Dak did not play well

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And that is the time when you take advantage of the defense being worn out from being on the field for most of the first half.

Exactly right. Bad play calling, bad play execution.

The highest paid offensive line in the NFL ought to be ashamed to collect their paychecks this week.
 

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Outside of the dropped passes which were killer, the lousy running game (offensive line/Elliott/play calling) did the kid no favors. The Cowboys had like 6 yards rushing in the 4th quarter... A quarter in which they led part of the time. That's awful.

That would have been the ideal time to run Morris. He was effective earlier in the game and didn't get enough carries. The next to last drive would have been an ideal time to get him in there and see if he could continue to slip and slide for good gains.
 

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Exactly right. Bad play calling, bad play execution.

The highest paid offensive line in the NFL ought to be ashamed to collect their paychecks this week.

If that wasn't the highest paid defensive line in the league lining up opposite them I'd say it's near the top. Sometimes the other guys are good too.
 

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Exactly right. Bad play calling, bad play execution.

The highest paid offensive line in the NFL ought to be ashamed to collect their paychecks this week.
To be honest with you I kinda blame the coaches more for the run game play calling. When they ran the ball from under center the oline would attack and the ball moved better than when they ran out of shotgun and they allowed the defense to come into them instead of attacking at the line of scrimmage. Should have played a little more from the single back and I formation. It also wouldn't hurt to see a designed pitch once and a while especially with a guy like Zeke.
 

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Not to mention, his some of his numbers are inflated with dink and dunks on 3rd and longs
By thr same token , 1st downs and converted 3rd downs also shows QB performance. WR core if performed marginally better ,( also should blame OL) this would have been diff story, in spite of all this we were almost in a position to win.

The D should stop giving up 4th qtr leads. That pick by O donnell was sorely missed by refs, otherwise it would be 4th down, that would mean gints would have to drive the last possession and tie it with FG . Totally diff game !
 

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To be honest with you I kinda blame the coaches more for the run game play calling. When they ran the ball from under center the oline would attack and the ball moved better than when they ran out of shotgun and they allowed the defense to come into them instead of attacking at the line of scrimmage. Should have played a little more from the single back and I formation. It also wouldn't hurt to see a designed pitch once and a while especially with a guy like Zeke.

I think the problem with that is that Dak isn't comfortable enough taking snaps from center. If he's a much better passer from the shotgun and they are much better running from under center then it's a pretty big tip for the defense when we line up either way. As he develops that will obviously become a non-issue, but right now it's a limitation.
 

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I think the problem with that is that Dak isn't comfortable enough taking snaps from center. If he's a much better passer from the shotgun and they are much better running from under center then it's a pretty big tip for the defense when we line up either way. As he develops that will obviously become a non-issue, but right now it's a limitation.

Not true at all. Dak has done extremely well from under center. Especially play action plays.
 

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Let's be clear on that. Yeah, there were some missed catches by the receivers, but there were also some really bad throws that were missed interceptions by the defense. Let's just focus on the facts. Of the 28 quarterbacks, Dak ranked...
  • 26th in passing efficiency
  • 28th in yards per attempt
  • 22nd in completion percentage
  • 21st in adjusted net yards per attempt
In no way did he play well in an absolute sense. He was poor yesterday. You can argue that he was OK for a rookie, but he did not play well yesterday. At all.
He played a lot better than whay I'm watching right now. Cousins looking pretty pedestrian right now.
 

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Let me know when you write the rules for this site. Until what I asked was fair. The OP provided meanless stats so asking him to describe what he expects is more than fair.

The OP said he didn't play well. Not that he didn't play well for a rookie. Not that he didn't do okay for a 4th rounder. He was using the standard that is applied to any QB starting a game in the NFL. He even said you could argue he played okay for a rookie. So if you, and all these other people who refuse to pay attention, are gonna do is put qualifiers on things then you're arguing against strawmen and it's pointless.
 

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The OP said he didn't play well. Not that he didn't play well for a rookie. Not that he didn't do okay for a 4th rounder. He was using the standard that is applied to any QB starting a game in the NFL. He even said you could argue he played okay for a rookie. So if you, and all these other people who refuse to pay attention, are gonna do is put qualifiers on things then you're arguing against strawmen and it's pointless.

You are missing my point. I am asking the OP to tell me why he did not have a good game. I am asking him to tell me what he would like to have seen from Dak against the Giants. What specifically did he do or not do.
 

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You are missing my point. I am asking the OP to tell me why he did not have a good game. I am asking him to tell me what he would like to have seen from Dak against the Giants. What specifically did he do or not do.

And that is a fair question for anyone eho criticizes any player. However, when you start throwing in that he's a rookie, 4th rounder, making his first start, you're going beyond that question and inserting excuses instead of looking at what tje argument actually was. You're asking what would be well for a rookie, and not just what is well for a QB. If Tony, Weeden, or Cassell had a game like that yesterday there is not a single person that would say they played well.
 
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Sorry can't agree with you
Dak played very well against what I think will be a top 10 defense this year
The running game and our all world WR and 'great' coaching staff did nothing, absolutely nothing to help him and the 'best OL in the NFL' was good not great and he still played with poise and converted third down after third down
I think Dak will be a good one
 

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He played very good for a 4th round Rookie, that's the truth.
But tha fact is, that ain't good enough for the 2016 Cowboys, not bashing him in any way or form, he could be the guy but right now, he's just a rookie, this is a 5 win team at the most with him playing all 16 games.

This team is really nothing without #9 back there. IMO. That says a lot about Garrett BTW.
 

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Let's be clear on that. Yeah, there were some missed catches by the receivers, but there were also some really bad throws that were missed interceptions by the defense. Let's just focus on the facts. Of the 28 quarterbacks, Dak ranked...
  • 26th in passing efficiency
  • 28th in yards per attempt
  • 22nd in completion percentage
  • 21st in adjusted net yards per attempt
In no way did he play well in an absolute sense. He was poor yesterday. You can argue that he was OK for a rookie, but he did not play well yesterday. At all.


Dude he's not Brady man and he wasn't the one that didn't get out of bounds lololol I'm just seeing this btw man man man lolol already he just got here 2 weeks ago and already ready to pull out the numbers of 1st start against what looks like gonna be a good defense...
 

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I remember Tony's first real action, also against the Giants.

It was in his 4th year wirh the team although most NFL stat keepers list it as his 3rd. He spent a full year inactive for all 16 games.

The week before, he threw his first two passes in garbage time. When Bledsoe was too imobile against the Giants in the first half Parcels switched to Romo.

Tony's first pass was intercepted and returned to the Cowboy 14. The Giants scored three plays later. In fact, three of his first career 27 attempts were intercepted, the last one returned 96 yards for a TD.

Think about that before criticizing Dak's performance as a starter in the very first game of his rookie season.

Again, Dak was the only rookie starting QB in Game #1 that didnt turn the ball over.
 

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I remember Tony's first real action, also against the Giants.

It was in his 4th year wirh the team although most NFL stat keepers list it as his 3rd. He spent a full year inactive for all 16 games.

The week before, he threw his first two passes in garbage time. When Bledsoe was too imobile against the Giants in the first half Parcels switched to Romo.

Tony's first pass was intercepted and returned to the Cowboy 14. The Giants scored three plays later. In fact, three of his first career 27 attempts were intercepted, the last one returned 96 yards for a TD.

Think about that before criticizing Dak's performance as a starter in the very first game of his rookie season.

Again, Dak was the only rookie starting QB in Game #1 that didnt turn the ball over.

More qualifiers and arguing against a strawman.
 

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He had a decent game. Giants spent a ton of money to improve their D and it showed (still too early to tell how good they). Also, GarrettTop's play calling did Dak zero favors.
 
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