Dak or Romo?

[BrassCowboy]

that's the wrong premise IMHO. he didn't have the OL that he had towards the end of his career, but he did have a good OL in early years. the middle years sucked. I mean that was awful and Jerry learned his lesson, thus having drafted Tyron and Martin high in first rounds, which they had never done before.

IMO, they are different style QBs, but both good. Romo didn't come through. Dak hasn't. hopefully that will change this year.

Yeah well he was running for life many times there and although it was fun to watch sometimes, physically had to take a toll, but I can accept your premise. Like I said, Dak has the ability to be great but I would like to see more consistency game to game.
At this point I root for him as he is a great person, he represents the team well, and he has the talent. He just needs to get it done.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Romo had 3 All Pros on his offensive line how is it a given he didn’t have a good line early in his career?

Well he played from 2006 to 2015 (4 games in ‘15) so yeah when all pro ? Are you talking ‘13 & ‘&14? Well I won’t let Romo off the hook for those 8-8 seasons, but this team as a whole played at that 8-8 level. The culture, which still lingers at times but not as much I guess, was not conducive to good football. And that culture has lingered with this team since its last superbowl.
I know this has less to do about what we are talking about (Romo & Dak) but actually is more a reason why this team failed for 20-something years.
Maybe you want to argue with someone else because my opinion is that at this point I would say Romo is a better qb, but I think Dak is a very good qb who can be great and I mean great by making and winning a sb. He has matched in terms of length Romos career, and he will surpass that length (with upcoming contract extension). I didn’t not realize this board would react with such disdain for opposing opinions to a simple question considering Dak can change everyone’s opinion in a real short time, but even not doing so doesn’t matter. It is what it is.
I would not place Romo in the hall of fame, nor would I Dak but Dak still has a chance and I will still root every week he earns that right.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well he played from 2006 to 2015 (4 games in ‘15) so yeah when all pro ? Are you talking ‘13 & ‘&14? Well I won’t let Romo off the hook for those 8-8 seasons, but this team as a whole played at that 8-8 level. The culture, which still lingers at times but not as much I guess, was not conducive to good football. And that culture has lingered with this team since its last superbowl.
I know this has less to do about what we are talking about (Romo & Dak) but actually is more a reason why this team failed for 20-something years.
Maybe you want to argue with someone else because my opinion is that at this point I would say Romo is a better qb, but I think Dak is a very good qb who can be great and I mean great by making and winning a sb. He has matched in terms of length Romos career, and he will surpass that length (with upcoming contract extension). I didn’t not realize this board would react with such disdain for opposing opinions to a simple question considering Dak can change everyone’s opinion in a real short time, but even not doing so doesn’t matter. It is what it is.
I would not place Romo in the hall of fame, nor would I Dak but Dak still has a chance and I will still root every week he earns that right.

Not arguing just asking a question if Leonard Davis, Gurode and Flozell were All Pros? That’s not a weak line.

 

[Motorola]

Broccoli or green beans?

Either would be left over on the plate if the steak was too big.

By steak, I mean someone like Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman.

Until Dak starts on a winning Super Bowl team, he is grouped with Romo among the "others" in the 3rd tier of very good quarterbacks that didn't win anything.

1st tier:

Roger Staubach
Troy Aikman

2nd tier

Don Meredith
Danny White
Craig Morton

3rd tier

Eddie Lebaron
Tony Romo
Dak Prescott

No tier:

Chad Hutchinson
Steve Pelluer
Quincy Carter
Gary Hogeboom

Used merchandise with previous "wear and tear" tier

Andy Dalton
Matt Cassel
Drew Bledsoe
Vinnie Testaverde

A compliment to you, 'plasticman', for including Eddie LaBaron in your rankings of Cowboys QBs past and present.
• First-ever Dallas Cowboys starting quarterback.
• Selected as NFL Rookie of the Year with a team that would later become a division rival.
First remember seeing LeBaron announcing on NFL games for CBS Sports (thus making him the first former Dallas Cowboys quarterback that went into the broadcasting business.
Later on, while a college student in Atlanta, Lebaron became the Falcons GM.

 

[Motorola]

Backup One Hit Wonders:

Clint Longley
Jason Garrett
Cooper Rush

AND - how uncanny were Longley's and Garrett's OHW games so simlar:
• Both occurred on Thanksgiving - exactly two decades apart (1974, 1994)
• Both backups were replacing an injured starter - Longley replaced Roger Staubach who was injured during the holiday game - and Garrett replaced Rodney Peete who was injured in the previous game on Sunday.
• Both substitute quarterbacks led their team to come-from-behind victories.

 

[Pompey-Cowboy]

Dak

 

[stilltheguru]

I love the logic some of you are using.

2014 Romo rating 146.6. ("Romo chokes in the playoffs")

2022 Prescott rating 63.6. ("It's everyone but Dak's fault")

My goodness....

Why cherrypick stats?

 

[VaqueroTD]

AND - how uncanny were Longley's and Garrett's OHW games so simlar:
• Both occurred on Thanksgiving - exactly two decades apart (1974, 1994)
• Both backups were replacing an injured starter - Longley replaced Roger Staubach who was injured during the holiday game - and Garrett replaced Rodney Peete who was injured in the previous game on Sunday.
• Both substitute quarterbacks led their team to come-from-behind victories.

Almost unfair to lump Cooper in with them and his 4 game win streak.

 

[BaybeeJay]

Romo with Daks rosters.

Easy.

Which Romo? 2007 Romo would have some bad moments behind this line and run game.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Why cherrypick stats?

I love the logic some of you are using.

2014 Romo rating 146.6. ("Romo chokes in the playoffs")

2022 Prescott rating 63.6. ("It's everyone but Dak's fault")

My goodness....

They're so freaking uncanny close in stat timelines with their development, I don't even know why folks would try the cherry picking.

Really just comes down to which style you prefer, and assuming no major injury (knock on wood), Dak is younger and has more years to prove himself. Benefit of playing ball in the SEC.

2012 Romo's 7th season starting, led league in interceptions, MVP vote caliber by 2014 and leading/top3 in league in several stats. (did not include his backup years in this math)
2022 Prescott's 7th season starting, led league in interceptions. MVP Vote caliber by 2023 and leading/top3 in league in several stats.

Both athletic smart QBs that relied on it to overcome other deficiencies. Tony more of a gunslinger, wild man who panics with the blitz/man. Dak more of a conservative man who shells up when the zone coverage is right.
Dak better at running for downs and TDs, Tony might be better at pocket "squirming." LOL
Dak stronger arm, Tony more accurate. Just my two cents.
Neither one can get past the second round, and that's what limits their careers from ever going next level. At least as far as legacies.

 

[shabazz]

Romos football acumen and ability to stretch a play with Daks steadiness and reliability would be the best of both worlds.....but Romo by far was the more exciting player to watch.

But that doesn't equal playoff success so what the hell.

 

[stilltheguru]

They're so freaking uncanny close in stat timelines with their development, I don't even know why folks would try the cherry picking.

Really just comes down to which style you prefer, and assuming no major injury (knock on wood), Dak is younger and has more years to prove himself. Benefit of playing ball in the SEC.

2012 Romo's 7th season starting, led league in interceptions, MVP vote caliber by 2014 and leading/top3 in league in several stats. (did not include his backup years in this math)
2022 Prescott's 7th season starting, led league in interceptions. MVP Vote caliber by 2023 and leading/top3 in league in several stats.

Both athletic smart QBs that relied on it to overcome other deficiencies. Tony more of a gunslinger, wild man who panics with the blitz/man. Dak more of a conservative man who shells up when the zone coverage is right.
Dak better at running for downs and TDs, Tony might be better at pocket "squirming." LOL
Dak stronger arm, Tony more accurate. Just my two cents.
Neither one can get past the second round, and that's what limits their careers from ever going next level. At least as far as legacies.

He put daks game vs the niners against Romo and forgot the Tampa game. All time dak and Romo are .1 difference in qb rating. All time qbr dak is 83 Romo is 78. So based on actual data Dak is a better playoff performer.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Which Romo? 2007 Romo would have some bad moments behind this line and run game.

And I want that 3-4 that can't be outmuscled, MB3 who will pound SF, and young Witten as my starting TE for instant ball security.

The 'rosters sucked' for Romo are also selective memory. That offensive line had better healthy years with Romo than Dak. Didn't matter if it was Murray, Zeke, etc, that was Great Wall of Dallas Part II.

 

[starfan1]

Not arguing just asking a question if Leonard Davis, Gurode and Flozell were All Pros? That’s not a weak line.

columbo wasnt horrible either. I hear that all the time about his line where in fact the days of his Phil costo's and pat mcQuistons were few than when he had pro bowlers. I will say much like Dak he never seemed to get both at the same time. He had bad or average defenses or bad lines

 

[WillieBeamen]

He put daks game vs the niners against Romo and forgot the Tampa game. All time dak and Romo are .1 difference in qb rating. All time qbr dak is 83 Romo is 78. So based on actual data Dak is a better playoff performer.

Hes calling out the hypocrisy in the Dak Stanleys

They are yelling “Romo choked in 07 & 14” (his best chances at a ring) but give Dak all types of excuses when he loses a game.

We heard it all offseason.


Dak literally did a qb draw with no timeouts and tried to spot the ball himself lol. Imagine if Romo did some nonsense like that

 

[KJJ]

I’m convinced that those who loved Romo would have rather lost with him than win with another QB.

 

[jwitten82]

Hes calling out the hypocrisy in the Dak Stanleys

They are yelling “Romo choked in 07 & 14” (his best chances at a ring) but give Dak all types of excuses when he loses a game.

We heard it all offseason.


Dak literally did a qb draw with no timeouts and tried to spot the ball himself lol. Imagine if Romo did some nonsense like that

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I've never gave Dak excuses. I've blamed him for both those 49ers losses. It's Romo supporters like you and @erod , that can't provide any evidence that proves Romo is so much better than Dak

 

[jwitten82]

He put daks game vs the niners against Romo and forgot the Tampa game. All time dak and Romo are .1 difference in qb rating. All time qbr dak is 83 Romo is 78. So based on actual data Dak is a better playoff performer.

We can't use data to support our arguments, you have to use to the old eye test.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Well I can't speak for everyone, but I've never gave Dak excuses. I've blamed him for both those 49ers losses. It's Romo supporters like you and @erod , that can't provide any evidence that proves Romo is so much better than Dak

Dont run from other conversations we are having in other threads to come here and troll.

You said the Cowboys had nothing to play for last year week 18 and were proven wrong.

 

[jwitten82]

Dont run from other conversations we are having in other threads to come here and troll.

You said the Cowboys had nothing to play for last year week 18 and were proven wrong.

Lol you can't name any type of evidence in THIS thread. Funny, so what makes Romo so much better?