Adult Language Dak: He's Lying About the money, right? Fish Live

[CowboyFrog]

Brady took less, so did Mahomes...They have trophies, plus other money makin deals because it helped the Team..

Show me EXACTLY where this FO reminds you of the NE one or the KC one and then i might believe you...What happens if Dak takes less, what exactly would this FO do with the money?

 

[KJJ]

At least you admit it was garbage stats. Some act like the rest of us will forget if they deny enough.

I doubt they offered to let him come out of the game seeing as he is QB 1 & has the corresponding salary & it was a playoff game. So I'm not sure that qualifies as "never giving up". He was probably having a grand ole time out there once GB emptied the benches.

He was carving up the Packers backups so badly they had to reinsert their starters. Had our defense been able to make a couple of stops in that game we would’ve had a chance in the fourth quarter. We’ve lost two playoff games under Dak where we’ve scored 30 and 32 points. We had over 500 yards and 37 first downs against the Packers and still got blown out because of our defense. We couldn’t even hold them to an FG once. It was all TDs.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Why are they trying sign him after you said that they wouldn't?

You STAY wrong.

You’ll leave this forum embarrassed.

 

[pitt33]

We’ll see how sick and tired the fan base is of double digit wins every season if we can’t even crack 8 or 9 wins if Dak walks. We won’t be seeing the playoffs anymore if we can’t come up with a viable QB to replace him. If it wasn’t for him, we would’ve been sitting home for the playoffs last season because no way do we beat Seattle and Detroit without him. If you watch our playoff games, we have a lot of problems and our biggest problem is on defense. No part of the team craps the bed like our defense.

What difference does it make when you get in and poor quarterback play is a big reason you go home?

Playoff loss's are much harder to take than any regular season loss.

 

[McKDaddy]

He was carving up the Packers backups so badly they had to reinsert their starters. Had our defense been able to make a couple of stops in that game we would’ve had a chance in the fourth quarter. We’ve lost two playoff games under Dak where we’ve scored 30 and 32 points.G

Goodness, ya'll just don't know how to keep context. You can't brag about beating up the scout team and act as if the stats against them are in any way reflective of great play. What were his stats at halftime?

Game was already lost. No arguments for Dak or against the defense matter after halftime. They were making up their post game excuses & getting travel agents in full swing.

 

[TheSport78]

He was carving up the Packers backups so badly they had to reinsert their starters. Had our defense been able to make a couple of stops in that game we would’ve had a chance in the fourth quarter. We’ve lost two playoff games under Dak where we’ve scored 30 and 32 points. We had over 500 yards and 37 first downs against the Packers and still got blown out because of our defense. We couldn’t even hold them to an FG once. It was all TDs.

That’s not how the Packers game went at all. You left out the two offensive clunkers vs SF where the defense held them to 23 and 19 points.

 

[4lifecowboy]

This just keeps looking worse and worse for Dak.

For sure, I'm ready close his chapter.

 

[nalam]

Why should Dak take a sweetheart deal here? So Jerry and the boys can pocket more money? They literally made no real moves to better the team, so to take 'less' would be idiotic. You only take less on teams that are actually trying to win.

Problem is Dak needs all around super talent to be decently successful, Team has to spend money around him to make him Dak friendly, if he takes 30-35% CAP ( just ex. ) that leaves little for other offensive positions, like CD ( WR), OL , RB , TE

 

[KJJ]

What difference does it make when you get in and poor quarterback play is a big reason you go home?

Playoff loss's are much harder to take than any regular season loss.

The big reason we’re going home is because of our defense. You need to take the blinders off if you can’t see that. Dak has had 3 bad playoff performances in 7 playoff games and two of those bad performances were influenced by poor defensive play they put the games on his shoulders. There’s a big difference between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs. Making the playoffs gives you a chance and missing the playoffs gives you no chance.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Meanwhile Mahomes is taking less and racking up titles. Just like Brady before him. Just not smart on Dak’s part.

Those QBs had confidence in their abilities, Dak knows what he is, he trying to get all he can.

 

[CowboyFrog]

For sure, I'm ready close his chapter.

Im mean i dont think Dak is even trying to hide it at this point...he is going to FA and i would put him 90% gone when that happens as some real FO's would be asking for his service and he will leave this circus..

 

[Redsfan_83]

Oh c'mon. The Cowboys offered him a deal. Stephen said it's in Dak's court now. That was about a week ago and still nothing. Dak's holding out for a record breaking payday.

Dak just said it himself, so that should be that. He wants to honour the players of the past and future, they are his brothers. He feels he owes it to them to get as much as he can, so clearly Jerry doesn't feel the same. The ball seems to be in Jones' court as to whether or not they want to set the QB market. If they do, they will also set the market for contracts with Lamb and Micah. I have no doubt this is what the stalemate is surrounding these 3 deals, and one dagger has to fall before the other 2 get settled I would guess

 

[Brax]

The best way to get over the hump and breakthrough is consistently making the playoffs. What’s unknown is who will be our next starting QB if Dak walks after this season. It’s not like we’ve been grooming a young promising QB that’s been waiting in the wings. We’re likely to be stuck early on with a Taylor Heinicke or Bailey Zappe type. Enjoy that thought.

That’s not what past history tells us, just making the playoffs doesn’t equate with playoff success, the vast majority of the time if a QB on a good team can’t make the SB or CCG early in his career then it’s most likely not happening, so moral of the story is don’t pay for a QB who’s playoff record is poor, young QB end of rookie deal pay him and extend him once, failure let some other team screw their cap. As for no replacement, that’s on Jerry for putting his eggs in one basket.

 

[KJJ]

That’s not how the Packers game went at all. You left out the two offensive clunkers vs SF where the defense held them to 23 and 19 points.

That’s exactly how the Packers game went. Their offense put 41 points on our defense. From their opening drive on they dominated us. It was so easy, they started pulling their starters early in the fourth quarter and ended up having to bring them back because Dak was carving them up. As for the 23 points San Francisco scored in 2021, they rushed for 169 yards in that game. Their entire mindset was to control the ball which they did for 34 minutes. They completely manhandled us upfront.

They weren’t looking to put up a bunch of points. They were trying to protect Jimmy G who didn’t even play well. They didn’t want him throwing the ball all day so they ran the ball and controlled it. Had our offense gotten more opportunities in that game we could have won. We still had a chance to pull the game out on our final drive but botched it. The only respectable defensive performance we had in a playoff loss under Dak was against San Francisco in 2022. That was Dak’s worst playoff performance.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Im mean i dont think Dak is even trying to hide it at this point...he is going to FA and i would put him 90% gone when that happens as some real FO's would be asking for his service and he will leave this circus..

And we will sign someone like Davis Mills for far less than Dak's asking price and continue to have the same relative success.

 

[KJJ]

That’s not what past history tells us, just making the playoffs doesn’t equate with playoff success, the vast majority of the time if a QB on a good team can’t make the SB or CCG early in his career then it’s most likely not happening, so moral of the story is don’t pay for a QB who’s playoff record is poor, young QB end of rookie deal pay him and extend him once, failure let some other team screw their cap. As for no replacement, that’s on Jerry for putting his eggs in one basket.

So just because we haven’t had past playoff success, it means that will continue? We’ve won playoff games in the past under Dak including one against Tom Brady on the road. That was our first road playoff win in almost 30 years. We’re never going to make the Super Bowl with any QB if we don’t play better defensively and can’t find some resemblance of a running game. What NFL history tells you is, if you put the entire game on the shoulders of the QB in the playoffs, you’re going to lose. There’s a reason Dan Marino had a 8-10 playoff record. There’s a reason Dan Fouts was 3-4 in the playoffs and Warren Moon was 3-7. All three were first ballot Hall of Famers.

 

[TheSport78]

That’s exactly how the Packers game went. Their offense put 41 points on our defense. From their opening drive on they dominated us. It was so easy, they started pulling their starters early in the fourth quarter and ended up having to bring them back because Dak was carving them up. As for the 23 points San Francisco scored in 2021, they rushed for 169 yards in that game. Their entire mindset was to control the ball which they did for 34 minutes. They completely manhandled us upfront.

They weren’t looking to put up a bunch of points. They were trying to protect Jimmy G who didn’t even play well. They didn’t want him throwing the ball all day so they ran the ball and controlled it. Had our offense gotten more opportunities in that game we could have won. We still had a chance to pull the game out on our final drive but botched it. The only respectable defensive performance we had in a playoff loss under Dak was against San Francisco in 2022. That was Dak’s worst playoff performance.

Watch each possession in the Green Bay game and you’ll see. The defense got a three and out after the Dallas offense punted. What does Dak do on the next possession? INT forcing it to Cooks. Green Bay scores and the game was clearly over. Dallas had zero points until the final play of the 1st half, and Dak gifted them another 7 on the pick six. Carving them up? You mean Green Bay was up 48-16 and just played a soft shell coverage because they knew Dallas didn’t have enough time to do anything.

 

[CowboyFrog]

And we will sign someone like Davis Mills for far less than Dak's asking price and continue to have the same relative success.

for sure because we will have the same GM, the next QB will be saddled with the same FO that has failed for the last 28 years....

 

[5Stars]

Goodness, ya'll just don't know how to keep context. You can't brag about beating up the scout team and act as if the stats against them are in any way reflective of great play. What were his stats at halftime?

Game was already lost. No arguments for Dak or against the defense matter after halftime. They were making up their post game excuses & getting travel agents in full swing.

Dak could not "carve up" the big boys so when the little boys come to play then he will "carve them up". lmao

 

[5Stars]

That’s not how the Packers game went at all. You left out the two offensive clunkers vs SF where the defense held them to 23 and 19 points.

Those don't count...get it?