Dak needs to take less. Can he fix/redo contract?

[Beast_from_East]

The point is what is the worst GM in the N.F.L. going to do with another 10 million for this roster. Sorry I have to spell it out for you.

You want to know how bad our GM is?

He paid the SF draft bust $5 mill this year and refused to play him till the last game of the year, then he paid the washed up Ewok $3 million and released him before the season was even over.

That is $8 million flushed down the toilet...........oh wait, you know what the Ravens are paying King Henry this year......wait for it.....$8 million.

See, when your GM has the IQ of a 5 yr old, having extra money really is not going to make that much of difference.

 

[Chasing6]

You want to know how bad our GM is?

He paid the SF draft bust $5 mill this year and refused to play him till the last game of the year, then he paid the washed up Ewok $3 million and released him before the season was even over.

That is $8 million flushed down the toilet...........oh wait, you know what the Ravens are paying King Henry this year......wait for it.....$8 million.

See, when your GM has the IQ of a 5 yr old, having extra money really is not going to make that much of difference.

Just wait and watch him resign Trance, so he can double down on stupid.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He shouldn't. It's not like Jerry would use the extra money if he did. Remember Dak was on a rookie deal for four years. His highest paid year was his 4th year at 2.5M. That's almost a free QB by NFL standards. Jerry did not deviate from his process. You know how Brady took a little less because he wanted to win. He wouldn't do it here because Jerry would just pocket the excess. He doesn't try to stack the team. He builds through the draft and pays his own drafted players. On occasion trade for fringe players that used to be really good.

Exactly............this point has been raised about 20 times in this thread and virtually nobody has countered it.

Dak played by today NFL standards, virtually for free for the first 4 years of his contract, roughly around $1.4 million a year on a 4th round rookie contract.

The team did absolutely nothing with the savings, last top tier free agent signed was Brandon Carr in 2012, after that the front office vowed to build exclusively through the draft.

So, somebody answer this point that has been raised, why should a QB take a pay cut or give back salary for a team that builds exclusively through the draft? The savings are not going to be spent on free agents, last free agent signed was 4 years prior to Dak even being drafted. Think about that and maybe you can start to understand why Dak and Lamb wanted top dollar deals.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Just wait and watch him resign Trance, so he can double down on stupid.

For double the money too

 

[FanofJerry]

Why is this board all the sudden defending good, when this topic has been spammed on this board for years and no one cared and most of the board laughed about the inequality?

Why does this board care now and not then?

 

[diamonddelts]

Why is this board all the sudden defending good, when this topic has been spammed on this board for years and no one cared and most of the board laughed about the inequality?

Why does this board care now and not then?

The board has entered Nirvana.

 

[diamonddelts]

Exactly............this point has been raised about 20 times in this thread and virtually nobody has countered it.

Dak played by today NFL standards, virtually for free for the first 4 years of his contract, roughly around $1.4 million a year on a 4th round rookie contract.

The team did absolutely nothing with the savings, last top tier free agent signed was Brandon Carr in 2012, after that the front office vowed to build exclusively through the draft.

So, somebody answer this point that has been raised, why should a QB take a pay cut or give back salary for a team that builds exclusively through the draft? The savings are not going to be spent on free agents, last free agent signed was 4 years prior to Dak even being drafted. Think about that and maybe you can start to understand why Dak and Lamb wanted top dollar deals.

Yep no one ever comes with a proper counter argument for this. They just go for the low hanging fruit and fall for the crab mentality propaganda.

 

[diamonddelts]

You want to know how bad our GM is?

He paid the SF draft bust $5 mill this year and refused to play him till the last game of the year, then he paid the washed up Ewok $3 million and released him before the season was even over.

That is $8 million flushed down the toilet...........oh wait, you know what the Ravens are paying King Henry this year......wait for it.....$8 million.

See, when your GM has the IQ of a 5 yr old, having extra money really is not going to make that much of difference.

Exactly.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Just wait and watch him resign Trance, so he can double down on stupid.

That will 100% happen.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Agreed to a contract after year 3 and then renegged. And then insisted on a short team screwing deal.

How did Dak renege on a deal he never agreed to? Also, how is a 4 year deal "short term" when they're so common around the league?

My point is when it comes to the cap, free agency and team building Jerry has cried "broke" for 28 years. While other GM's have built teams and won SB's. It's time to stop blaming players for wanting money.

 

[conner01]

He needs decrease to 45-50 a year max. Is that possible for him to redo and take less? Management needs to demand he redo it. Otherwise we are screwed for 4 years.

Pipe dream. You gonna go tell your boss since you were off sick last week you want your salary cut?

 

[kskboys]

How did Dak renege on a deal he never agreed to? Also, how is a 4 year deal "short term" when they're so common around the league?

My point is when it comes to the cap, free agency and team building Jerry has cried "broke" for 28 years. While other GM's have built teams and won SB's. It's time to stop blaming players for wanting money.

It's obvious you weren't paying attention. And still are not. In the offseason before his 4th year, Dak agreed to a contract paying him around 32-33 mil/season. Verbally. He then went back on his word. It was in the news at the time.

It's quite obvious that a team needs a longer term deal for a huge contract so they can push it down the road. I believe Dak is the only QB w/ a 4 year deal. Not sure, but the ones that I know of are in the 5-10 year deal. And Dak insists on only 4 years, does not care one witt how it affects the team.

I agree w/ your last sentence.

 

[Flamma]

It's obvious you weren't paying attention. And still are not. In the offseason before his 4th year, Dak agreed to a contract paying him around 32-33 mil/season. Verbally. He then went back on his word. It was in the news at the time.

It's quite obvious that a team needs a longer term deal for a huge contract so they can push it down the road. I believe Dak is the only QB w/ a 4 year deal. Not sure, but the ones that I know of are in the 5-10 year deal. And Dak insists on only 4 years, does not care one witt how it affects the team.

I agree w/ your last sentence.

Herbert 5 years
Murray 5 years
Love 4 years
Burrow 5 years
Lawrence 5 years
Hurts 5 years
Jackson 5 years
Allen 6 years
Tua 4 years.

 

[Flamma]

How did Dak renege on a deal he never agreed to? Also, how is a 4 year deal "short term" when they're so common around the league?

My point is when it comes to the cap, free agency and team building Jerry has cried "broke" for 28 years. While other GM's have built teams and won SB's. It's time to stop blaming players for wanting money.

People complain about the players pay because it has become part of the game as long as a salary cap exists. Why would any fan that wants the best for their team see their team be hurt by overpaid players? Are you a fan of a team, or do you have some man crush? I don't mean you specifically, just in general. If there was no salary cap, pay the man whatever he wants. It's not my money.

I don't care about what they paid Dak because it doesn't change what the front office does. I cared that they gave him another contract. I didn't want him if he played for McDonalds.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Asking was a typo - should be acting....other than that it is accurate, guess you have challenges reading which isn't surprising since it looks like you are from Houston. Bless your heart

nah. you were drunk

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Doug Free took a pay cut.

Doug Free took a pay cut.

it was either take a pay cut and be cut. Doug wasn't going to make that kind of money after the pay cut anywhere.
he made a business choice

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Exactly............for all those saying Dak's contract is keeping the team from adding free agents, I just got one simple question maybe somebody can answer for Beast.

"Where were all these free agents and roster additions when Dak was playing on a 4th round rookie contract for peanuts"???

I will save everybody a google search, the last top tier free agent signed by Dallas was Brandon Carr in 2012.

See, players and agents in the NFL are not stupid. When they see a team spend basically nothing on free agents when their client is on a rookie deal, dont be surprised when they ask for market-setting, top-dollar contracts when their clients are free agents.

its all a BS. they don't like Dak, so when the Jonses say they have cap issues, they just jump on it.
we had 23M on the cap last year. didn't spend it. didn't spend additional 3M to get Henry
didn't spend to sign a true DT, instead went as cheap as possible.
Philly spend 140M+ on FAs. Detroit about the same or little less. we spent 18M!

that tells you Jerry's plan.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You want to know how bad our GM is?

He paid the SF draft bust $5 mill this year and refused to play him till the last game of the year, then he paid the washed up Ewok $3 million and released him before the season was even over.

That is $8 million flushed down the toilet...........oh wait, you know what the Ravens are paying King Henry this year......wait for it.....$8 million.

See, when your GM has the IQ of a 5 yr old, having extra money really is not going to make that much of difference.

we also had 23M space on the cap and chose not to spend it.

you know why he played trance? so he doesn't have to pay Rush 250K bonus.
and then there was tampa who gave Evan one catch to get over 1000 yards so he gets 3M.

that tells you the difference between the two clubs.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Herbert 5 years
Murray 5 years
Love 4 years
Burrow 5 years
Lawrence 5 years
Hurts 5 years
Jackson 5 years
Allen 6 years
Tua 4 years.

Goff 4 years
Cousins 4 years
Stafford 4 years
Carr 4 years


and you see similar type contract lengths for other positions.

Jefferson 4 years
CD 4 years
Brown 4 years
Aiyuk 4 years

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

It's obvious you weren't paying attention. And still are not. In the offseason before his 4th year, Dak agreed to a contract paying him around 32-33 mil/season. Verbally. He then went back on his word. It was in the news at the time.

It's quite obvious that a team needs a longer term deal for a huge contract so they can push it down the road. I believe Dak is the only QB w/ a 4 year deal. Not sure, but the ones that I know of are in the 5-10 year deal. And Dak insists on only 4 years, does not care one witt how it affects the team.

I agree w/ your last sentence.

Verbal agreements aren't binding in the NFL.

15 QB's have 4 year contracts.
(chart is on the bottom of this page)
https://www.thestreet.com/sports/nfl-starting-quarterback-salaries