CFZ Cowboys over hyped

[ActualCowboysFan]

I'm actually not all that optimistic.

Hope I'm wrong, but the hype after an impressive season combined with OL concerns are eerily reminiscent of 2010.

I'm not convinced we're better than last year. But we'll see!

You could’ve said the same last year but there’s much fewer OL concerns this season. Last year Tyron was already down with most people saying he’d never play again, Tyler Smith was a huge reach who was going to be worthless trash, Biadasz was trash and Steele was a huge question mark. They won 12 games without their starting OL playing a single game together. This year seems much more optimistic on the OL to me.

 

[CowboysFilmStudy]

Cmon, you have to be realistic. This is the FIRST year in a long time I have thought we were legitimate contenders going into the season.

I get wanting to be a realist. On the other hand, as a fan of the team my hopes are always high this time of year. Ask me again in week 8 lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There’s always a chance . And arguably a very reasonable chance . And if they do it definitely elevates their opportunity.

But not many are picking them to win division which places them needing to win 3 playoff games on the road . Which I’d argue is a much more difficult task.

That’s more so about Philly winning it last year. It’s not like they ran away with it the Cowboys were right there with Dak missing games.

 

[CowboysDrew]

Who gives a tenth of a carp where the Cowboys are "picked".

No matter what we as fans feel or are hyped or not it won't matter one red lilly whit on the field.

The team will do what they do, based on their skill, the coaches ability and nothing else. We fans have not a bit to do other than to be excited for them and cheer for them. Werther we piss on them or root for them will make almost not one iota if difference on the field.

So I choose to actually be a fan of the team I grew up with and not worry about it. I hope the moves they made work, I hope they'll be different. And no mater what I CAN NOT CHANGE A THING.

We can't fire Jerry. We can't cut Dak. We can't trade a washed up player for five first round picks.

If we're not along for the ride it won't matter. If we are it won't make a difference if we fail again.

So I'm just going to try to enjoy football season. I'm optimistic and if I'm wrong, so what.

When the Rams beat the pants off the Cowboys in the Divisional a few years ago I was so ticked I was red in the face till my Dad called me and said he was dying of stage four cancer, he lasted about eight months after. He didn't make it. It made me really realize this is entertainment and not something we should put more personal stakes in beyond that.

I'm going to enjoy the ride. I'll get ticked if they lose, I'll be happy if they win, and I'm totally fine with there being a "next year". If that makes me a loser then so be it. I've been called worse.

 

[MyFairLady]

What this team did 20 years ago with Quincy Carter is irrelevant. What they did 10 years ago with Romo is irrelevant. What they did 7 years ago with Dak is irrelevant.

You sound like a spokesperson for the Jones dictatorship. How can you ignore the moronic actions of our past. Nothing has changed. The talk from the dictatorship is worthless. They mean nothing. We promise to change our ways sure whatever. We promise to figure things out sure whatever. Just because the teams we build fail each and every year is no reason to think this team will fail sure whatever.

FWIW this team is built almost exactly the same as every other team the clown show has put together. Very top heavy roster with unproven "stars" (Dak). Aging players on high end deals who are injury prone (Tyron). Tons of dead money (Zeke, Collins). Defensive leaders who have proven to be much more concerned about themselves and their contracts than the team (D Flaw, Diggs).

We have a slight injection of quality youth that is hard carrying (Parsons, Lamb) but he can only do so much.

I expect a good regular season. I expect us to beat weak teams. I expect Dak to put up gaudy stats. I expect injuries to surface. I expect us to bow out of the playoffs against a quality team. Honestly not sure why anyone would expect anything else.

 

[Deionindahood]

What does 27 years ago have to do with today?

It's called a pattern. You figure out the rest. I gave you a hint, his name is Jerry.

 

[Diehardblues]

While I agree with most of what you said, I must add:

1)We are ALWAYS overhyped. Goes with the territory. America’s Team!
2)We’ve been 12-5 the last two years, and have actually improved the team. Why NOT be optimistic?
3)Several respected names, including Jim Nantz, expect big things this year.
4)This is the time of year for hope. Do you hear anyone saying “boy, we’re going to suck this year”?

I tend to take more realistic viewpoints based on current trends and recent history. My intention here isn’t to shoot down hopes or excitement for the season but only the SB Hype. Not sure why we need to buy in to be on the edge of our seats ?

I do agree this is a time for renewed hope as preseason and training camp always are. And I mentioned our last couple years provides us some mojo heading into this season. But the disappointing endings also provides us cause for pause in the hype .

I believe we are a top 5 team in NFC which means a playoff team but if we don’t win division then we will be facing 3 playoff games on the road to reach SB and why I said if we can win division our opportunity elevates . Why wouldn’t we wait until season begins to play out before more Hype?

 

[Diehardblues]

That’s more so about Philly winning it last year. It’s not like they ran away with it the Cowboys were right there with Dak missing games.

Well if we recall correctly they were running away with it until Hurts went down and had to bring him back to close it out.

The bigger point is how can we be SB bound if we can’t win our division. That’s what I have an issue with. And why I added if we can win our division then it elevates our opportunity as we wouldn’t have to win 3 playoff games on the road .

And why if we can’t be picked to win our division I’m not sure how we can be hyped to reach the SB. And why I’m shooting down the SB hype until further evidence as the season plays out.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's called a pattern. You figure out the rest. I gave you a hint, his name is Jerry.

It’s a funk that hangs over our franchise . It’s why despite a renewed hope with our first consecutive 12 win seasons and playoff appearances this era we still have pause until we can finally knock this huge monkey off our backs which will eventually happen at some point . It’s just a matter if it is sooner rather than later.

 

[foofighters]

Here we are again heading into the season with the Cowboys predicted by too many fans to be a SB contender without any recent playoff success.

If we aren’t even picked to win our division then we’d have to win 3 playoff games on the road .

I understand our defense should be better and we are revamping our offense but our new offensive scheme is totally unproven . And I understand the NFC appears down with most of the better QB’s and teams in AFC.

But why would we propel ourselves ahead other more proven teams and QB’s in the NFC like Phil and SF. Both with more recent playoff success , NFC championship & SB appearances .

Even with departure of Brady and Rodgers from NFC which appears to take those two teams from contention there is still 2 other QB’s in NFC with playoff success and SB appearances which I’ll be watching to see if their teams have turned around . One is considered by many to be one of the teams to watch for this year.

But until we can take the next step in the playoffs kicking down the huge monkey on our backs along with our QB’s back then I’d argue we are still more SB Pretenders than Contenders until further evidence.

This doesn’t mean we can’t have some positive mojo heading into this season. We have had two consecutive 12 win seasons and finally won a road playoff game but IMO it’s not enough for the SB Hype .

I’m looking forward to see how this team develops offensively and defensively. Can we win our division . If we can then our chances increase if we can get a playoff game or two at home. At that time then we can begin setting higher expectations . I’m not sure why some fans need to have this hype surrounding our team to get excited about the season.

I am sure some here would probably jump all over me and say that I am not a true fan but I haven't really paid attention to much since the season ended. I read topics here throughout the offseason to stay mildly in the know. But really, I don't care about all the mundane stuff in the offseason where a lot of it is sure to change once the season starts. Even during the season, I do not watch anything sports related other than games. It sucks that Sports Clips gives me my best hair cut because those 30 minutes of enduring day time bspn talk show stuff makes me want to yank my hair out. I don't care what the media thinks and fans are fans. They are going to overly love their team and others will overly hate their team. I just enjoy watching the games and from time to time, I pop in here to see what's going on from Mon-Sat because this place seems to be the best place to get news. Plus I don't have to see SAS or skippy to find out the day to day stuff and that's a win.

 

[Diehardblues]

Who gives a tenth of a carp where the Cowboys are "picked".

No matter what we as fans feel or are hyped or not it won't matter one red lilly whit on the field.

The team will do what they do, based on their skill, the coaches ability and nothing else. We fans have not a bit to do other than to be excited for them and cheer for them. Werther we piss on them or root for them will make almost not one iota if difference on the field.

So I choose to actually be a fan of the team I grew up with and not worry about it. I hope the moves they made work, I hope they'll be different. And no mater what I CAN NOT CHANGE A THING.

We can't fire Jerry. We can't cut Dak. We can't trade a washed up player for five first round picks.

If we're not along for the ride it won't matter. If we are it won't make a difference if we fail again.

So I'm just going to try to enjoy football season. I'm optimistic and if I'm wrong, so what.

When the Rams beat the pants off the Cowboys in the Divisional a few years ago I was so ticked I was red in the face till my Dad called me and said he was dying of stage four cancer, he lasted about eight months after. He didn't make it. It made me really realize this is entertainment and not something we should put more personal stakes in beyond that.

I'm going to enjoy the ride. I'll get ticked if they lose, I'll be happy if they win, and I'm totally fine with there being a "next year". If that makes me a loser then so be it. I've been called worse.

Understood . I’m just providing a different viewpoint and approach. We all have to approach what best fits our own mantras.

And I can get excited and wide eyed about the season without the SB Hype. Just knowing we are a legit playoff contender is enough to remain on the edge of my seats hoping the season falls into place for higher aspirations .

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's called a pattern. You figure out the rest. I gave you a hint, his name is Jerry.

This is silly. So Jets have no shot because of their history?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well if we recall correctly they were running away with it until Hurts went down and had to bring him back to close it out.

The bigger point is how can we be SB bound if we can’t win our division. That’s what I have an issue with. And why I added if we can win our division then it elevates our opportunity as we wouldn’t have to win 3 playoff games on the road .

And why if we can’t be picked to win our division I’m not sure how we can be hyped to reach the SB. And why I’m shooting down the SB hype until further evidence as the season plays out.

I don’t know why you’re assuming we can’t win our division?

And the division went down to the end…..can’t use the injury excuse because We lost Dak for 5 games….

 

[Diehardblues]

This is silly. So Jets have no shot because of their history?

I wouldn’t say no shot . But their recent history and trends would be working against them.

I’d give them more of a shot than usual because of the big off season signings they had. Adding HOFamer Rodgers to an already good defense definitely elevates their opportunities.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don’t know why you’re assuming we can’t win our division?

And the division went down to the end…..can’t use the injury excuse because We lost Dak for 5 games….

You said it was close to the end. I’m providing it wasn’t until Hurts went down . We didn’t fold when Dak went down. Egirls did when Hurts went down losing both games which made it closer.

I’m not assuming we can’t win division. Im just saying it doesn’t add up to me that some of the same hyping us a SB contender aren’t picking us to win division. And if we aren’t being picked to win division I’m just saying it makes our road to SB much more difficult .

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I wouldn’t say no shot . But their recent history and trends would be working against them.

I’d give them more of a shot than usual because of the big off season signings they had. Adding HOFamer Rodgers to an already good defense definitely elevates their opportunities.

Rodgers has had better teams and has failed but he’s in a deeper division and now he has a better chance? I don’t know about this one lol.

 

[Diehardblues]

Rodgers has had better teams and has failed but he’s in a deeper division and now he has a better chance? I don’t know about this one lol.

I didn’t say that . Focus on what I say not how you read into it. I said the Jets have a better shot than they did before he arrived.

 

[GMO415]

I like our chances. The iggles are not a given. People expect them to return, but they are not a dynasty. Between losing talent, the injury bug, first place schedule, and the fact that everyone plays them as if it's their SB game, the iggles will barely make the playoffs.

 

[MyFairLady]

I don’t know why you’re assuming we can’t win our division?

And the division went down to the end…..can’t use the injury excuse because We lost Dak for 5 games….

Just going by memory but didn't we win 4 of those games?

 

[Miller]

Weird stat I heard on the Ticket this morning....the last place team has won the division 6 of the last 11 years. I'd watch the Commanders