Dak lost this game

ondaedg

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right because the need to throw that many times wasn’t attributed to his interception and fumble that led to a 14 point swing and the loss of momentum.

let’s assume that he didn’t toss the INT before the half, at worse we come away with 0 points and go into the half down 1 point and the prospect of getting the ball back to start the second half. At best we score a TD and go into the half up 6 with the chance of going in offense to start the second.

now assume he didn’t fumble the first drive in the second half, then again at worse we are down by 1 point and in the best case up by 13 points.

Those two turnovers not only cost us points it completely wrecked the momentum and it caused us to then need to have Dak throw it 57 times. Nit sure how you cannot look at that and say that it isn’t where the game changed.

Blah blah blah he made a mistake. Tom Brady and Deshaun Watson have 6 INTs between them already so head on over to their forums and rip into them ok?

Mistakes at the QB position happen especially when you have arguable the worst special teams and defense in the league. Russell Wilson had guys running around WIDE freaking open the entire game while Dak was threading needles. And Seattle has 6 takeaways to our massive TWO. Blaming Dak despite a great performance is lunacy.
 

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So Dak has to take it up the azz because of other players bad contracts.

it’s not an argument to say to Dak that because we overpaid Cooper (just going with your reasoning) we are not not going to pay you what your worth.

And I love this “hope” you Dak haters have with his replacement and one year retread QB’s like a Brady and Cam aren’t going to teams with the defensive holes a team like Dallas has. They want to win now.

A good young gun slinging QB, if you have one, is what you build your team around.

Period.

End of story.
Dak is not the problem or the reason the cowboys lost .
But do you agree , and the results show it , that Dak is not elite enough to overcome the deficiencies that this team has ? We have seen clearly that Dak cannot overcome the shortcomings on defense on this team . He is good but not enough to make the difference on the W and L column. Anyone can see it . His record and the cowboys record is terrible against good teams . To compound the problem and pay him 35-40 mil means there is no chance to win a super bowl and will remain a 8-8 team . Any other argument is futile .
 

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Drew Brees did that during a rebuilding phase the team was going thru and after having 5 seasons where he went 13-3 twice 11-5 twice and a SB win and since those 3 seasons (which were 7-9 by the way) he has gone 11-5 and 13-3 twice. When Dak wins a SB or heck even gets the team to a championship game he will be cut some slack right now he is going in thw wrong direction and has been for awhile
I think most people cut Dak some slack after 2017 tbh. I didn't see as many posters on the I'm not sure train as there is now. If you're known for playing good you get some slack.
 

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Yea that’s cool I’m not talking about those games. I’m talking about this one. Dak gifted this game to Seattle.
Dak was asked to throw the ball 57 times to Wilson's 40. That's not a good position to put a QB in -- any QB. The shot of Dalton and Dak talking about his first INT -- you could see Dak was mad at himself. The other two turnovers, what can you do?

Defense has given up 39 and 38 points in consecutive games. Yes the turnovers have put the defense in a bad spot too, but you know holding teams to FGs is a thing too. Dak is more than enough to win the big one, but there have only been a couple of years in the last 15 that the offense, defense, and special teams were all playoff caliber in the same year. A bit unfair to put all that on the QB position.
 

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I heard from several ex-players on the various sports talk shows this morning that Cooper's route was poor on the INT before the first half and they place that on Coop. Also most place the fumble on the OLs failure to protect adequately(particularly Connor Williams getting manhandled). Seems like those close to the gave were a bit more forgiving than most. They actually placed more of the last INT on him (which I had originally gave a pass, because he managed to stay upright after a near sack), they said there was enough time for another pass, so there was no need to throw a jump ball.

Im sorry, but I feel this game isnt on Dak. If you are forced to throw 57 times, you just open yourself up for turnovers. In spite of all of the sloppiness on both sides of the ball for Dallas, Dak still managed to get us the lead late in the 4th qtr.
My question is would the narrative be different today if the Defense held on 4th and 3 and pulled out the W? Would we be saying how he was a warrior and brought us back?

I seem to remember Dak had a much worse game against Philly in 2018 with 3 turnovers (and all were definitely on him) , but he had 455 and won in overtime on the deflected pass Cooper caught. The message boards was much kinder to Dak then as compared to now. What was the difference (besides winning and losing)?? ----the Defense. Dak got the lead late in the 4th, the D couldnt hold.
 

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The only difference in this game was our QB turned the ball over 3 times. Their defense sucked too, their OL was in shambles, they couldn’t run the ball. Stop with the lame excuses man. Go re-watch the game. The teams effort was solid our QB let us down big time.
Solid? Remind me how many points the Seahawks got, please.
 

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apparently, only Dak’s defense is bad. Jamal Adam’s going out with a groin injury and a secondary that gets lit up regularly doesn’t happen for Seattle.. And Moore is to blame for all the “covered” WRs that we’re never wide open, with Dak just throwing dimes..
 

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He puts up 31 points on the road, and its all his fault? Hahaha
 

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Dak stans are blaming Jerry now, when they were telling us before the season how this is the most stacked offense ever and we are SB bound...
 

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He puts up 31 points on the road, and its all his fault? Hahaha

With zero fans in the stands. How many points did the Patriots and Falcons put up against Seattle secondary? Dak stans were telling us how much Cak Newton sucks, now they are making excuses with stats for Dak that every QB has put up against Seattle.. Even Atlanta blew a 16 point lead to the Bears, of all teams, and Foles put up 20 points in the 4th quarter..
 

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No one talks about the dropped interception. 30-22at the time would have been Seattle ball on Dallas 30 yard line. Game over. Blow out

Nor Dak they talk about his top 3 “DBs dropped INTs” last year.. if anything, Dak is lucky.. either that or that also explains why his WRs keep ‘dropping’ his duds..
 

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While Dak kept us in the game he also contributed to the problem with his turnovers leading to points. If he kept it clean we would probably have won. Let's not give him a free pass when he deserves some of the blame.

Offense has contributed 14+ points in each game the last two weeks. Unacceptable by any means. The defense....don't even get me started

Both sides need to clean up the sloppiness however it shown with this offense we can put up points whenever we want.
 

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A DB dropped a sure INT in scoring territory and Dak was completely careless once again in their own territory when he was getting sacked and he blindly and out of control tossed the football to his left, that could have easily been a backward pass and allowed another Seattle score, with like five defenders around the ball..
 

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Dak can't throw the ball as much as he has and expect to win. He is leading the league in attempts and with that comes turnovers. No balance attack right now because are line is ****. Also, our d is a sieve. Until the line gets healthy and somehow we get that defensed going, Dak will need to throw more than he should, frankly any QB should throw.
 

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Dak is not the problem or the reason the cowboys lost .
But do you agree , and the results show it , that Dak is not elite enough to overcome the deficiencies that this team has ? We have seen clearly that Dak cannot overcome the shortcomings on defense on this team . He is good but not enough to make the difference on the W and L column. Anyone can see it . His record and the cowboys record is terrible against good teams . To compound the problem and pay him 35-40 mil means there is no chance to win a super bowl and will remain a 8-8 team . Any other argument is futile .

he almost threw for 500 yds. He’s elite so get over it.
 

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Look at the one route that Moore kept going to on third and long the whole first half. It was a basic crossing route with guys like Cooper isolated on a DB, with two steps ahead. 6 of Dak’s first 8 passes caught were this and dudes have the audacity to blame Moore, with this one read QB who is stating his WRs down who he is going to on pretty much every pass.. That’s how this scrub was moving the ball, and they say OUR defense is porous.. then they lost Jamal Adams in the second half as well.

People even have the audacity to blame Schultz on the third and 9, with the DB having complete inner position, with Dak not taking his eyes off Schultz the whole time.

This guy is as system a QB as they come.. and he is untouchable up his fans, while everybody else, from top down is to blame..
 
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