Dak is not good against good teams

Whirlwin

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But what about the games where the defense did show and Daks high powered offenses was kicking field goals against the Saints, Jets, Eagles
You mean the season we lost is Bryant and Jason win. And Elliot was putting the ball on the ground .
 

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no such thing as garbage stats.
just an invented talking point to fuel a false narrative by talking heads on tv.

believe what you want tho.
Geez, why can't we just give this a rest for a little while!!!!! Talk about kicking a dead horse over and over. If and when Dallas get the defense going, maybe we'll see a few wins over some good teams. I look forward to it!
 

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We wasted Zeke on a rookie contract, with the OL at its prime, training what has become at best, an average QB surrounded by plenty of talent in offense, when we could have had Romo paired with Zeke for a few years, while we trained this mediocre QB in Dak, if we really wanted.

But in reality, this FO was cheap and thought they could reproduce 2016 with this mediocrity on a rookie contract, thinking this league, like it did in 2017, wouldn’t realize all you had to do was double Beasley to expose this pretender at QB, who was at his best as a bus driver. As far as red zone offense, all defenses had to do was put a spy on Dak and let him try and beat you with his arm.

And now our genius owner signed his average QB at best to a ridiculous contract, with a “no trade clause”, coming off a broken leg when all they had to do is franchise him for another year and draft a real QB.
 

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These dudes actually think Dak is more talented than Romo, when even all of Dallas said Romo was better, but Dak had the “it” factor and the team rallies around him. These guys can’t really be serious they believe this flat-footed, throw with the arm QB, often behind the wide-open WR, who has to slow down is more talented. Wow…

In reality, they were cheap.
 

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Dak Prescott: Record against winning teams

Dak Prescott took over as the Dallas Cowboys quarterback after being drafted by the team in 2016. He got an opportunity for an injured Tony Romo that turned into a long-term gig. Prescott has been a very good quarterback for the Cowboys despite the lack of team success that was expected.

Let’s take a look at how many times the Dallas Cowboys won games against teams with a winning record with Dak Prescott as their starting quarterback.

I started to dive into this stat for every quarterback because the new hot argument is to say that a certain quarterback didn’t beat anyone good. I often see people use this argument to say players like Kirk Cousins and Matthew Stafford are not good and just put up empty stats.

First off and most importantly, quarterback wins are a team statistic. Secondly, very few quarterbacks in the NFL have a winning record against teams who finished the season above .500 in the league.

See every QB’s record against winning teams

What is Dak Prescott’s record against winning teams?
Since entering the NFL in 2016, Dak Prescott is 13-20 (.393) against teams that finished the season with a winning record.

In 2020, Dak Prescott was 0-3 (.000) against winning teams as the starting quarterback.

  • Rams (loss)
  • Seahawks (loss)
  • Browns (loss)
In 2019, Dak Prescott was 2-6 (.250) against winning teams as the starting quarterback.

  • Saints (loss)
  • Packers (loss)
  • Eagles (win)
  • Vikings (loss)
  • Patriots (loss)
  • Bills (loss)
  • Rams (win)
  • Eagles (loss)
In 2018, Dak Prescott was 3-4 (.428) against winning teams as the starting quarterback.

  • Seahawks (loss)
  • Texans (loss)
  • Titans (loss)
  • Eagles (win)
  • Saints (win)
  • Eagles (win)
  • Colts (loss)
What quarterbacks have a winning record against winning teams?
There are currently 6 active NFL quarterbacks with winning records against winning teams.

^^^^ The common denominator for these 6 QBs with winning records against winning teams? They have all been surrounded by good offenses and very good defenses.

You can digest that information on your own. The only thing I want you to take away from this is that it is extremely rare to have a winning record against teams that finished the season with a winning record.

https://sportsandfitnessdigest.com/dak-prescott-record-against-winning-teams/

By the way...Dak is 9th out of current starting QBs, or in the top 3rd, so this thread is pure horse pucky
 

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We wasted Zeke on a rookie contract, with the OL at its prime, training what has become at best, an average QB surrounded by plenty of talent in offense, when we could have had Romo paired with Zeke for a few years, while we trained this mediocre QB in Dak, if we really wanted.

But in reality, this FO was cheap and thought they could reproduce 2016 with this mediocrity on a rookie contract, thinking this league, like it did in 2017, wouldn’t realize all you had to do was double Beasley to expose this pretender at QB, who was at his best as a bus driver. As far as red zone offense, all defenses had to do was put a spy on Dak and let him try and beat you with his arm.

And now our genius owner signed his average QB at best to a ridiculous contract, with a “no trade clause”, coming off a broken leg when all they had to do is franchise him for another year and draft a real QB.


People forget that 2016 team was built for tony romo....after long hard years of fail.....brought us a 2016 team even a mid round rookie could win with.

And we never gave it back to the guy we built it for. Out of...superstition? What the.....

But it's over and done with.....forget last year and the year before and even 2016. Dak just has to give the ball to these other guys......let them do their thing and we win.
 

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I know it's not just his fault but Dak's record against winning teams the past 3 years is not good.
He's 5-13 the past 3 seasons.
He threw for a lot of garbage stats in many of the losses and hasn't performed at a top level.
For a 4th round pick, he was given a lot of deference.
But now, he's compensated as a Top level QB and he is expected to perform as such and find a way to overcome deficiencies outside of his control.
The Top QB's tend to "find a way" and that's what will be expected of Dak.
I hope he can deliver.
Is it Dak or is it the Dallas Cowboys? The defense has been terrible nearly his whole time in the league. It’s not Dak.
 

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Dak is not good enough in the RedZone for this team to be a real contender. Gotta be better in the RedZone. We don't have a defense who gives us short fields or extra chances, or almost any advantage. As offensive centric as we are they have got to come out swinging the hammer early to give us the advantage. We can't rely on a ST gimmick or a defensive play to save the day.
 

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Yeah the middle of the road defense was actually higher than it should have been ranked IMHO because the offense was generally controlling the clock and helping keep the defense off the field. And the whole single digit takeaways thing is NEVER going to cut it.

Exactly. Every good playoff team had a defense that would step it up during both the regular season and playoffs and make game changing plays when the offense was struggling. Dak (nor Tony for that matter) has never had that. All of the pressure to win was put on the offense since JG took over and into McCarthy's tenure.

We have been among the league's worst since 2010 in takeaways, field position, return TDs (only one other team is more inept than us in this category) and return yardage. Tony and Dak have had to be superhuman pretty much their entire careers.

Mahomes has been gifted 33+ return TDs by their D or ST. Dak in that same period has like 8.
 

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I guess it depends on the definition of "bash".

We get to "bash" our very good WR's...no problem.

But Dak needs protected from it? Because there is some gray area and disagreement? Gottta toe the line on him or else.....

You can add in....call them "haters" because "they don't have the ability to debate politely".
No Idea what you're talking about. You seem to have an emotional connect with the QB. And I don't care.
 

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Is it Dak or is it the Dallas Cowboys? The defense has been terrible nearly his whole time in the league. It’s not Dak.
Not true was above average in 17 and 19 and top 10 in 18. Best defenses in dallas since 07-09
 

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Not true was above average in 17 and 19 and top 10 in 18. Best defenses in dallas since 07-09

Ah yes that above average defense in 2019 that couldn’t force a punt against the Bills and Bears. Clearly Dak’s fault.
 

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Not true was above average in 17 and 19 and top 10 in 18. Best defenses in dallas since 07-09


The defense hasn’t been forcing enough turnovers. That’s the bigger issue.

I do find it’s interesting that when Dak did have a top 10 defense. They were a few plays away from an NFC title game.

Also the team got bounced by the Rams in the playoffs because that same defense then gave up 300 yards rushing.
 

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Ah yes that above average defense in 2019 that couldn’t force a punt against the Bills and Bears. Clearly Dak’s fault.


Any defense that is near the bottom in forced
Turnovers is not above average. Turnovers forced is maybe the most important defensive stat. Total yardage stat is useless.
 

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The folks making excuses for Dak for past seasons will be making the same excuses this season and every season he is the starting QB. Dak ain’t it…period.
 

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Romo talent wise can’t compare to Prescott


Romo is by far the superior quarterback but Dak is still improving.

Romo basically ran his own offense per ex players, switched plays at the line of scrimmage all the time, could read defenses better than dak, and made below average/ average players look decent. Romo picked up a ton of dead weight.

Dak is surrounded by an incredible amount of talent on offense. This is not a knock on Dak though. He has made tremendous strides in what I consider a top 6-8 quarterback on the league before his injury. My one key thing I want him to approve upon this year is stop being a "bus driver" which you can still see all the time.

The one thing that dak has over Romo in spades is leadership ability though.
 

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the butt hurt is strong with the Dakazoids. Dak was never going to carry this team to anything. He is a great bus driver and I mean great. Give him an all pro line, all pro WR's, and all pro Running back and he will look decent. Dont get me wrong. He's a great dude and people the players around him like him very much. But thats not winning championships.
 
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