Cowlishaw: As Cowboys run out of time, it's hard to trust all-seeing GM/owner Jerry Jones

[LucaBrasi]

Jerry's not the problem, just ask him

 

[DallasEast]

One or two members on this thread get it. Jerry Jones is all about winning--in his own mind. Jones has played the game. He has played on a championship team. He owns an NFL franchise. He's drafted players and hired/fired coaches. Media constantly ask him about what's working or not working for his club. He sees himself a superior, knowledgeable football person.

Essentially, this is what some fans either accepts begrudgingly or ignores completely. He thinks he knows what it takes to return championship football to Dallas. If there are fans who disagree with him, that's great. It's completely irrelevant. Why? It's because he makes the decisions for the franchise. Fans do not. While people fantasize about hiring head coaches that fit their qualifications or which players they believe are perfect for the team to draft, etc., Jones "knows" he knows better.

If you disagree with his methods or actions, that's great. You could be 100% correct about each step he has taken but it has zero to do with his desire to win. Zero. To simplify it further, Jones could be doing everything in his power to sabotage his franchise's opportunity to succeed but he "knows" in his mind that he's making all the right moves to return to the Super Bowl and win it. Fans acknowledging how Jones thinks may still dislike or even hate him but they will stop fooling themselves about his personal convictions concerning the team.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Jerry's not the problem, just ask him

Jerry is not the problem. Larry Lacewell is.

 

[DandyDon1722]

while I agree wholeheartedly TIM, TBone, Tim-nado, I'm sure all Jones hears is the teacher from Peanuts..."wuh, wa, wah, wuh-wuh-wuh"

please sell the team, sell them now while I am still above ground

Ha! Good luck with that - Spaulding has a loooooong way to go.

 

[superonyx]

I don't buy it. Jerry had more money than God 20 years ago and he certainly had it after Parcells left. If winning was important, Jerry would have made far different decisions where comfort and the need for credit wasn't the #1 goal.

You almost have to be brain dead not to win "big" in 20 years in a parity driven NFL. I firmly believe money is first and so long as the money keeps flowing even without fielding a consistent winner then it'll be more of the same. And along those same lines, was it just a coincidence when Jerry went outside his comfort zone and hired Parcells when he needed to get his stadium built? The stadium (ie: money) was the #1 priority. The writing with Jerry is on the wall and plain as day for those that want to see it.

Credit? Credit for what exactly?
Credit for winning is what....Jerry seems to still be searching for credit that Jimmy Johnson gets for 90's success.

 

[superonyx]

I disagree or he would be hiring an expert to build a consistent winning franchise. The cowboys are just a cool fun hobby for a very rich man.

You disagree yet you actually agree with me.

The Cowboys are Jerrys passion. You don't fly Lael Collins and his mom in to have dinner with you and your wife if you are not passionate. The Cowboys are who Jerry is. His identity, his everyday job ect.......

If profit was his primary motivation he would do what people want, hire an expert, and go sail around the world like owners like Jeffery Laurie do.

I see zero evidence that he only cares about maximizing profits.

He wants to win badly....but for him to feel the thrill of victory he would need to take part in building the winning team....and hiring someone would make the winning a win for the business and not for him personally.

 

[superonyx]

I don't buy your argument but let's say you're right. Then he would not
shop for assistant coaches in bargain bin basements of the league. He
never goes after top shelf coaches but, inexperienced coaches like Garrett or
has been never was coaches like Phillips.

He thinks he knows football while the past 20 years have smacked him in the
face with mediocre. He's building another great big complex in North Texas
complete with restaurants, hotels, shops, etc. He continues to tout his job
as GM but, the results everyone can see are historically and annually bad.
He refuses to cede control rather than try and get the best football man
to bring him some glory just once more in his life. I grant you that Jerry loves
ego, power & control more than money and apparently more than winning too.

I agree with you actually.
He hires bargain bin coaches because they won't demand the one thing he refuses to give up....Control.
My point is winning is his primary motivation at this point. He is a very old man and he wants to win more than make money....another couple hundred million won't make a difference in his life. Winning absolutely would...but passing the job to someone else is also passing the glory of winning...

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

One or two members on this thread get it. Jerry Jones is all about winning--in his own mind. Jones has played the game. He has played on a championship team. He owns an NFL franchise. He's drafted players and hired/fired coaches. Media constantly ask him about what's working or not working for his club. He sees himself a superior, knowledgeable football person.

Essentially, this is what some fans either accepts begrudgingly or ignores completely. He thinks he knows what it takes to return championship football to Dallas. If there are fans who disagree with him, that's great. It's completely irrelevant. Why? It's because he makes the decisions for the franchise. Fans do not. While people fantasize about hiring head coaches that fit their qualifications or which players they believe are perfect for the team to draft, etc., Jones "knows" he knows better.

If you disagree with his methods or actions, that's great. You could be 100% correct about each step he has taken but it has zero to do with his desire to win. Zero. To simplify it further, Jones could be doing everything in his power to sabotage his franchise's opportunity to succeed but he "knows" in his mind that he's making all the right moves to return to the Super Bowl and win it. Fans acknowledging how Jones thinks may still dislike or even hate him but they will stop fooling themselves about his personal convictions concerning the team.

well said.

he wants to win. he has more money than he knows what to do with. he doesn't have an SB on his own terms at all and he wants to prove to the world that those 3SB wins were on his own terms. he has spent 20years trying to do this in futility. he wants to win and win his own way. unfortunately its not working but he wants, like hell, to prove us all wrong.

 

[DallasEast]

well said.

he wants to win. he has more money than he knows what to do with. he doesn't have an SB on his own terms at all and he wants to prove to the world that those 3SB wins were on his own terms. he has spent 20years trying to do this in futility. he wants to win and win his own way. unfortunately its not working but he wants, like hell, to prove us all wrong.

Exactly.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

We all know that isnt happening. Every NFL owner is watching the cash flow in, good product or lousy product.

Then people shouldn't be upset with, worry about, or complain about Jerry Jones and how he does business.

If you're going to continue to feed him money by going to games, buying Cowboys stuff, watching games on TV then you're agreeing to him being here and doing as he pleases.

The most you can do is hope that some coach comes along who is able to overcome all that holds a team back when you've got a GM like Jerry Jones.

 

[DallasEast]

I agree with you actually.
He hires bargain bin coaches because they won't demand the one thing he refuses to give up....Control.
My point is winning is his primary motivation at this point. He is a very old man and he wants to win more than make money....another couple hundred million won't make a difference in his life. Winning absolutely would...but passing the job to someone else is also passing the glory of winning...

Jones is only 73. He's old. People can call him very old if-and-when he's 83 and unable to corner young women in restrooms at that age, lol.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Jerry is doing a hell of a lot better job but this bad season has the children whining again
please as the program corrects itself stop with the 'I'm on board' BS

What exactly is correcting itself?

 

[big dog cowboy]

For the second time this century, the Cowboys have managed to follow a playoff victory (the only two they have managed) with a losing season. This is a disturbing trend.

I really couldn't read any more. It's not a trend when the primary reason happens to be your two best players (including your pro bowl QB) going down with an injury.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

I really couldn't read any more. It's not a trend when the primary reason happens to be your two best players (including your pro bowl QB) going down with an injury.

fair point. but it doesn't look good that your whole scheme and team is predicated on Romo and you can't win 2 games in 9 trys without him. its just an indictment of a bad FO/Coach not securing even a mediocre backup to be at least serviceable if your main dude goes down. it just shows they put too much weight on Romo to do it all. They have some serious issues with not balancing out that weight.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Jerry doesn't look very healthy to me. You look at him & then look at Jimmy. Jimmy looks great. Jerry looks awful. You have to think Stephen is thinking my turn soon.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jerry admitting responsibility is meaningless because there is no accountability. Its easy to admit or take responsibility if one knows there are no consequences.

Oh I don't know about that. I used to take that attitude a dozen years ago after all those terrible drafts and Dave Campo but then he hired Parcells and very obviously surrendered power and ate humble pie publicly. It's one thing to say that you suck it's another to take meaningful action to correct it. Jerry Jones can do that. It's in the public records.

I just wish Jerry would stop acting nouveau riche and start acting more from the shadows. He very obviously loves the attention but it's counterproductive to winning.

 

[DallasEast]

Then people shouldn't be upset with, worry about, or complain about Jerry Jones and how he does business.

If you're going to continue to feed him money by going to games, buying Cowboys stuff, watching games on TV then you're agreeing to him being here and doing as he pleases.

The most you can do is hope that some coach comes along who is able to overcome all that holds a team back when you've got a GM like Jerry Jones.

Over two decades have passed since Jones and Jimmy Johnson parted ways. Millions of Lassies and Benjis have lived and die since then and some fans still haven't wrapped their brain around the Jones as owner conundrum yet.

 

[Dodger12]

Credit? Credit for what exactly?
Credit for winning is what....Jerry seems to still be searching for credit that Jimmy Johnson gets for 90's success.

Credit for winning his way which is why you'll never see another voice bigger than Jerry's ever again in Dallas. Jerry would rather lose and make money than win with someone else getting the credit.

 

[Asklesko]

incredible how we fall for it every time

 

[Dodger12]

He hires bargain bin coaches because they won't demand the one thing he refuses to give up....Control. My point is winning is his primary motivation at this point.

These two points are completely contradictory. You can't talk about winning when you're hiring bargain bin coaches. We've seen those results and so has Jerry. Winning is not his primary motivation because, if it was, he'd have done something different which he did with Parcells but only for making more money by using a top notch HC as leverage to build his monument to his ego.