Cowboys only 1 seed of the past ten to not make the Super Bowl

[Tass]

Eagles hosted 2017 Draft. Eagles going to the Super Bowl. Cowboys host 2018 Draft. Cowboys going to __________?

Waffle House.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I don't know, losing to one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL ain't so embarrassing. Losing to a one-legged great was a little more embarrassing but hey I've had 3 seasons to get over that one The Iggles will find out what it's like to lose to a great QB. I suppose it's better to have played and lost than never to have played at all. Or is it? Maybe that's what sets us aside from Eagle fans, they haven't won nothin, we have. We expect more, they're happy to be in the show. Trust me, to be there and lose (I remember those more) is far lower and longer than the high of winning. I like winning, I like not losing more

 

[Idgit]

The situation does prove that with the right coaching hires, large improvements can be made quickly.

Pretty much the only defense people have for Garrett is that it’s best for the team to have continuity.

The eagles situation, disproves that.

This is a personnel league, not a coaching league. The Eagles improved because they dramatically improved their personnel.

 

[northerncowboynation]

This is a personnel league, not a coaching league. The Eagles improved because they dramatically improved their personnel.

Nonsense, it's great coach league. Personell, meh, who needs personell. Probably the 31 losing teams but what do I know

 

[Silver N Blue]

At least they are first at something...

 

[cowboyblue22]

Of course you want to call it self loathing.

It's just a pretty simple fact at this point, relative to any discussion about the Cowboys. The Eagles (and to a lesser extent, the Vikings if they had won) overcame key personnel issues to make the SB. The same type of key personnel losses that we have been told by people, including yourself, that make it unfair to properly judge Garrett.

The best part about your post is your last melodramatic line, "Rather than reactively blowing things up and starting over." It's funny in this context because we are talking about an Eagles team that had cap problems and a head coach who when fired two years ago, had stripped the team of key top level talents, and yet two years later, with a new coach, they are in the SB despite other challenges.

Blow it up and start over, indeed.

with the cap and if you get a coach and front office that knows what theyare doing the league is made up so that things like this happen there are quick turn arounds

 

[Sydla]

This is a personnel league, not a coaching league. The Eagles improved because they dramatically improved their personnel.

This is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact the Eagles just made the SB with at least 3 of their most important players out. They had Nick Foles at QB and their coaching schemed up great game plans to make the SBs.

Trying to argue they made the SB because they just had really great personnel and not an exception game plan and coaching job is bizarre, but expected from those who continue to believe Garrett is good enough to match what Pederson is doing.

 

[Idgit]

Blowing up is a tear down the roster, a tanking, where you rip apart the roster and essentially start over with personnel, etc.

The Eagles didn't do that. They didn't blow anything up. Their OL is basically guys they already had. Their DL, other than Jernigan, were guys already on the team. Their two strengths, their lines, were mostly holdovers.

On the DL you’re forgetting Chris Long, who caused the errant throw on the pick 6 that changed the conference championship game. And Derek Barnett, who had the strip sack on the next series.

On offense, there was Blount, who scored maybe the game determining TD, Ajayi, Jeffries, T Smith, oh, and Foles.

Like I said, they did a great job putting the roster together. It’s personnel.

 

[northerncowboynation]

This is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact the Eagles just made the SB with at least 3 of their most important players out. They had Nick Foles at QB and their coaching schemed up great game plans to make the SBs.

Trying to argue they made the SB because they just had really great personnel and not an exception game plan and coaching job is bizarre, but expected from those who continue to believe Garrett is good enough to match what Pederson is doing.

So tell me something Sid, would you be happy going to the show and losing because that's what's gonna happen to the Igs. I suppose Eagles fans will dream afterwards "if we only had Wentz"

 

[Idgit]

This is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact the Eagles just made the SB with at least 3 of their most important players out. They had Nick Foles at QB and their coaching schemed up great game plans to make the SBs.

Trying to argue they made the SB because they just had really great personnel and no real coaching is hilarious, but expected from those who continue to believe Garrett is good enough to match what Pederson is doing.

I didn’t say they had no real coaching. I think they have good coaching. But it’s a personnel league and always has been, and we’re an organization that’s struggled under Jerry to assemble and retain personnel. It’s the name of the game, and you’re fooling yourself if you really believe otherwise.

And I 100% believe our staff was good enough to match what the Eagles staff did.

 

[Sydla]

On the DL you’re forgetting Chris Long, who caused the errant throw on the pick 6 that changed the conference championship game. And Derek Barnett, who had the strip sack on the next series.

On offense, there was Blount, who scored maybe the game determining TD, Ajayi, Jeffries, T Smith, oh, and Foles.

Like I said, they did a great job putting the roster together. It’s personnel.

Chris Long is a backup............ their core players - Graham, Curry, Cox - were already on the team. Same with the OL - Peters, Johnson, Kelce.

Your attempts to minimize the job done by that coaching staff, especially in light of serious injury issues, is bizarre but expected.

 

[Sydla]

I didn’t say they had no real coaching. I think they have good coaching. But it’s a personnel league and always has been, and we’re an organization that’s struggled under Jerry to assemble and retain personnel. It’s the name of the game, and you’re fooling yourself if you really believe otherwise.

And I 100% believe our staff was good enough to match what the Eagles staff did.

Of course you do, you actually think Garrett is one of the better coaches in the league. Further, we've seen what happens when this team loses a key player. For you to argue that this coaching staff would have overcome the loss Wentz and Peters and Hicks is wishful thinking, largely because, we've seen that this team falls apart even after just one significant injury.

 

[robbieruff]

And the hits just keep on coming!?!

 

[mahoneybill]

Coaching is proven year in and out by the job Belicheck does. Also having a line that excels at pass blocking is , at least to me, a key to their success. Brady given 2-3 seconds combined with the routes the WR's , backs run usually finds him with an open target and a clean pocket.


Also throw in a defense that doesn't have real sack monsters, but knows how to limit stuff when it counts

 

[Sydla]

So tell me something Sid, would you be happy going to the show and losing because that's what's gonna happen to the Igs. I suppose Eagles fans will dream afterwards "if we only had Wentz"

Are you asking if it's better to make the SB and lose than not make the playoffs at all?

Yes, its better to make the SB and lose than do what we do and have done for 20 years.

 

[robbieruff]

Tonight was rough for Garrett supporters.

Every Garrett excuse was made laughable tonight.

Can’t win without your best player. Whoops.

Can’t win without your LT. Whoops.

Can’t win without your best LB. Whoops.

Takes time to properly build a legit SB contender. Whoops.

That last one should’ve been a “whoopsie” to add the capper. And yes, very damning, especially for those of us who counted the Eagles out once Wentz went down.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So tell me something Sid, would you be happy going to the show and losing because that's what's gonna happen to the Igs. I suppose Eagles fans will dream afterwards "if we only had Wentz"

I would. Anything is better than mediocrity. Can't win unless you're there. I heard the same thing in 2007. The Cowboys were never going to beat the Pats in the SB anyway. And then I sat back and watched the Giants beat them.

 

[Jipper]

ok...so what? Does misery love company here? The eagles or the patriots, both two teams that most cowboys fans hate vehemently, will win a superbowl this year....either our arch rival gets their first or the patriots become the second team to 6 and pass us...

either way we have no good outcome, and are at home watching, and waiting for the draft....why try and rub salt in an already gapping wound?

 

[HungryLion]

This is a personnel league, not a coaching league. The Eagles improved because they dramatically improved their personnel.

Disagree.

It is both.

Of course you need good talent. But coaching makes a huge difference as well.

 

[Idgit]

Of course you do, you actually think Garrett is one of the better coaches in the league. Further, we've seen what happens when this team loses a key player. For you to argue that this coaching staff would have overcome the loss Wentz and Peters and Hicks is wishful thinking, largely because, we've seen that this team falls apart even after just one significant injury.

You don't have to keep saying 'of course I do' to everything I've typed in the prior post. We can take it as a given that anything I type is my opinion. In return, I won't start each of my replies to you with 'of course you don't.' We can save precious forum space this way.

There's no way to compare what this staff would have done with the Eagles personnel, so it's a moot point. I'll point out that we're one single season removed from going 13-3 with our own third string QB who didn't even get most of the reps in training camp, so my argument that our staff is capable of preparing a team adequately given the personnel isn't exactly far-fetched.