Dak compares to Blake Bortles?

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The Eagles are in the championship game without Wentz and we want to call dak a system qb. Wentz would look just like Dak this year if not worse if he was drafted here because we'd have used a 1st rounder and wouldn't have zeke.

Comparing dak to bortles is laughable.
That's a sign the eagles have an excellent coaching staff to win a playoff game against a gritty Atlanta team. Kinda worried that when Wentz is back they are going to be unstoppable. This coaching staff in Dallas wouldnt help Wentz reach his potential.
 

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That's a sign the eagles have an excellent coaching staff to win a playoff game against a gritty Atlanta team. Kinda worried that when Wentz is back they are going to be unstoppable. This coaching staff in Dallas wouldnt help Wentz reach his potential.

We'd be screaming about how wentz is a bust and how Philly is unstoppable when they had Dak and Zeke on top of all the other talent they already have. Coaching definitely matters. In fact FO and coaching is the most important aspects in this era.
 

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I certainly did say that. Aikman had it very good, great offensive line, great WR, greatest RB, with a great defense.

Are you saying he didn't have it good?

I'm not saying he didn't have it good....the silly part of that statement is eluding to that he was a product of his supporting cast. Like no great qb has help.
 

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I'm not saying he didn't have it good....the silly part of that statement is eluding to that he was a product of his supporting cast. Like no great qb has help.

Very few QBs, if any, had the type of help Aikman had nor do great QBs have the kind of fall Aikman had once some of that greatness went away.
 

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There are 32 NFL teams..

There are 32 starting Quarterbacks..

There are NOT 32 franchize Quarterbacks in the NFL...

If you are one of the 32 teams that do not have a franchize QB, you better try and try untill you get your hands on one..

What is a franchize QB?

A guy that can go out there and win games for you...

A guy that does not need elite players around him to be good..

Blake Bottles and Dak Prescott are not franchize QBs..

Put Kirk cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Brady , Luck, Wilson, Wentz, Goff , on the jaguars and they win the superbowl..

With Blake Bortles? They are lucky to have won a playoff game..
 

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There are 32 NFL teams..

There are 32 starting Quarterbacks..

There are NOT 32 franchize Quarterbacks in the NFL...

If you are one of the 32 teams that do not have a franchize QB, you better try and try untill you get your hands on one..

What is a franchize QB?

A guy that can go out there and win games for you...

A guy that does not need elite players around him to be good..

Blake Bottles and Dak Prescott are not franchize QBs..

Put Kirk cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Brady , Luck, Wilson, Wentz, Goff , on the jaguars and they win the superbowl..

With Blake Bortles? They are lucky to have won a playoff game..


Kirk cousins?

Was that a typo?
 

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Kirk cousins?

Was that a typo?

Look at the year he had playing with a musical chairs O line, average to bad WR corps, and Average to bad RBs...

Now look at your boy and the year he had..

A franchize QB makes scrubs look serviceable..

A backup QB (Weeden, Cassle, Foles) makes starters look like scrubs..

Or in Dak's case, he gets starters fired/traded/retired..
 

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Look at the year he had playing with a musical chairs O line, average to bad WR corps, and Average to bad RBs...

Now look at your boy and the year he had..

A franchize QB makes scrubs look serviceable..

A backup QB (Weeden, Cassle, Foles) makes starters look like scrubs..

Or in Dak's case, he gets starters fired/traded/retired..


Cousins is not a franchise QB based on the definition you gave.

Nobody mentioned Dak btw. But your agenda was clear from the get go.
 

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Cousins is not a franchise QB based on the definition you gave.

Nobody mentioned Dak btw. But your agenda was clear from the get go.

My agenda is to watch my team win a superbowl..

You are the ying to my yang..

Now, if this is how Cousins looks with a bad supporting cast, imagine what he would do with a good one.

So yes, Cousins is a franchize QB.

You know, just because we root for the cowboys doesn't mean we have to believe that all of our players are All Pros.

Sometimes you just have to take off the Blue colored glasses and see that other teams have better players than we do..
 

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There are 32 NFL teams..

There are 32 starting Quarterbacks..

There are NOT 32 franchize Quarterbacks in the NFL...

If you are one of the 32 teams that do not have a franchize QB, you better try and try untill you get your hands on one..

What is a franchize QB?

A guy that can go out there and win games for you...

A guy that does not need elite players around him to be good..

Blake Bottles and Dak Prescott are not franchize QBs..

Put Kirk cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Brady , Luck, Wilson, Wentz, Goff , on the jaguars and they win the superbowl..

With Blake Bortles? They are lucky to have won a playoff game..

What have Goff, Luck and Cousins done to be considered franchise qb's lol?
 

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There are 32 NFL teams..

There are 32 starting Quarterbacks..

There are NOT 32 franchize Quarterbacks in the NFL...

If you are one of the 32 teams that do not have a franchize QB, you better try and try untill you get your hands on one..

What is a franchize QB?

A guy that can go out there and win games for you...

A guy that does not need elite players around him to be good..

Blake Bottles and Dak Prescott are not franchize QBs..

Put Kirk cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Brady , Luck, Wilson, Wentz, Goff , on the jaguars and they win the superbowl..

With Blake Bortles? They are lucky to have won a playoff game..

lol what makes wentz a franchise qb over dak when they're winning in the playoffs with Wentz on the sidelines?
 

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My agenda is to watch my team win a superbowl..

You are the ying to my yang..

Now, if this is how Cousins looks with a bad supporting cast, imagine what he would do with a good one.

So yes, Cousins is a franchize QB.

You know, just because we root for the cowboys doesn't mean we have to believe that all of our players are All Pros.

Sometimes you just have to take off the Blue colored glasses and see that other teams have better players than we do..


I usually have no problem doing that.

With cousins i do. He is not on the same level as the other QB’s you named. Nor are Goff and Wentz yet either for that matter.
 

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My agenda is to watch my team win a superbowl..

You are the ying to my yang..

Now, if this is how Cousins looks with a bad supporting cast, imagine what he would do with a good one.

So yes, Cousins is a franchize QB.

You know, just because we root for the cowboys doesn't mean we have to believe that all of our players are All Pros.

Sometimes you just have to take off the Blue colored glasses and see that other teams have better players than we do..

What is bad about Cousins supporting cast? He had two 1k receiving yards last year. He had a injured but great tight end.....they were stacked last year.....then the Deadskins went and got overly confident in him like you are and thought he could win without help and let those two receivers go and signed Terrell Pryor.
 

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I usually have no problem doing that.

With cousins i do. He is not on the same level as the other QB’s you named. Nor are Goff and Wentz yet either for that matter.

I'd love to hear the argument on how Dak isn't a franchise QB but Jared Goff and Wentz are lol.
 

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What is bad about Cousins supporting cast? He had two 1k receiving yards last year. He had a injured but great tight end.....they were stacked last year.....then the Deadskins went and got overly confident in him like you are and thought he could win without help and let those two receivers go and signed Terrell Pryor.


Nah man. Pierre garçon, desean jackson and jordan reed was a garbage receiving Corp. he missed the playoffs that year, all by himself.
 

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Nah man. Pierre garçon, desean jackson and jordan reed was a garbage receiving Corp. he missed the playoffs that year, all by himself.

Honestly....if you gave Dak that supporting cast.....it would be a improvement lol. With speed and reliability with Garcon.
 

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I'd love to hear the argument on how Dak isn't a franchise QB but Jared Goff and Wentz are lol.


Apparently I am unable to assess when other teams in the league have better players than the cowboys, because I am a Dak supporter. Or something.

I do support and believe in Dak. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for cousins.

I would trade him straight up for: Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Wilson, And probably Goff and wentz (based on potential).

But trade him for cousins? No way.
 

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Kirk Cousins 3 years as a starter

2015 - 101.6 QBR, 29 TDs, 11 INTs, 7.7 avg

2016 - 97.2 QBR, 25 TDs, 12 INTs, 8.1 avg

2017 - 93.9 QBR, 27 TDs, 13 INTs, 7.6 avg

Each of those years he has thrown for over 4,000 yards. Cousins isn't elite, but he's a good QB.
 
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