Crayton is a # 2 ??!!

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Tovya;2166314 said:
Hey buddy... where's your 'sarcastic' smiley face on this post? You just got penalized 10-yards for an illegal post.

You have the worst looking avatar I have ever seen! :ralph:


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Sonny#9;2166359 said:
Very good points. To me, the Cowboys passing on a WR in the draft is a kin to the Skins passing on a DE/DT.

I think a better analogy would be the Cowboys passing on a CB or RB. Both were greater needs than WR.
 
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Crayton Blows period....

He couldnt be a #2 for the Desperados. I dont want my number 2 WR to have 4.6 speed unless he runs routes and catches like Jerry Rice.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2166369 said:
Crayton Blows period....

He couldnt be a #2 for the Desperados. I dont want my number 2 WR to have 4.6 speed unless he runs routes and catches like Jerry Rice.

well there you go.

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ABQCOWBOY;2166315 said:
TD production, from Crayton, is not the issue. Nor does it really answer the question of what happens if TO goes down. Everybody knows that if TO goes down, we are in real trouble. Nobody wants to look at that and I don't blame them because it will be a long season, IMO, and at this point in the year everybody knows that hope springs eternal. If you want to see if Crayton can really do the job, then you have to look at what he has done when neither TO or Glenn were on the field. In the past, both of those guys were the #1 coverage responsabilities for opposing defenses. If Crayton is going to carry the load if TO does go down, then the only meaningful stats is what he has done when he is the lead WR threat. I don't even know if we have enough info to be able to look at that eventuallity properly. For those who say that Felix Jones is the answer to the lack of proven WR depth, I guess I'd just make one comment. We have 2nd and 3rd year WRs who have not made the transition from the college WR position to the Pro WR position. Why would we expect Felix Jones, as a rookie, to be able to come in and produce the way a #2 or #3 WR would? Perhaps in time, but I doubt very much if that will happen in his rookie year. Compare him to Reggie Bush if you like but Bush played in a Pro Style offense that featured his ability to play a multi purpose role on offense. Jones, at Arkansas, did not.

Would be great to have another WR threat in the lineup. I don't believe Crayton is the answer, especially if TO goes down but it's irrelivent at this point. The person who asked, who could we have brought in, is the one who chimes loudest in this thread IMO. We have who we have until an option presents itself. I am for going out and getting Bolding, Williams or any other very good WR but at this point, that possability has apparently not presented itself. We have who we have right now and if TO goes down, then we are in for a long season. To me, those are the facts.

In the salary cap age, you simply cannot have stars at every position. We are in bad shape if T.O. suffers an injury, but we are in worse shape if Romo, Adams, or Ware suffers an injury.

Also, why are the Cowboys fans the one's whining about this. The Patriots are in much worse shape if Moss suffers an injury. Their #1 WR would become Wes Welker! I don't even know who their second receiver would be.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2166369 said:
Crayton Blows period....

He couldnt be a #2 for the Desperados. I dont want my number 2 WR to have 4.6 speed unless he runs routes and catches like Jerry Rice.
If the Cowboys cut Crayton, 31 other NFL teams would be waiting to sign him.
 
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AtlCB;2166373 said:
In the salary cap age, you simply cannot have stars at every position. We are in bad shape if T.O. suffers an injury, but we are in worse shape if Romo, Adams, or Ware suffers an injury.

Also, why are the Cowboys fans the one's whining about this. The Patriots are in much worse shape if Moss suffers an injury. Their #1 WR would become Wes Welker! I don't even know who their second receiver would be.

Would be Jackson from Florida..
 

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WoodysGirl;2166346 said:
That's kinda weak ABQ. You gotta get to the postseason for that logic to even apply. You and I both know the past two postseason failures were for different reasons.

IN last year's regular season, the current WR corp was quite unsuccessful in the passing game. A not quite healthy T.O. and some other questionable things (Reeves pre-halftime coverage) is what caused them to lose to the Giants in the postseason.

At some point this team needs to get another #1 receiver on the roster, but the lack of a future #1 is not the reason for past post season failures. And having a future #1 receiver on this squad now won't be the reason they succeed or fail this postseason.


What's weak about it. It's the truth. TO has only played one entire season without missing games in his previous 12 seasons in the league. Is he productive? Sure he is. Is he going into his 13 season? Sure he is. Does these facts suggest that TO will be healthy for the entire season this coming year? I don't believe so. TO played with injury last year and the year before, which is good, but it's clear that he was much less productive when injured then he was when he was healthy. Our offense was much less effective when he was injured then when he was healthy. Those facts, IMO, are in the cards for us again this season. He may stay completely healthy and if he does, we will probably be the favorite to win the Championship. However, I don't see that happening. We could still win but if you really look at last season, you will see that our teams offensive struggles were not limited to when TO was injured. We were schemed before that with success. Others will have to step up if we are to eliminate that eventuallity but that has to happen before anybody can say it's a certainty.

Read my original post. I fail to see where any of it suggested anything other then the truth of the matter. Last year, we failed because our WRs were not good enough. There is no other reason then that. You can say it was the fault of a nickCB but it was not. We had plenty of chances to over come those plays and we didn't. The running game produced more then enough to win and we lost. Romo did not have a bad game. He threw a lot of passes, under pressure, that should have been caught. You win as a team and you lose as a team. Thats fine and thats how it should be but as I look at last years efforts, I can definatly say that we lost because our WRs did not make plays. 13-3 is great but the only record that count's is the one in the post season. If you can't win in the post season, then why are we playing the game? If regular season is the measuring stick, then why play a post season?

In short, I dont' agree. WR may well be the reason we fall short again. It is, IMO, the weakest position on the team. That's how I see it.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2166377 said:
Sure they would....

But not for 15 million....
Why did you post that he wouldn't even be a #2 for the Desperados?

I was unaware that the Desperados were filled with NFL talent at the WR position.
 

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cobra;2166163 said:
Yeah, we sucked last year with Crayton as a #2. What the hell is Jerry thinking trying that again?

Screw that noise. 13-3 and franchise records in the passing game isn't good enough. Jerry is an idiot.

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don't for get the 28 per avg. :laugh2:
 

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AtlCB;2166373 said:
In the salary cap age, you simply cannot have stars at every position. We are in bad shape if T.O. suffers an injury, but we are in worse shape if Romo, Adams, or Ware suffers an injury.

Also, why are the Cowboys fans the one's whining about this. The Patriots are in much worse shape if Moss suffers an injury. Their #1 WR would become Wes Welker! I don't even know who their second receiver would be.


They are complaining about this because they are Cowboys fans. If they were Pats fans, they may well be complaining louder about the situation the Pats are in.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2166380 said:
More talented yes... better no.

lol

wasnt he a first round pick?

Exactly what has he produced, playing with the best quarterback and coach in the game?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2166383 said:
They are complaining about this because they are Cowboys fans. If they were Pats fans, they may well be complaining louder about the situation the Pats are in.
My point is that we are a bunch of whiners. As fans, the FO isn't doing their jobs unless we have superstars at every position and superstars as backups at every position. In this era, these expectations are unreasonable.
 
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theebs;2166385 said:
lol

wasnt he a first round pick?

Exactly what has he produced, playing with the best quarterback and coach in the game?

I believe he tore his knee out before the season started either last year or the year before. And I thought he fell to second round but I could be wrong. I just remember he ran a 4.3 and was a stud at the Swamp.

He will be given an opportunity this year I think with Caldwell gone and being 2 years after his knee was operated on. We will see.
 

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You have the worst looking avatar I have ever seen! :ralph:


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Oh just wait till I find the time to finish my mutant Crimson Tide/Cowboys siggy... that'll really make you sick. :D
Isn't it against the rules to combine profanity with Cowboys pics? :mad:

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cobra;2166348 said:
And what did that loss in the playoffs have to do with the concern you are expressing here? Or to put it another way, assuming we address the concern you are expressing here, how would that have changed the result?

We didn't lose in the playoffs because of "we would have been in trouble if Owens goes down." We lost in the playoffs because we got outplayed by the team that ran the table all the way to the Trophy. It happens.

What concern is that specifically?

We did get beat by a team that outplayed us but the reason we got outplayed was because we could not catch a ball when we needed to. Of all the things that have been discussed in this thread, that point is the single truth. Not just one opportunity or dropped pass. Several opportunities. I think that penalties played a very large role in that lose, as well, but if we catch one pass, none of that matters. The issue central to this discussion, at least for me, is injury to TO. We simply do not have anybody, that I know of, who can step in and allow our offense to run. I'm not even saying run as well as it did before. I'm saying run. To me, that's an issue. However, as I clearly stated before, the point made in this thread that is crystal clear is the one the speaks to opportunity to sign another WR that can fill that void. I don't know that we have had an opportunity to do that so we have to work with what we have. However, that does not change the fact that our offense is heavily reliant on TO. If he goes down, we will not fair well offensively, IMO.
 
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