Dak on Hurts contract

[iceberg]

contracts are timing in as much as anything. top qb's, whether we like them or not, will get the top dollar of the time. salaries keep going up and the league has to keep finding ways to pay for itself as it continues to bloat.

 

[acr731]

contracts are timing in as much as anything. top qb's, whether we like them or not, will get the top dollar of the time. salaries keep going up and the league has to keep finding ways to pay for itself as it continues to bloat.

Who inevitably pays the price for these astronomical salaries? If you think the overall cost of going to a game is outrageous now, just imagine how it will be in another 20 years.

 

[charron]

It's not the players job to take a discount. I'd love it if he did but they need to do whatever makes them happy. It's the job of the front office to balance talent vs cost.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Many of us definitely want to support Dak and we should as Cowboys fans. I still think hes a good QB, capable of winning games, but he's not going to carry a team to victory against top teams like the Mahomes consistently. I feel his contract should reflect that so we can surround him with the talent to give him the best chance of winning. Whether he takes that discount seems unlikely at this point, but doesn't mean as fans we should root against him.

I'm jusy excited for this season to see how far this talented team can go and then I'll worry about Dak's contract later.

why are we comparing Dak to Mahomes. there is only one Mahomes. Burrows is not mahomes. there are at best 3 elite QBs in the league right now. there are a bunch of good ones after that, depending on your arguments. of course Dak won't be able to carry the team like Mahomes. Neither could Cousins, Allen, Herbert, Lawrence, Geno, Hurts, Goff, Tua, Carr, Wilson (any longer), etc.

and the market is what the market is. there is no discount. who cares. how much discount. its about cap management. last two years cap hit was 17,19M. Hurts next 4 years is very reasonable. its not about averages. at some point, they all are cut and you take a big lump sum hit.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

A lot of people are upset because Dak and his contract hold their favorite team back from winning a championship.

how? how is it holding back? tell me how this has stopped us from signing anybody we want? last year we had 20M of cap space we CHOSE not to use. last two years cap hit was 17M, 19M. this is a made up fallacy by a bunch of folks who can't provide any evidence that this has stopped us from signing FA we want. give me names. give me who. give me cost. otherwise, you have nothing.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The QB position is going to destroy the NFL salary CAP. What Hurts got is the floor for guys like Burrow. The Chiefs look like geniuses for locking up Mahomes for 10 years. The Cowboys were stupid for signing Dak to only 4 years knowing they would be facing another contract negotiation with a player who has made it clear money is his priority.

no it won't. eventually it will balance out. every team has 53 players under contract. every year a team wins the super bowl. every year there will be 14 teams in the playoffs.

 

[CATCH17]

how? how is it holding back? tell me how this has stopped us from signing anybody we want? last year we had 20M of cap space we CHOSE not to use. last two years cap hit was 17M, 19M. this is a made up fallacy by a bunch of folks who can't provide any evidence that this has stopped us from signing FA we want. give me names. give me who. give me cost. otherwise, you have nothing.

Cooper Rush can win 3 of 4 as our starter.

Andy Dalton had a higher win % than Dak the year he started.

Just find someone league average and the win loss column isn’t going to look any different than it does with Dak.

 

[iceberg]

Who inevitably pays the price for these astronomical salaries? If you think the overall cost of going to a game is outrageous now, just imagine how it will be in another 20 years.

long ago i said thing would move from cable to pay per view. it didn't quite go the route of simply doing pay per view on network channels, but it has moved off to channels you must now pay for. it will likely keep going in that direction. now that the NFL is on various channels, some will simply miss games because they are not subscribed to youtube or *other* channel for any given reason.

don't look for me to argue with you - its insane and people simply can't afford to go to games like they used to. im seeing more and more of my friends going to XFL and so forth with a few of my photographer friends covering them when we'd never get a shot at a cowboys game.

as long as people pay it, they will keep doing it. getting mad a player you don't like got top dollar is pointless.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

dak is like jerry lol , make the maximum amount of money # 1 priority, then 2nd win a SB, or maybe I should say get in playoffs is # 1 , then win division, win in playoffs,
then the rest is a big maybe.

this made no sense.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Cooper Rush can win 3 of 4 as our starter.

Just find someone league average and the win loss column isn’t going to look any different than it does with Dak.

omg, stop with that line. its all the ammo you got. ...cooper rushed produced 22nd and worst offense in the league. you can win a few games here and there, with defense scoring left and right and playing out of their mind. but long term is not possible. Rush totally fell apart his last two games. just came undone.

for reference. of the bottom 14 teams offensively. only 1 made the playoffs in 2023, bottom 12 teams in 2021, didn't make the playoffs. on and on and on. if that's all you have to argue for rush, then you have nothing.

 

[CATCH17]

omg, stop with that line. its all the ammo you got. ...cooper rushed produced 22nd and worst offense in the league. you can win a few games here and there, with defense scoring left and right and playing out of their mind. but long term is not possible. Rush totally fell apart his last two games. just came undone.

for reference. of the bottom 14 teams offensively. only 1 made the playoffs in 2023, bottom 12 teams in 2021, didn't make the playoffs. on and on and on. if that's all you have to argue for rush, then you have nothing.

I don’t care about Dak’s fools gold stats.

You may be a fool for them but myself and anyone living in reality isn’t.

Too bad we can’t play the NFC East every game.

 

[bottleKids]

I don’t care about Dak’s fools gold stats.

You may be a fool for them but myself and anyone living in reality isn’t.

Too bad we can’t play the NFC East every game.

And this will become harder over the next 3 seasons... Giant and Eagles getting better, and now with Snyder gone, it is only a matter of time for the Commanders to turn the ship around. We need to stay ahead of the division with good quality signings (like we did this off season), but also need to stop with the excuses and make sure there is a culture of accountability in the organization (this is where Dallas struggles).

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don’t care about Dak’s fools gold stats.

You may be a fool for them but myself and anyone living in reality isn’t.

Too bad we can’t play the NFC East every game.

its not fools gold stats. Rush's stats is fools gold. keep saying he won 4 games is a fools gold stat. so stop with the Rush fools gold stats. and for reference, Dak has won way more games than Rush. I take fools gold stats over Rush, 8 days a week.

no, wait, make that 9 days a week.

 

[Ken]

He proved a point that he couldn’t win it on his rookie deal.

Major red flag in comparison to other QBs around his skill set who are either jag vets or on rookie contracts when they win a title.

If you can’t win it on the rookie deal you likely won’t win it on the bet deal and he’s proven that.

So what is Allen's, Herbert's, Hurts, Burrow's, etc etc etc excuse for not Wilmington it on their rookie deals?

Weird unit of measure btw.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

What type of logic is this… It doesn’t cost me anything to watch, nor would I ever be caught in a Dak jersey, even if I got it for free.

Google how the nfl gets paid. Just to give you a hint... its not all apparel sales and RedZone subscriptions.

 

[CATCH17]

So what is Allen's, Herbert's, Hurts, Burrow's, etc etc etc excuse for not Wilmington it on their rookie deals?

Weird unit of measure btw.

Allen, Herbert, and Burrow have elite talent and the ability carry their team and not get carried by there team.

Hurts is a system QB and they screwed their team. Dak’s better than him.

You pay elite talent elite money.

Dak’s not an elite talent.

Now mention market value.

 

[Ken]

Allen, Herbert, and Burrow have elite talent and the ability carry their team and not get carried by there team.

Hurts is a system QB and they screwed their team. Dak’s better than him.

You pay elite talent elite money.

Dak’s not an elite talent.

Now mention market value.

Your point makes no sense. They have "elite" talent so it is ok they didn't capitalize on their rookie deal window?


lol

 

[USArmyVet]

Dak sucks end of story.

 

[CATCH17]

Your point makes no sense. They have "elite" talent so it is ok they didn't capitalize on their rookie deal window?


lol

How does that not make sense?

They can actually validate their contract with their ability.

It’s like you comparing a race car to a Honda and saying they should be the same price lol.

 

[Ken]

How does that not make sense?

They can actually validate their contract with their ability.

It’s like you comparing a race car to a Honda and saying they should be the same price lol.

Your original point was it was damning for Dak that he couldn't win on his rookie deal bc theoretically he has more talent around him to work with.

Yet....the "Elite" qbs also could not win it with theoretically more talent around them but because you like the way their butts look in their tights...you think it validates their huges contracts?
Am i following this right?