Cowboys rookie RB Ezekiel Elliott under investigation as woman moves forward with domestic violence

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Are you saying that Zeke shouldn't go around sleeping with strange? Because I think that lecture should be used on Cromartie before anyone. Zeke hasn't even done anything and you blaming him for sleeping with 1 wrong woman in his life? Guess you must have found the love of your life very fast then. lol if so kudos to you.

Yeah seems like he thinks Zeke should be a virgin

 

[AsthmaField]

I hadn't heard that one. I like it.

Haha, It is a good one. I like it too.

 

[DandyDon52]

Yes, definitely. If she is lying then she should be held accountable as well. And I agree they should really come down on her hard because this does hurt the real victims of DV.

Well they need to make a law specifically to deal with this type of claim or accusation.
To deal with any that knowingly file a fake charge.

There are slander laws? and Filing false police report?
And if she was to talk to a grand jury it would be perjury.

but it would have to be proven that they filed something fake.

 

[tyke1doe]

Are you saying that Zeke shouldn't go around sleeping with strange? Because I think that lecture should be used on Cromartie before anyone. Zeke hasn't even done anything and you blaming him for sleeping with 1 wrong woman in his life? Guess you must have found the love of your life very fast then. lol if so kudos to you.

Principles of life don't just apply to one person; they apply to all. So, what I'm saying applies to Cromartie as well as Zeke.

Second, you're focused on the issue of right/wrong. I'm focusing on the issues of dynamics and consequences. When you sleep with a woman for any reason, there is an expectation on both the woman's and the man's part. Hence the consequences of such an intimate relationship. I hear men say of women after having sex with them, "She's too clingy." Well, DUH!

That's a dynamic of intimacy, especially for a woman. She's likely to want MORE regardless what she says.
And depending upon the woman, the woman's background, the woman's motives, the woman's education, the woman's esteem issues, etc., you get a wide range of reactions and consequences.

Oh, and for the record, finding the love of your life isn't a matter of marrying the woman who is best in bed. Surely, you don't believe THAT do you?

 

[tyke1doe]

Why is the one picture of her hand showing abrasions on her knuckles?

Been decades since I last had a fight, but I seem to recall those com,e from punching someone.

Or something.

Yep. You don't get bruises on your knuckles by someone hitting you.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah seems like he thinks Zeke should be a virgin

What I think is not important. The principles I've outlined are, particularly if you want to avoid certain dynamics/consequences.

Continue to read my posts here, and you'll have a better understanding of my point.

 

[CyberB0b]

Why is the one picture of her hand showing abrasions on her knuckles?

Been decades since I last had a fight, but I seem to recall those com,e from punching someone.

Or something.

Ever heard of something called defensive wounds?

Defense wounds of this kind are seen in blunt force attacks when the victim attempts to ward off kicks, blows of the fist, or blunt instruments. Their location is similar to defense wounds from knife attacks (hands, forearms or, less frequently, the legs). Injuries inflicted to the thighs possibly result from attempts to shield the genitals against blows or kicks aimed at the lower part of the body.
The injuries most often seen are abrasions and contusions (with concomitant bruising) on the back of the hands, wrists and forearms (Fig. 7). Though abrasions and bruises are the most common defense injuries due to blunt force, additional lacerations may occur in skin regions supported by bone (for example the metacarpal region and the knuckles). Lacerations from a blunt instrument possibly contain embedded foreign material indicative of the weapon used. Defense injuries inflicted together with wounds in the regions the victim wanted to protect with his hands and arms show the same stage of healing on later inspection.
In rare cases the victim may sustain fractures of the hand bones. Another classical fracture site is the ulnar shaft, which is exposed in victims parrying a blow or kick with their raised forearm. Depending on the site of the causal impact these fractures usually occur at the transition from the proximal to the middle third or in the middle third of the ulna.

 

[plymkr]

Well they need to make a law specifically to deal with this type of claim or accusation.
To deal with any that knowingly file a fake charge.

There are slander laws? and Filing false police report?
And if she was to talk to a grand jury it would be perjury.

but it would have to be proven that they filed something fake.

EE could also sue her for defamation of character. I agree filing a false accusation should be a felony just the same as perjury. Something to keep people from filing false claims that's more than a slap on the wrist.

 

[TRUTH87]

i think zeke will be fine. but man im tired of all this extra crap around the team. zeke...dak...mcclain..hardy...dlaw..gregory... cant forget randle.

jesus.

 

[DandyDon52]

EE could also sue her for defamation of character. I agree filing a false accusation should be a felony just the same as perjury. Something to keep people from filing false claims that's more than a slap on the wrist.

Well the reason I said they need a specific law, is that there could be a person with a legit claim, but not much proof.
So they might then be afraid of not being able to prove it.
For a person with no resources, filing a complaint against say a millionaire, they could be easily made to look like it was not legit.

 

[phildadon86]

Principles of life don't just apply to one person; they apply to all. So, what I'm saying applies to Cromartie as well as Zeke.

Second, you're focused on the issue of right/wrong. I'm focusing on the issues of dynamics and consequences. When you sleep with a woman for any reason, there is an expectation on both the woman's and the man's part. Hence the consequences of such an intimate relationship. I hear men say of women after having sex with them, "She's too clingy." Well, DUH!

That's a dynamic of intimacy, especially for a woman. She's likely to want MORE regardless what she says.
And depending upon the woman, the woman's background, the woman's motives, the woman's education, the woman's esteem issues, etc., you get a wide range of reactions and consequences.

Oh, and for the record, finding the love of your life isn't a matter of marrying the woman who is best in bed. Surely, you don't believe THAT do you?

You mean the best lay isnt the most logical woman to marry? ******, no wonder Im not married yet haha. I understand what you are trying to say, but at the end of the day, if you are up front with a woman from the get go, and she does this, shes in the wrong, if you make promises and all of that to get her into bed, well then, you reap what you sew. Just my opinion.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Ever heard of something called defensive wounds?

Yes. I have heard of it. And reading your article it states the abrasions are on the back of the hands. The knuckles would appear to be an unlikely place. But even then it could happen.

But four busted knuckles along the hitting surface of that portion of the hand is curious. Like most here, I'd suggest, I've had my arse beat by a bigger guy in a fight. Got defensive wounds on the backs of my hands and forearms. Had busted knuckles as well. They came from the initial punch I threw before I enacted any one many of Mike Tyson's opponents.

Now I don't know what happened. It surely could have happened as she said. I am not making excuses for him. Because some of those bruises were from being grabbed roughly.

But having said that, after almost two decades of running nightclubs back in my life, I have seen a woman haul off and break a guy's nose throwing the first punch. So I pose this question.

At what point does an aggressive and angry woman, throwing punches, become a combatant, and grabbing her arms becomes a defensive move?

If he is guilty, he needs to be seated for a while and appreciate his position. Learn to not beat on women. There are many lessons he will need to know and his punishment will be justified. Football is a game of aggression, and even the most soft spoken of the pros has the capacity to ramp up a ferocious demeanor and attack. Especially against a much smaller foe.

But you can bet that Rhonda Rousey is not the only female on this planet that could whip half of this message board.

Let's see what the evidence says.

 

[Plankton]

It's both, depending on what part of the country you're in. Likely several other versions as well.

This all reminds me of a story about Jimmy Johnson.

In 1967, Johnson was brought on as a grad assistant at Clemson. He was hired over the phone by Frank Howard, but never met him in person.

Johnson arrived at the Clemson campus, got in a workout, and then went to the locker room to shower. While he was showering, Howard came into the shower to take one himself. Johnson thought nothing of it, and continued to wash up. Next thing he knows, he feels something on his leg. Howard actually starting peeing on Johnson's leg. He then said, "Hi, I'm Frank Howard. You must be the new GA."

Johnson stayed there about a month, before he was offered a paid assistant position under Larry Lacewell (the DC) at Wichita State.

 

[tyke1doe]

You mean the best lay isnt the most logical woman to marry? ******, no wonder Im not married yet haha. I understand what you are trying to say, but at the end of the day, if you are up front with a woman from the get go, and she does this, shes in the wrong, if you make promises and all of that to get her into bed, well then, you reap what you sew. Just my opinion.

Fair enough.

 

[Jarv]

Yep. You don't get bruises on your knuckles by someone hitting you.

Unless you lead with your chin.

 

[Nightman]

Ever heard of something called defensive wounds?

The bruises were supposedly from a videotaped fight SHE had with another girl and just like the Hardy pictures the bruises didn't appear in places that are typically injured in a beating....instead they were consistent with injuries from being restrained and from falling and flailing around

 

[DeaconBlues]

But you can bet that Rhonda Rousey is not the only female on this planet that could whip half of this message board.

Only half????

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What I think is not important. The principles I've outlined are, particularly if you want to avoid certain dynamics/consequences.

Continue to read my posts here, and you'll have a better understanding of my point.

your points seem to be quite uptight sexually

 

[mattjames2010]

your points seem to be quite uptight sexually

I guess some people have never heard of a mutual hookups before....

I'm 26, so it wasn't all that long ago that I went through that period in my life. Have I told women they were "clingy"? Yeah, I have. You know, after telling them time and time again I was NOT looking for a relationship.

Sex is not an invitation to impede on someone's personal life or an automatic admission you are looking for more than just intercourse. Surprised people still struggle with this, aren't we in the current year?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I guess some people have never heard of a mutual hookups before....

I'm 26, so it wasn't all that long ago that I went through that period in my life. Have I told women they were "clingy"? Yeah, I have. You know, after telling them time and time again I was NOT looking for a relationship.

Sex is not an invitation to impede on someone's personal life or an automatic admission you are looking for more than just intercourse. Surprised people still struggle with this, aren't we in the current year?

Tinder wouldn't exist if not for the hookup culture we now have