Cowboys rumored to not inform Mike McCarthy before making the trade for Trey Lance

[Kwyn]

The problem with this, is Jerry’s interview, if I remember correctly, said he wasn’t. He must be referring to the draft evaluation, meaning he’s trying not to look bad.

What makes you say that! Because Rockport said it?

Last time he checked he has the same access as us.

None.

 

[Shane612]

Mike McCarthy didn't sound so giddy right before Saturday's game against the Raiders. He was totally caught off guard.

He's had time to think about it since then. And publicly, he probably doesn't want to show his excitement, lest Dak would pout, and not play well.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I dont care what a media flunky scared to lose access to the team nor a whipped emasculated head coach has to say. The head coach shouldn't find out on Twitter.

Lance is not going to play this season unless the Cowboys are out of the playoffs which is highly unlikely. I doubt McCarthy could care any less.

 

[ShortRound]

Guess it’s smart to remove MM when he’s the OC working with Dak.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Give me a break Risen. Were you in the room?

Why are you always stirring up mess? For likes?

Why question him if @Risen Star is absolutely right?

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

How pathetic is it that our own HC is barely involved in any team operations? He’s basically a teenage girl team manager on a high school team.

Whatever. Every year it’s some other crazy spiel. You don’t hear this kind of stuff happening to other teams besides the bottom of the barrel teams like the Commanders

 

[America's Cowboy]

I hate Jerry as much as the next guy, but honestly who cares, Jerry traded for a top five draft pick QB to replace Grier. Grier was never starting here. Neither Lance or Grier were playing this year.

Since when do GMs need to address the entire team before they make moves?

“Hey Dak is okay we trade for a QB? If you say no, we won’t do it out of respect for the zero Super Bowls we’ve gone to since 2016.”

Making excuses.

This has nothing to do with Dak. It's everything to do with Mike McCarthy. I guarantee you this wouldn't have flown or been accepted by Jimmy or Parcells.

 

[America's Cowboy]

How pathetic is it that our own HC is barely involved in any team operations? He’s basically a teenage girl team manager on a high school team.

Whatever. Every year it’s some other crazy spiel. You don’t hear this kind of stuff happening to other teams besides the bottom of the barrel teams like the Commanders

Yup. It doesn't look good.

Jerry doing Jerry things.

 

[pansophy]

He was involved. He said it clearly. He gave is input and then Jerry makes the final decision and works out the deal.

Not tough stuff.

He was involved in the evaluation, which means the draft evaluation 2 seasons ago. I still don't have an issue with it. They have gone on record as saying they should be in the business of developing QBs -- Mike has said that, not just Jerry -- and Jerry clearly said he didn't want to give SF a chance to get off the phone without a deal being made.

Jerry is correct on this -- if you want the deal, get it done before they have a chance to talk to anyone else. No time to talk to everybody beforehand, and as implied before they haven't talked about wanting QB talent philosophically for a while and they knew Mike's opinion of Trey from his draft eval.

People always seem to want to make things into some kind keeping up with Kardashians drama, but it's pretty straightforward. You get an unexpected call from someone wanting to trade a 1st round QB for a 4th round pick -- you get the deal done right then and there.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Making excuses.

This has nothing to do with Dak. It's everything to do with Mike McCarthy. I guarantee you this wouldn't have flown or been accepted by Jimmy or Parcells.

Dude he replaced Grier. I just don’t see how this is a big deal.

If Daks or Mikes ego is shook up about Grier getting cut for Lance, we got bigger issues than we thought.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I dont care what a media flunky scared to lose access to the team nor a whipped emasculated head coach has to say. The head coach shouldn't find out on Twitter.

Horrible image to portray to the world.

 

[TheDuke]

How pathetic is it that our own HC is barely involved in any team operations? He’s basically a teenage girl team manager on a high school team.

Whatever. Every year it’s some other crazy spiel. You don’t hear this kind of stuff happening to other teams besides the bottom of the barrel teams like the Commanders

People relate things to what is on their intelligence level. You relate to teenage girl high school drama.

 

[pansophy]

Horrible image to portray to the world.

Dude he replaced Grier. I just don’t see how this is a big deal.

If Daks or Mikes ego is shook up about Grier getting cut for Lance, we got bigger issues than we thought.

Can you imagine if it came out that Trey got traded somewhere else because Jerry had to get off the phone to "talk to everyone" to make sure their feelings were okay to replace the 3rd string QB? Like you mean they haven't talked through these scenarios beforehand so that if you get an unexpected call you can make the deal without risking it by having to get off the phone and talk it out.

People who are upset about this aren't thinking about real life and are trying to find drama.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dude he replaced Grier. I just don’t see how this is a big deal.

If Daks or Mikes ego is shook up about Grier getting cut for Lance, we got bigger issues than we thought.

Understood and agreed, but...

Did you see how good Grier looked Saturday night? I mean, keep your head coach informed and give him the opportunity to decide which players are best fit to help his team right now and next year in case an emergency comes up, don't you think?

 

[khiladi]

What makes you say that! Because Rockport said it?

Last time he checked he has the same access as us.

None.

No, as I said, the Jerry interview, if I remember correctly, he stated it explicitly that he didn’t consult MM or Dak. But he did state they looked at him in the draft and liked and basically wanted him. If Mike is being honest about evaluating him and Jerry, if my recollection of the interview is correct, is as well, that’s the only logical possibility. Otherwise, one of them is lying.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

The coach should have reign over their roster and the gm/owner should bud out. You think Jerry made any trades without Jimmy's approval. I miss having a coach with some actual balls and not a Jerry puppet running the show.

 

[khiladi]

I hate Jerry as much as the next guy, but honestly who cares, Jerry traded for a top five draft pick QB to replace Grier. Grier was never starting here. Neither Lance or Grier were playing this year.

Since when do GMs need to address the entire team before they make moves?

“Hey Dak is okay we trade for a QB? If you say no, we won’t do it out of respect for the zero Super Bowls we’ve gone to since 2016.”

Jerry himself in the interview when they traded for him, they don’t consult players about moves. If they do it, it’s rarely if ever.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Can you imagine if it came out that Trey got traded somewhere else because Jerry had to get off the phone to "talk to everyone" to make sure their feelings were okay to replace the 3rd string QB? Like you mean they haven't talked through these scenarios beforehand so that if you get an unexpected call you can make the deal without risking it by having to get off the phone and talk it out.

People who are upset about this aren't thinking about real life and are trying to find drama.

Is Lance as a 3rd string QB ready to contribute in any way this year, especially if an emergency happens? Nope.

Is a roster spot not important enough to spare for grooming a 3rd string QB who needs years of work and currently looks like he doesn't belong on an NFL roster? Nope.

 

[pansophy]

Understood and agreed, but...

Did you see how good Grier looked Saturday night? I mean, keep your head coach informed and give him the opportunity to decide which players are best fit to help his team right now and next year in case an emergency comes up, don't you think?

1. Grier had been up and down to that point when the trade was made.
2. They know how they graded Trey for the draft compared to what they think Grier's ceiling is.
3. I'm sure Mike had say in whether he wanted to keep Rush or Grier. They announced that move later, so clearly Grier was the 3rd QB.
4. If Grier would have seen the field this year for any significant amount of time that means your season is over. Better to play the guy with a higher ceiling.
5. Mike wants to be in the business of developing QBs. If you aren't replacing your starter than that means spot 2 and 3 are a revolving door. Philosophically there was agreement before the move happened.
6. As I said before, Jerry pointed out needing to make the deal before the SF people got off the phone and talked to someone else. That's how deals get made, so the idea that there was time to go talk to everybody isn't real life.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The coach should have reign over their roster and the gm/owner should bud out. You think Jerry made any trades without Jimmy's approval. I miss having a coach with some actual balls and not a Jerry puppet running the show.

Yet, all of these apologists who are now making excuses for Jerry's actions are the same ones who have been rightfully berating Jerry for the same failed "Jerry way" decisions the past 28 years.

Hypocrisy at its finest.