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Looks like only Josh Allen got a 1st place vote, outside of Patrick.We should get this stickied with how many people think Josh Allen got 2nd place…..
Looks like only Josh Allen got a 1st place vote, outside of Patrick.We should get this stickied with how many people think Josh Allen got 2nd place…..
No....no that's not what it looks like did you read the post?Looks like only Josh Allen got a 1st place vote, outside of Patrick.
He’s the only other player who received a first place vote, and yes he’s better than DP, but if waving the participation trophy is your thing have at it. I’m glad the op set you straight on how it works.We should get this stickied with how many people think Josh Allen got 2nd place…..
Nope, I didn't read the link. Don't really care truth be told.No....no that's not what it looks like did you read the post?
Bold> I am curious as well, since that since vote prevented Lamar Jackson from having a unanimous vote on the first-ballot equal to 500 total points. It is too bad voters' ballots are not published like those voting for NBA awards.Ah, so Dak didn't get a first place vote at all but had more 3rd and 5th place votes than McCaffrey. Wonder who voted for Josh Allen as the only other first place vote.
Oh. Ok.Nope, I didn't read the link. Don't really care truth be told.
MVP is not about who is "better". Dak got 2nd place. I don't know why it's bothering you guys so much....it's just a "participation trophy" yet you guys won't let it go lol.He’s the only other player who received a first place vote, and yes he’s better than DP, but if waving the participation trophy is your thing have at it. I’m glad the op set you straight on how it works.
Year | Lg | Pos | Player | Tm |
2021 | NFL | WR | Cooper Kupp | Los Angeles Rams |
2018 | NFL | WR | Julian Edelman | New England Patriots |
2015 | NFL | OLB | Von Miller | Denver Broncos |
2013 | NFL | MLB | Malcolm Smith | Seattle Seahawks |
2008 | NFL | WR | Santonio Holmes | Pittsburgh Steelers |
2005 | NFL | WR | Hines Ward | Pittsburgh Steelers |
2004 | NFL | WR | Deion Branch | New England Patriots |
2002 | NFL | FS | Dexter Jackson | Tampa Bay Buccaneers |
2000 | NFL | MLB | Ray Lewis | Baltimore Ravens |
1997 | NFL | RB | Terrell Davis | Denver Broncos |
1996 | NFL | WR | Desmond Howard | Green Bay Packers |
1995 | NFL | RCB | Larry Brown | Dallas Cowboys |
1993 | NFL | RB | Emmitt Smith | Dallas Cowboys |
1990 | NFL | RB | Ottis Anderson | New York Giants |
1988 | NFL | WR | Jerry Rice | San Francisco 49ers |
1985 | NFL | RDE | Richard Dent | Chicago Bears |
1983 | NFL | RB | Marcus Allen | Los Angeles Raiders |
1982 | NFL | FB | John Riggins | Washington Commanders |
1977 | NFL | RDT | Randy White | Dallas Cowboys |
1977 | NFL | RDE | Harvey Martin | Dallas Cowboys |
1976 | NFL | WR | Fred Biletnikoff | Oakland Raiders |
1975 | NFL | WR | Lynn Swann | Pittsburgh Steelers |
1974 | NFL | FB | Franco Harris | Pittsburgh Steelers |
1973 | NFL | FB | Larry Csonka | Miami Dolphins |
1972 | NFL | FS | Jake Scott | Miami Dolphins |
1970 | NFL | LLB | Chuck Howley | Dallas Cowboys |
Quarterbacks are the favorite for winning the award but teams have proven they can win the Super Bowl (or lose in the case of Chuck Howley) and have their teammate win MVP instead. Guess what I am trying to say it does not matter to me who wins the award as long as Dallas takes the championship hardware back home.I could care less about regular season awards at this point ....... only MVP I want Dak to get is Superbowl MVP.
Bold> I am curious as well, since that since vote prevented Lamar Jackson from having a unanimous vote on the first-ballot equal to 500 total points. It is too bad voters' ballots are not published like those voting for NBA awards.
Ah, so Dak didn't get a first place vote at all but had more 3rd and 5th place votes than McCaffrey. Wonder who voted for Josh Allen as the only other first place vote.
pot meet kettleMVP is not about who is "better". Dak got 2nd place. I don't know why it's bothering you guys so much....it's just a "participation trophy" yet you guys won't let it go lol.
If your focus is purely turnovers I’d be curious of what that number was while going 6-6 compared to winning final 5 games .I mean I’d rather have neither. One is a turnover prone quarterback who plays hero ball and the other is a run first quarterback who has improved ands passer but still not enough for me to want him as my quarterback.
And yes turnovers are important. Turnovers can be the difference in winning a game or not. Not sure how you “eye test” doesn’t notice all of them.
Oh he's not hiding. He admitted to how and why he voted Josh Allen.
He felt Dak and Josh Allen were more MVP worthy based on his DVOA stats.
turnovers are a critical stat; they can destroy momentum and seriously damage team moraleIf your focus is purely turnovers I’d be curious of what that number was while going 6-6 compared to winning final 5 games .
Well I'll be honest.....his approach I Can respect. I don't agree that Josh Allen was MVP but he backed his claim up and stands on it.which is exactly why these awards are really not worth all that when you see who is 'deciding' them
frankly the only value they have is in contract negotiations to get more then they should
I've said it means nothing lol. That's what's so stupid. People are in an uproar over 2nd or 3rd place lol...as if it discredits him to be 2nd or 3rd runner up. Just a silly thing to cry about but here you are.pot meet kettle
dak bots keep acting like it means something
Oh he's not hiding. He admitted to how and why he voted Josh Allen.
He felt Dak and Josh Allen were more MVP worthy based on his DVOA stats.
He had 13 interceptions his first 12 games. Had 5 interceptions in his last 5 games and 5 fumbles in his last 5 games. The guy is not protecting the football. Never has.If your focus is purely turnovers I’d be curious of what that number was while going 6-6 compared to winning final 5 games .
Yeah I don't agree with him on who should be MVP but I can at least respect he didn't take the "well the eye test" approach. He's doing what all voters should do and actually back their claim up. Stats don't tell it all of course but he backed his claim up well. Still don't agree but he has a solid argument.I do not think anyone with that hair could go into hiding. Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
I love this kind of in-depth explanation behind a thinking process, regardless whether I like it or not. In my opinion, it would be great if it did not take a controversy like this for more voters, of every sport, to be more open of their decision-making process.
FYI: Some of the feedback he momentarily described is pretty disgusting and pathetic. For that reason, I may edit your post in the future by removing the video and replacing it with a link. Just a heads up if other members take a tiny soundbite and attempt a run on a site rule or two. Or three.