Dak Has A 43% 3rd Down Conversion on 3rd & Over 5 Yards

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The same defense Jared Stidham lit up? Dallas is trying to do nothing less than win the Super Bowl with Dak, he's not a rookie anymore. In that context, his performance in that game was disgraceful and alarming.
Yes, that same defense Stidham lit up in Vegas. The #1 defense in the league was at home against the Cowboys.

You being too cowardly to answer the question tells me all I need to know.

Clown logic from a terrible poster.
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I'm glad I didn't let you down. That's important to me. But who cares if he's better than 11? That means absolutely nothing!! That means less than if I said my sneakers are wet. Meaningless. The OP was meaningless. To top it off, how does it show him better than 11? I think he's top 10 because I'm a Cowboys fan and I am bias. I know he's not Joe Burrow, Rodgers, or Peyton Manning, but I'll take him over other QBs in his range like Carr, Garoppolo, or Cousins in a heartbeat. But I'm a Cowboys fan. But I don't see how the OP showed any of that. Not that stupid stat.
OK My Dude, I was just saying that nobody on the Pro Dak side ever said a word about him being better than Burrow. That's all
 

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Since we're back to comparing Dak with Mahomes again, lets's try this. What are the playoff win percentages between the 2? Championship games? Super bowls?
 

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Since we're back to comparing Dak with Mahomes again, lets's try this. What are the playoff win percentages between the 2? Championship games? Super bowls?
Literally nobody in this thread compared Dak to Mahomes.

You Anti-Dakkers sure as sharp!!!
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Always amazes me how little CZ members know about the rest of the NFL.
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Tell us... how many QBs would've played well at SF given the same circumstances as Dak in that game? The same defense that routinely makes Aaron Rodgers look like a total scrub.

Best defense in football, on the road, and without your only respectable RB in the 2nd half. Besides Mahomes, who else is lighting up that 49ers defense?????
Mahomes with a bad Oline, no run game, and one guy to throw to isnt lighting up anyone. When Mahomes has a few Olineman injured for the SB he couldnt even score a TD. He was very Dak like with 9 points and no TD's.
 

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Stick with Vaguely familiar, it serves you well. What do these football geniuses disagree with me on? That I don't think Dak is better than Joe Burrow?

If you're going to dig up some useless stat to counter the eye test, at least find one that makes sense. This one doesn't. Where's Aaron Rodgers on that list? Does he suck? The only thing you seem to be good at is insults.
You're talking about this quarterback being better than that quarterback then you say give you a stat that matters.

Ok.

Aaron Rodgers is 0-4 vs Garoppolo head to head. So who's the better quarterback?

Eli Manning has the same amount of Superbowl rings as Peyton Manning and more than Aaron Rodgers.

Trent Dilpher and Nick Foles have the same amount of Superbowl rings as Aaron Rodgers.

So according to your logic, is it safe to say you believe that Garoppolo and Eli Manning are better than Aaron Rodgers?? Because Rodgers couldn't win vs Garoppolo and Eli Manning has more rings? Ring stats matter, correct??

And I assume according to your logic that Eli Manning and Peyton Manning were on the same tier as quarterbacks because they both have two rings?

Nick Foles and Trent Dilpher are certainly on the same tier as Aaron Rodgers because they all have the same amount of Superbowl rings as well, correct??
 

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You're talking about this quarterback being better than that quarterback then you say give you a stat that matters.

Ok.

Aaron Rodgers is 0-4 vs Garoppolo head to head. So who's the better quarterback?

Eli Manning has the same amount of Superbowl rings as Peyton Manning and more than Aaron Rodgers.

Trent Dilpher and Nick Foles have the same amount of Superbowl rings as Aaron Rodgers.

So according to your logic, is it safe to say you believe that Garoppolo and Eli Manning are better than Aaron Rodgers?? Because Rodgers couldn't win vs Garoppolo and Eli Manning has more rings? Ring stats matter, correct??

And I assume according to your logic that Eli Manning and Peyton Manning were on the same tier as quarterbacks because they both have two rings?

Nick Foles and Trent Dilpher are certainly on the same tier as Aaron Rodgers because they all have the same amount of Superbowl rings as well, correct??
Mike McCarthy was an earlier Offensive Coordinator at San Francisco.

Charles Woodson was drafted by Oakland. He had received a Heisman as a defensive back. He had grown up with severe club feet and worked until he could keep up with anyone.

24 - Aaron Rodgers was taken by Green Bay and Charles Woodson signed with Green Bay. McCarthy returned to Green Bay the next season!
San Francisco had picked Smith?

It started there!! McCarthy brought focus.

Heart and insights have deep meaning when compared to glory!
 
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Eli Manning had a season of 25 interceptions in a season and learned how to protect the ball enough for the Giants to become Super Bowl Champs.

Oh yea, he was not a frog jumping and bumping his arse all of his career. :thumbup:
 

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Who would have known? My eyes deceive me. Now I'm glad we have Dak instead of Burrow. Thank God for stats.

If we were choosing between the two, I'd be right there with you. Unfortunately we were looking at Wentz, Goff, Lynch or Cooks I believe. We've definitely had some opportunities since, but Dak has always given just enough to keep the hope alive. This year will be telling. It's my belief KM was bailed out and not the other way around. Time will tell.
 

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You're talking about this quarterback being better than that quarterback then you say give you a stat that matters.

Ok.

Aaron Rodgers is 0-4 vs Garoppolo head to head. So who's the better quarterback?

Eli Manning has the same amount of Superbowl rings as Peyton Manning and more than Aaron Rodgers.

Trent Dilpher and Nick Foles have the same amount of Superbowl rings as Aaron Rodgers.

So according to your logic, is it safe to say you believe that Garoppolo and Eli Manning are better than Aaron Rodgers?? Because Rodgers couldn't win vs Garoppolo and Eli Manning has more rings? Ring stats matter, correct??

And I assume according to your logic that Eli Manning and Peyton Manning were on the same tier as quarterbacks because they both have two rings?

Nick Foles and Trent Dilpher are certainly on the same tier as Aaron Rodgers because they all have the same amount of Superbowl rings as well, correct??
This is puzzling. What you quoted has nothing to do with what you wrote here in this post. I'll assume it's just a miscommunication. I believe the opposite of what you assume me to believe. My initial comment was in response to someone using a statistic to counter the eye test. Or criticize the eye test. It went on from there. The reason I mentioned Burrow was because he was less successful than Dak in that particular statistic.
 

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If we were choosing between the two, I'd be right there with you. Unfortunately we were looking at Wentz, Goff, Lynch or Cooks I believe. We've definitely had some opportunities since, but Dak has always given just enough to keep the hope alive. This year will be telling. It's my belief KM was bailed out and not the other way around. Time will tell.
Well sure. I don't hate Dak. But I know the QB that he is. If we get to a SB it's going to be a team effort. Similar to the 49ers, the Eagles with Foles, or the Rams with Goff. Dak is a good quarterback. But don't expect him to be a Tony Romo where he can sometimes win with his arm. That's never going to happen with this QB.
 

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Well sure. I don't hate Dak. But I know the QB that he is. If we get to a SB it's going to be a team effort. Similar to the 49ers, the Eagles with Foles, or the Rams with Goff. Dak is a good quarterback. But don't expect him to be a Tony Romo where he can sometimes win with his arm. That's never going to happen with this QB.
Actually, I think it can, as long as he stays within himself. He's shown that he's capable of making pretty much any throw. What he needs to show is that he can make those throws at any time.

That's the consistency he's been lacking, thus far, IMO. If that light comes on, he can be a great QB.
 

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Well sure. I don't hate Dak. But I know the QB that he is. If we get to a SB it's going to be a team effort. Similar to the 49ers, the Eagles with Foles, or the Rams with Goff. Dak is a good quarterback. But don't expect him to be a Tony Romo where he can sometimes win with his arm. That's never going to happen with this QB.
Don’t expect him to be a Tony Romo who never showed up in the playoffs? When have we ever won a playoff game on Romos arm?

This whole post is out of it. No team wins on the arm of their quarterback. Mahomes won his ring last year because Eagles choked and gave up a fumble 6.
 

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Don’t expect him to be a Tony Romo who never showed up in the playoffs? When have we ever won a playoff game on Romos arm?

This whole post is out of it. No team wins on the arm of their quarterback. Mahomes won his ring last year because Eagles choked and gave up a fumble 6.
Lol, all games have 'bad' plays and affect momentums.
 

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Well sure. I don't hate Dak. But I know the QB that he is. If we get to a SB it's going to be a team effort. Similar to the 49ers, the Eagles with Foles, or the Rams with Goff. Dak is a good quarterback. But don't expect him to be a Tony Romo where he can sometimes win with his arm. That's never going to happen with this QB.
Dak absolutely SHREDDED the Bucs with his arm a week before the SF game.

Here's where a know-nothing bozo would counter that this doesn't count because the Bucs stink, and a well-informed poster would respond that the Bucs were 8th in the NFL in defensive efficiency.

But by all means, stick to your garbage eye test that somehow missed Dak's fantastic performance in Tampa. You totally know football.
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This is puzzling. What you quoted has nothing to do with what you wrote here in this post. I'll assume it's just a miscommunication. I believe the opposite of what you assume me to believe. My initial comment was in response to someone using a statistic to counter the eye test. Or criticize the eye test. It went on from there. The reason I mentioned Burrow was because he was less successful than Dak in that particular statistic.

Ok, fair enough.

Unfortunately, the whole eye test thing isn't always used at the professional level. I've never heard of someone using the "eye test" while negotiating for a new contract.

You know what they use in negotiations?? Stats/production. It appears that stats don't matter for Dak, but other quarterbacks can use them. The man is definitely not elite, but has proven to be a top 10 quarterback most of his career by PRODUCTION.

Dak definitely has to improve on a few things, no doubt. But the man has produced in the NFL alot better than other quarterbacks that was drafted rounds higher before he was.

Last thing about that "eye test". The eye test don't get players and coaches inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.... statistics/production does.
 
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