Cowboys gambled big with Amari Cooper and the deadline cemented their loss

[Stash]

You're probably right. I also think they believed the offense would not be that much worse. I don't believe they anticipated the defense being this good.

I think they expected Lamb to be better than he has been as well. And very likely something out of third rounder Tolbert.

Not paying Gregory was probably the right choice. Or better yet, the correct end result.

A ‘choice’ made FOR THEM, not BY THEM. Kind of like the Paxton Lynch or Dak Prescott decision.

 

[Stash]

Weak(ISH), but held 6-3 Dolphins to a close 35-32.

I don’t think anyone could say “held to 35 points” with a straight face!

 

[Whirlwin]

I don’t think our win loss record would be any different with Amari..

Drop Mike

 

[Whirlwin]

I don’t think anyone could say “held to 35 points” with a straight face!

Moderator, congratulations.

 

[kramskoi]

You don't understand the value of the trade. The Browns were willing to pick up 100% of Amari's contract in exchange for only a 5th round pick. If anyone else had offered a much higher draft pick, the Cowboys would have had to eat much of Amari's current contract before a trade was finalized.

In any event, the release of Cooper was not really an "all-in" move. Twice before this has happened...where the receiving corp went backwards. After the release of Owens (remember Roy Williams?) and again after the release of Bryant (Cooper was brought in at mid-season).

Yes...they got rid of a tough contract but it may cost them a possible Superbowl. If OBJ is really looking for his final "home" then I'm not sure that Dallas is the place. It seems to me, after reading some reports, that a restructure of Coopers' contract was at least possible. My thinking is that if Jones wanted him back they would've found a way.

But make no mistake. The fact that they went after Cooks and now Beckham Jr. betrays their pre-season strategy as ill-advised at the very least. They've seen this show before...twice before.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don’t think anyone could say “held to 35 points” with a straight face!

Or a weak team scoring 32 pts for that matter

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We would've beaten Philthy.
Rush and Cooper had chemistry.
And we would've scored more than 3 points against TB.
Cooper had a huge game in TB the year before (13-137-2 TDs).

Amari doesn’t show up in big games so he would’ve been MIA against Philly. Buccaneers ran all over us so I guess Amari can stop the run to lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In any event, the release of Cooper was not really an "all-in" move. Twice before this has happened...where the receiving corp went backwards. After the release of Owens (remember Roy Williams?) and again after the release of Bryant (Cooper was brought in at mid-season).

Yes...they got rid of a tough contract but it may cost them a possible Superbowl. If OBJ is really looking for his final "home" then I'm not sure that Dallas is the place. It seems to me, after reading some reports, that a restructure of Coopers' contract was at least possible. My thinking is that if Jones wanted him back they would've found a way.

But make no mistake. The fact that they went after Cooks and now Beckham Jr. betrays their pre-season strategy as ill-advised at the very least. They've seen this show before...twice before.

Cooks is better than Coop and Odell will be cheaper than Coop. Also stops a contender from getting Odell as well.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I think they expected Lamb to be better than he has been as well. And very likely something out of third rounder Tolbert.



A ‘choice’ made FOR THEM, not BY THEM. Kind of like the Paxton Lynch or Dak Prescott decision.

Of course they expected Lamb to be better, you don't draft a supposed top 10 draft talent and not expect him to take over the WR1 position.

 

[Stash]

Or a weak team scoring 32 pts for that matter

The Bears running game is really good. Tops in the league I think. 29 points against us, right?

 

[Stash]

Of course they expected Lamb to be better, you don't draft a supposed top 10 draft talent and not expect him to take over the WR1 position.

I don’t know about you, but in my opinion, he’s not quite there yet.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

No, the Cowboys front office DID NOT screw up. Had they kept the "at times disappearing" Amari Cooper, they would still have to be paying him $20+ mil/season while not having enough salary cap room to resign Gallup, Brown, LVE and a few others. Cowboys weighed their options and made the correct move.

From that group, Brown would be the only one that stings. Just so happens that corner us the deepest position on the team. No need to resign Gallup and while LVE is putting together a pretty decent season, he's not difficult to replace.

We've lost two games this season due to pitiful offensive production, and it just so happens that we're two games back in the division and conference. Amari Cooper was the catalyst that put this offense over the top. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. "Good business" has limited one side of the ball of a team that is primed for a Super Bowl run. On field production and the fact that they tried to replace him at the deadline are your proof.

Your assumption that it's been proven that he forced a trade is nothing but heresy brought on by fan theories. The Jones crew let their emotions get involved and they made a very dumb move.

 

[Stash]

From that group, Brown would be the only one that stings. Just so happens that corner us the deepest position on the team. No need to resign Gallup and while LVE is putting together a pretty decent season, he's not difficult to replace.

We've lost two games this season due to pitiful offensive production, and it just so happens that we're two games back in the division and conference. Amari Cooper was the catalyst that put this offense over the top. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. "Good business" has limited one side of the ball of a team that is primed for a Super Bowl run. On field production and the fact that they tried to replace him at the deadline are your proof.

Your assumption that it's been proven that he forced a trade is nothing but heresy brought on by fan theories. The Jones crew let their emotions get involved and they made a very dumb move.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I don’t know about you, but in my opinion, he’s not quite there yet.

No he's not (for me it's a lack of concentration) and its probably best we find out now to decide on how best to move on once he approaches the end of the rookie contract.
Then again he'll approach 1,000 yards and as we know Dak/KM likes to use his lesser WR's and especially TE's.

 

[erod]

Amari couldn't give a crap about football.

This was a good subtraction.

 

[Stash]

No he's not (for me it's a lack of concentration) and its probably best we find out now to decide on how best to move on once he approaches the end of the rookie contract.
Then again he'll approach 1,000 yards and as we know Dak/KM likes to use his lesser WR's and especially TE's.

I’m with you. I’m not giving Lamb a big money contract as of now.

 

[xwalker]

The problem is that the “core group” didn’t remain intact. Looking at Amari Cooper’s 68 receptions for 865 yards across 15 games in 2021, where he had eight touchdowns and averaged 12.7 yards per reception, they would be baited by CeeDee Lamb’s 79 receptions for 1,102 yards across 16 games in that same season, where he scored six touchdowns and averaged 13.9 yards per reception.

While the production was equitable or better from Lamb in that same timeframe, the nearly $4.5 million he was due over the next two seasons compared to the $60 million or so that Cooper was due over the next three years became the biggest factor. Trading Cooper was the route they deemed most effective and efficient for their payroll.

The one they just let walk most recently went for 131 yards and a touchdown on five receptions against a heated in-state rival in the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football in a Halloween Showdown. Watching Cooper shine with another team makes this deal even more frustrating.

The Cowboys’ need for a WR at the deadline (and lack of getting one) proves they were wrong to let go of Amari Cooper so quickly

Nine weeks in and past the trade deadline, you can officially say the front office was wrong.

The reality here is that the gamble and the decision to get rid of Cooper for what they got in return was a bad one, and they’re paying for it now.

Here is the link for the full article:

https://thelandryhat.com/2022/11/11/cowboys-gamble-amari-cooper/

Wrong!

Team chemistry comes before individual players.

None of the great coaches tolerated a player calling out the coaches or other players in the media.

Jimmy, Belichick, Parcells...

Jimmy tolerated all sorts of off field antics as long as it didn't get to the media but he would never in the history of ever tolerate a player complaining publically.

Belichick immediately sent All Pro OG Logan Mankins packing when Mankins made one negative comment to the media.

Cooper
Complained to the media repeatedly.

Missed 2 games because he put himself in position to be exposed to Covid and it was captured on camera.

Had questionable effort in the playoff game.

 

[xwalker]

The problem is that the “core group” didn’t remain intact. Looking at Amari Cooper’s 68 receptions for 865 yards across 15 games in 2021, where he had eight touchdowns and averaged 12.7 yards per reception, they would be baited by CeeDee Lamb’s 79 receptions for 1,102 yards across 16 games in that same season, where he scored six touchdowns and averaged 13.9 yards per reception.

While the production was equitable or better from Lamb in that same timeframe, the nearly $4.5 million he was due over the next two seasons compared to the $60 million or so that Cooper was due over the next three years became the biggest factor. Trading Cooper was the route they deemed most effective and efficient for their payroll.

The one they just let walk most recently went for 131 yards and a touchdown on five receptions against a heated in-state rival in the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football in a Halloween Showdown. Watching Cooper shine with another team makes this deal even more frustrating.

The Cowboys’ need for a WR at the deadline (and lack of getting one) proves they were wrong to let go of Amari Cooper so quickly

Nine weeks in and past the trade deadline, you can officially say the front office was wrong.

The reality here is that the gamble and the decision to get rid of Cooper for what they got in return was a bad one, and they’re paying for it now.

Here is the link for the full article:

https://thelandryhat.com/2022/11/11/cowboys-gamble-amari-cooper/

The fact that the Cowboys received minimal in return for Cooper shows that other teams did not place a high value on him.

Other teams would not bypass a great player for a mid round pick just to screw over the Cowboys.

The idea that the Cowboys got less in the trade because other teams knew they were dumping him is silly. That would mean the other teams were content to let Cleveland take a "great" player for a 6th round pick.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The fact that the Cowboys received minimal in return for Cooper shows that other teams did not place a high value on him.

Other teams would not bypass a great player for a mid round pick just to screw over the Cowboys.

The idea that the Cowboys got less in the trade because other teams knew they were dumping him is silly. That would mean the other teams were content to let Cleveland take a "great" player for a 6th round pick.

Jerry blew the trade, that part is undeniable. And certainly him telling everyone they would cut cooper was a big part of them getting very little. Are you going to pay big for a guy you know the team doenst want?

 

[Hennessy_King]

The problem is that the “core group” didn’t remain intact. Looking at Amari Cooper’s 68 receptions for 865 yards across 15 games in 2021, where he had eight touchdowns and averaged 12.7 yards per reception, they would be baited by CeeDee Lamb’s 79 receptions for 1,102 yards across 16 games in that same season, where he scored six touchdowns and averaged 13.9 yards per reception.

While the production was equitable or better from Lamb in that same timeframe, the nearly $4.5 million he was due over the next two seasons compared to the $60 million or so that Cooper was due over the next three years became the biggest factor. Trading Cooper was the route they deemed most effective and efficient for their payroll.

The one they just let walk most recently went for 131 yards and a touchdown on five receptions against a heated in-state rival in the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football in a Halloween Showdown. Watching Cooper shine with another team makes this deal even more frustrating.

The Cowboys’ need for a WR at the deadline (and lack of getting one) proves they were wrong to let go of Amari Cooper so quickly

Nine weeks in and past the trade deadline, you can officially say the front office was wrong.

The reality here is that the gamble and the decision to get rid of Cooper for what they got in return was a bad one, and they’re paying for it now.

Here is the link for the full article:

https://thelandryhat.com/2022/11/11/cowboys-gamble-amari-cooper/

They should have kept amari and let one legged gallup walk. Y ppl compare ceedee to amari is so dumb.