Dak Prescott "Garbage time stats" Question

[LACowboysFan1]

Of coruse 2 of t hose fumbles were strips while trying to throw, which falls on the blocking.

Dak doesn't have great pocket awareness, one of the early fumbles he was trying to run and he had the ball in his hand like the proverbial loaf of bread, that's totally on him.

He needs to have better ball security....

 

[Denim Chicken]

Not one game ending pick, but back to back game ending picks...just for clarification

Sorry, but the Browns game was over when the defense let OBJ score the last TD.

 

[Scotman]

I've never been a believer in "garbage time stats." That's just a reason to dismiss part of the game.

If the game hasn't ended, every play is important. I've been a fan all my life. I watch every game until the clock is done. Even when we have a big lead, not allowing the other team to move the ball is still important....even as a fan. You can't tell me that the competitive players on the field are just ok with another team moving at will. No one likes to get embarrassed at any level for any length of time. Sure, the scheme may dictate less risk/reward play calls...and the stats change as a result. But it isn't garbage time. The whole game is important.

Would we call our one win of the season's stats garbage time if the onside kick wasn't recovered? Were they garbage time stats if we lost? Do the stats only count if we win? Do they only count is the scoreboard is close?

"Garbage time" is a term used only to help support weak claims and opinions. Good or bad, the whole game counts.

 

[Swagger]

No. 3 ints in 4 games, and as noted 2 of those were desperation throws that are more likely to be picked. Wentz has 7 ints. Dak has 3 fumbles, Wentz has 4.

There are many other quarterbacks with more than 3 ints, Brady, with over 20 years in the league, has 4. Cousins has 6.

If Dak's a turnover machine, those guys are turnover industries...

Wentz has been way below the level he previously showed and looked awful at times this season but his wide receiving Corp and o line has been decimated. It's not like he's a progress stopper in an otherwise excellent offense. It's an all round struggle for them.

Yes our o line is banged up but we still have two 1st round receivers and a legit WR2 playing.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Score was tied. Dak gets stripped sack by garrett. they down 21-14 then next offensive play zeke fumbles then they score again and its 14-28. I mean at that point you have to do what you can to get back in the game. Then of course the defense gave up the next 21 points without any short fields lol. You can hang 14 points on the offense but the defense themselves gave up 35 points lol

its clear that these "offense" critics, are aiming for Dak in their own smart round about way (wink wink). no QB, or offense in the league is perfect. every offense, including KC will have bad plays, bad series, bad stretches, bad quarters. its inevitable, so these guys will always have some fodder to complain about. but one thing has become CLEAR based on their responses and posts, they expect perfection. anything less than perfect will get scrutinized to no end.

I have told them again and again, but given that it destroys their agenda, they ignore. Brady threw a pick 6...not just a turnover. but pick 6, yet they won? why, their defense held the other team to 31 points and if our defense could do just that we would be 3-1

 

[Hennessy_King]

Sorry, but the Browns game was over when the defense let OBJ score the last TD.

Yup. I almost threw up my lunch. Never been more disgusted in my life

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I love unc shay but the score was tied 14-14 for all of 3 seconds not 3 drives.

Hey, Einstein didn't we get the ball back after every Brown's score?
Where was Franchise Dak?
NOWHERE till Garbage time came around...

 

[Aviano90]

Dak and Romo are literally functionally equivalent. Good QB's. period, full stop Nothing more.
For them to win a SB, they need to pull an Eli Manning, Brad Johnson. In the era of Elite QB's neither one of these guys can win a SB.
Dak will never be as good as the elite guys... just wont happen

I totally agree with that. Both QBs are neck and neck. But hard to get people to admit that or to judge both QBs with the same standards.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Wentz has been way below the level he previously showed and looked awful at times this season but his wide receiving Corp and o line has been decimated. It's not like he's a progress stopper in an otherwise excellent offense.

Yes our o line is banged up but we still have two 1st round receivers and a legit WR2 playing.

there lies in the problem. wentz never showed anything before....its just that Dak detractors put him on a pedestal to knock Dak....I never thought wentz was that great over the past few years.plus he is injury prone and will probably end up on the bench sometimes this season.

and to your second point. with those recievers, we are making the pass plays. the shoddy OL can't block, can't run block, can't really pass block and thus we have seen a couple of strip sacks, as the tackles have sucked egg really bad for a couple of games. so not sure what you expect....

and so tell me why you haven't made one criticism of defense...historically bad defense.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Hey, Einstein didn't we get the ball back after every Brown's score?
Where was Franchise Dak?
NOWHERE till Garbage time came around...

By time dak got the ball back it was 28-14. Then dak got us back within 3 points for the high school defense to give up a 50 yard td run. If the defense made one freakin stop who knows what happens.

 

[OmerV]

Dak doesn't have great pocket awareness, one of the early fumbles he was trying to run and he had the ball in his hand like the proverbial loaf of bread, that's totally on him.

He needs to have better ball security....

Sure, if he loses one in that kind of situation that's on him.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

By time dak got the ball back it was 28-14. Then dak got us back within 3 points for the high school defense to give up a 50 yard td run. If the defense made one freakin stop who knows what happens.

Ok, 28-14 nothing a top 5 QB cannot overcome?
Again I ask where was Garbage Prescott?
Waiting for Garbage time to pad his stats!!!!

 

[phildadon86]

If you want to shy away from reality that’s your choice. Those turnovers are the main reason why this team is 1-3. Giving good teams gifts is not a way to win in this league.

You cant say shy away from reality and then give the defense a pass. lol. The turnovers were bad yes but allowing a team to run for 300 yards is much worse.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Ok, 28-14 nothing a top 5 QB cannot overcome?
Again I ask where was Garbage Prescott?
Waiting for Garbage time to pad his stats!!!!

Prescott was 10-11 173 yards and 2 tds at the end of the first quarter when we were up 14-7. Which the defense let the browns march down the field and score 14-14. Strip sack on dak (terrible play call) 21-14. Zeke fumble 28-14. The defense is paid to STOP the other team.

 

[OmerV]

Ok, 28-14 nothing a top 5 QB cannot overcome?
Again I ask where was Garbage Prescott?
Waiting for Garbage time to pad his stats!!!!

That's a nonsensical comment because the Browns didn't stop at 24 points. The Cowboys offense overcame 24 points. What they couldn't overcome was 49 points. It's ridiculous to act as if overcoming a deficit has nothing to do with the defense, but that just further shows how incredibly irrational you are about Dak..

 

[75boyz]

Hey, Einstein didn't we get the ball back after every Brown's score?
Where was Franchise Dak?
NOWHERE till Garbage time came around...

But..but...but, lol!

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

this doesn't change the fact that the defense has problems stopping anyone. in the first 8 possessions they gave up 7 scores. and its not like the dallas offense is unique in having turnovers....all other teams do, so lets not look at it in silo. but other teams, defenses make a stop or 2 along the way. and did you notice, when the defense actually made stops in the late 3rd and 4th quarter, the offense got back in quickly and scored......

Brady and tampa offense threw a pick 6. not just a turnove. a pick 6. but they won...why? because their defense held the other team to 31 points. imagine if our defense could do that...we would be 3-1.

and no matter how you try to dice/slice and spin this. the game was within 3 points with about 4 minutes to go.....and defense gives up 1 50 yard run to a WR at that....seriously....this loss was all on defense....can't spin it any other way.

btw, many teams, week in week out, go a quarter or two without scoring....or even just score 3 points in two quarters, yet they win.....

and why are we dismissing the fact of the offense in the first quarter. getting 200 yards. scoring 14....is that what you expect the offense to do every quarter? every game. score 10-14 points every quarter for this team to have a chance.


seriously

This is your defense of the offense - “ all teams do this” - did the Tampa Bay Bucs turn the ball over in 3 games on back to back possessions? Yea the defense sucks thanks to a combination of lack of talent and injury but your slavish devotion to the offense putting the defense in bad spots is laughable. Three weeks in a row this offense has coughed the ball up and put the defense in a bad spot, three weeks in a row that has led to the team getting behind early. Hell the game against the Browns and Seahawks was almost identical, first quarter start off and the teams each score, game is tied and the Cowboys have a chance to go into half time tied or up if they hold on to the ball and score. They cough it up and go down to the Seahawks, then come out in the 3rd and proceed to turn the ball over in the first possession. Same thing against the Browns, two quick turn overs in a blink of an eye you go from 14-14 to 28-14. Whip on the defense all you like but at what point do you hold the offense accountable or is that not allowed in the era of Saint Dak?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Prescott was 10-11 173 yards and 2 tds at the end of the first quarter when we were up 14-7. Which the defense let the browns march down the field and score 14-14. Strip sack on dak (terrible play call) 21-14. Zeke fumble 28-14. The defense is paid to STOP the other team.

Again I ask....Where was our leader Mr. Prescott when the Browns went from 28 pts (7 points a gift fumble from Dak) to 41?
5 drives 78 yards 5 first downs and 1 fumble....then he becomes a hero down 27 pts in the 4th Q Garbage time as the Browns defense is watching the clock and thinking what they're going to do when they get home???
You know what's pathetic the above scenario is one of many the last 3 years!!!!

 

[Hennessy_King]

This is your defense of the offense - “ all teams do this” - did the Tampa Bay Bucs turn the ball over in 3 games on back to back possessions? Yea the defense sucks thanks to a combination of lack of talent and injury but your slavish devotion to the offense putting the defense in bad spots is laughable. Three weeks in a row this offense has coughed the ball up and put the defense in a bad spot, three weeks in a row that has led to the team getting behind early. Hell the game against the Browns and Seahawks was almost identical, first quarter start off and the teams each score, game is tied and the Cowboys have a chance to go into half time tied or up if they hold on to the ball and score. They cough it up and go down to the Seahawks, then come out in the 3rd and proceed to turn the ball over in the first possession. Same thing against the Browns, two quick turn overs in a blink of an eye you go from 14-14 to 28-14. Whip on the defense all you like but at what point do you hold the offense accountable or is that not allowed in the era of Saint Dak?

NE turned the ball over twice and only gave up 19 points to the cheifs.

 

[nobody]

95% of people have picked their side and and sticking to it... there is no rational debate... the other 5% sees his flaws and strengths and just sit back shaking their heads and how ridiculous both sides look.

Dak's not the problem.