Cowherd: Cowboys a borderline playoff team

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Now Jason La Canfora agrees with cowherd that we will slump, but he went further and said we would miss the playoffs.
 

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I can only roll my eyes when someone trots out the "gimmick" excuse. It's embarrassing.

Well keep rolling them until they fall to the floor because RG "oh my knee" is a gimmick QB in every sense of the word
and he came from a gimmick college offense by any measure. Then he was coddled in Washington because he couldn't
read defenses or understand the offense in an NFL playbook, coming from that gimmick college offense I mentioned
earlier. So they installed plays he was comfortable with, like in that gimmick college playbook.

Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins, from a non-gimmicky college offense took his job and is currently near the 20 mil per year salary.

That's six times using "gimmick" including this sentence. I hope your eyes aren't crossed.
 

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I mean, Dallas has never had back to back winning seasons in how long now? No one in the media trusts this team nor should be. I don't even trust them this season. For one big reason, this coaching staff. They are at the bottom of the league with in game adjustments and game planning. I have no faith in them at all.

Until we can show consistency in building on these seasons such as 2007, 2014, 2016, I don't see what the big deal is about someone saying we might be just a little above average.

Still so many questions about the defense.
 

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Telling us that we suck generates more interest and credence than telling us we are doing well. Cowboys Nation has a collective inferiority complex and the press loves to push our buttons.
 

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I can only roll my eyes when someone trots out the "gimmick" excuse. It's embarrassing.

If you still can't see that a washout quarterback who's currently out of the league was the product of "gimmick" offense, instead of "rolling your eyes", you should have them checked.

That's embarrassing.
 

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If you still can't see that a washout quarterback who's currently out of the league was the product of "gimmick" offense, instead of "rolling your eyes", you should have them checked.

That's embarrassing.
One doesn't say...oh, you just did.
 
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If this team struggles this year it will be the tough schedule and a defense in transition that causes it. I don't see the offense "slumping" because its approach is smash mouth and conservative, no gimmicks that other teams can spend the off-season deconstructing. They might scheme against Dak's weaknesses but again, he wasn't performing some high wire act last season, his floor is pretty high.
 
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If this team struggles this year it will be the tough schedule and a defense in transition that causes it. I don't see the offense "slumping", if anything they will be better because Dak will be better.

The only worry I have regarding the offense is a coaching tendency to get pass happy. It looked to my eyes that as the season progressed, and Prescott got more familiar and more comfortable in the offense, that's exactly what happened. And, in particular, in that playoff game against Green Bay.

I thought that the zone read stuff they ran with him to start the season was a welcomed addition but I don't remember seeing much, if any of it as the season went along. It looked to me like those plays left the offense and more passing plays moved in.

And maybe it was simply my own perceptions and someone has actual numbers to refute that, but that's the way it looked to me, and at this point, it's one of the very few things I worry about.
 

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So every time we get a rookie qb putting up great numbers, we can say "he's another RG3." Not another Dak, but RG3.
No it will be posed as a question. "Is he RG3 or Dak?" Or possibly, " An RG3\Kapernick or Dak/Wilson"
 

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The difference is that Dak is actually, well, a quarterback instead of a running back that throws the ball. Dak has shown more about reading defenses in 16 games than RGME has shown in his entire football career.


I agree with all that you said and your right, but after that Thanksgiving game when RGIII abused us there were many saying oh we have this to look forward to for the next ten years. Look by no means am I saying Dak will be RGIII. Dak will be fine. But the only point here is lets be careful because people go overboard after one season. Good or bad. I agree with the people who say if Dak was an Eagle and had the same exact year with the same team many many cowboys fans would be saying oh he is not that good, without that O Line he would suck. That's all Im saying. So let's just let it play out. Dak will have his growing pains. This year will not be a easy. If I had to choose I would say he will be fine and have a very very good career. Let's see what happens. It just that my expectations for this team is not as high as most.
 

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If this team struggles this year it will be the tough schedule and a defense in transition that causes it. I don't see the offense "slumping" because its approach is smash mouth and conservative, no gimmicks that other teams can spend the off-season deconstructing. They might scheme against Dak's weaknesses but again, he wasn't performing some high wire act last season, his floor is pretty high.


I agree but don't be surprised if Dak regresses a bit. It's OK. He will be fine, I just think we need to be realistic. By means am I saying he will have a terrible year. Not at all. It's just don't expect the same numbers this year. If you go by the Schedule ( which I know is tricky and teams change ) we will be playing much better QB. So we may be down in some of these games. So let's see how he handles all these situations. All of it will make him better in the long run.
 
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I agree but don't be surprised if Dak regresses a bit. It's OK. He will be fine, I just think we need to be realistic. By means am I saying he will have a terrible year. Not at all. It's just don't expect the same numbers this year. If you go by the Schedule ( which I know is tricky and teams change ) we will be playing much better QB. So we may be down in some of these games. So let's see how he handles all these situations. All of it will make him better in the long run.

No doubt this will be the next 'test' for Dak. IMO he needs to make strides in completing the deep "over the shoulder" throws because teams will want to sit on all of the intermediate routes. Ball placement will be a biggie too because his receivers usually don't get much separation except for Beasely
 

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https://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/...l-analyst-senses-sophomore-slump-cowboys-2017

Now Jason La Canfora agrees with cowherd that we will slump, but he went further and said we would miss the playoffs.

I think we are going to be the sexy pick to be the NFC team that misses the playoffs the year after making it. So we will see more of what Cowherd and La Canfora are saying from the pundits.

On an unrelated note, barring some injuries, if the Cowboys miss the playoffs in 2017, I don't want to see any of the "homers" defending Garrett. He's had more than enough time for on the job training. It's a results driven business and missing the playoffs for the 5th time in 7 years would not be good enough and no spin from Garrett groupies can wash that away.
 

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Why is this turd comparing RG3 to Dak?

Yes, the schedule appears to be tough as of this moment... easy to say at this point.
Dallas will win the East. They will be in the conversation for NFC Championship participants,
and we'll see what happens.

He's doing the same thing that most morons do - comparing Dak only to other African-Americans.
 

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If Prescott is truly a franchise QB...He won't need Bryants jump ball heroics. He will find the open receiver and make this offense really dangerous.


Prescott needs to stick with what got him this far. In the games that he struggled last year he tried to force the ball to Dez and it killed several drives. Some of those drives we were moving the ball steadily before he forced it to Dez.
 

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If you still can't see that a washout quarterback who's currently out of the league was the product of "gimmick" offense, instead of "rolling your eyes", you should have them checked.

That's embarrassing.

As if I would take advice from someone that doesn't understand that changing a game in the first 5 minutes changes the rest of the game.
 

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He's doing the same thing that most morons do - comparing Dak only to other African-Americans.

It's because people go on and on about "results" such as the rookie passer rating, but want to dismiss out of hand the QB that had the record prior to Dak.

People bring up Foles and others too, but they are also dismissed, for equally stupid reasons.

Race has nothing to do with it.
 

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It's because people go on and on about "results" such as the rookie passer rating, but want to dismiss out of hand the QB that had the record prior to Dak.

People bring up Foles and others too, but they are also dismissed, for equally stupid reasons.

Race has nothing to do with it.

LOL. Foles is a terrible example. One, he wasn't a rookie when he had his big season. Two, it was clear he benefitted from a offensive system that teams struggled initially to figure out. It also made Vick look awesome. Once teams figured out what was going on, Foles turned back into a turd.
 

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LOL. Foles is a terrible example. One, he wasn't a rookie when he had his big season. Two, it was clear he benefitted from a offensive system that teams struggled initially to figure out. It also made Vick look awesome. Once teams figured out what was going on, Foles turned back into a turd.

The comparison wasn't about just rookies, it was also one year wonders. Two, Chip Kelly's system isn't anything all that different from most. Teams didn't struggle to figure it out. He just runs it fast. Michael Vick was not good in it either. You might be thinking of 2010...three years before Chip Kelly came to Philly.
 

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As if I would take advice from someone that doesn't understand that changing a game in the first 5 minutes changes the rest of the game.

Whatever that's supposed to mean...
:rolleyes:

And I'm not asking you to take any "advice" whatsoever. The facts are there. The book is written. And it's likely done. Believe whatever else you want to believe.

But this gimmick quarterback isn't even in the league anymore.
 
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