Dak Prescott Is Going To Reset The QB Market

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I didn’t need to mention Mahomes he wins championships. No one is saying not winning a championship is acceptable. Regardless of what everyone thinks of Dak, he gives us a chance. If you’re making the playoffs consistently, you have a chance.
Jordan Love gives you a chance too. So does Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Brock Purdy.

You don’t need to spend this kind of money to get where we get.

Dak runs the system well and is a great front runner.

If it’s a shootout in a big game he crumbles.

So the team has to be so good that we are always front running but somehow we have to build this epic team with limited resources due to our QB, soon to be WR, and soon to be DE making max deals.

LMAO.. SPOILER ALERT: More of the same incoming.
 

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This year has all the signs of a complete disaster.

1. 1st place schedule
2. AFC north
3. Drama all over the locker room
4. Lame duck HC
5. Pressure to preform after the playoff embarrassment.
6. Never a repeat division champ.
7. Dak’s extension causing even more friction.
8. Jerry being Jerry and selling false hope

8-9 sounds like the ceiling.
number 3, players know they are not getting paid because of the choker. their chance of getting paid dwindles.
 

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Jordan Love gives you a chance too. So does Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Brock Purdy.

You don’t need to spend this kind of money to get where we get.

Dak runs the system well and is a great front runner.

If it’s a shootout in a big game he crumbles.

So the team has to be so good that we are always front running but somehow we have to build this epic team with limited resources due to our QB, soon to be WR, and soon to be DE making max deals.

LMAO.. SPOILER ALERT: More of the same incoming.
but they all have real GMs with great teams around them. Brock has McCafrrey, we have Pollard. Hurts and Niners have top defenses. not smoke and mirror defenses that give up 200+ rushing yards during the season. give me a real GM and we are in CCG at least a couple of times in the past 10 years.
 

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Honestly, based on last year schedule strength and the way the defense played during the regular season Rush gets us to the playoffs as well.

Definitely not 12 wins or as flashy stats though but same one and done

"the defense carried Rush, but they couldn't carry the choker" "We had the worst defense in the NFL, don't look at the turnovers and TDs off them." "And the worst offensive line" "Coaches, GM, and mascot" no other QB has it that bad. smh. :facepalm:
 

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Honestly, based on last years schedule strength and the way the defense played during the regular season Rush gets us to the playoffs as well.

Definitely not 12 wins or as flashy stats though but same one and done
probably not. when rushed played defense averaged 13.5 per game and scored a couple of times. in comparison, last year ravens defense averaged 16 points a game. our defense averaged 18.5. the first time we gave up more than 20 points with Rush at the helm, we lost. so doubt if Rush gets us to playoffs. our offense averaged 30 points a game last year, with rush we averaged 20. yeah, people are enamoured with our record with Rush, but forget that he wasn't the reason we won, it was the defense. give me a defense that can average 13.5 a game. we will have a superbowl trophy.
 

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"the defense carried Rush, but they couldn't carry the choker" "We had the worst defense in the NFL, don't look at the turnovers and TDs off them." "And the worst offensive line" "Coaches, GM, and mascot" no other QB has it that bad. smh. :facepalm:
the first part is true. the second part is not. there is no denying the defense carried rush. they average 13.5 points per game. first time we gave up more than 20, we lost.

the second part is not true, defense did help choker. there is no denying that offense was better with choker than Rush. there is zero argument there.
 

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Did he, or did he not orchestrate those two play-off comeback wins? The whole point is that in play-off runs, at some point, your QB has to stand up and take the team on his shoulders......Yes sometimes you win, sometimes you lose or sometimes, like Dak, you physically look as if you've capitulated.

I just dont get, how, if he hasnt done it all ready (with a moderate CAP HIT) giving him more of a CAP% improves the rest of the roster to help him from trailing in games.
true, but outside of mahomes any QB needs to have parts in palce. Mahomes couldn't overcome the OL issues in superbowl against Tampa. scored 9 points. so he just can't expect them to do everything. but when parts are in place, a good QB will make things happen and win. if your defense gives up 250+ yards rushing, you probably have a fat chance of winning. with that said, this team, Dak, coaches, CD, Parsons, Lawrence, all of them CHOKED against GB. none of them were ready. they all sucked.
 

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probably not. when rushed played defense averaged 13.5 per game and scored a couple of times. in comparison, last year ravens defense averaged 16 points a game. our defense averaged 18.5. the first time we gave up more than 20 points with Rush at the helm, we lost. so doubt if Rush gets us to playoffs. our offense averaged 30 points a game last year, with rush we averaged 20. yeah, people are enamoured with our record with Rush, but forget that he wasn't the reason we won, it was the defense. give me a defense that can average 13.5 a game. we will have a superbowl trophy.
You don’t think Dak coming back and throwing INTs at a quick enough pace to lead the NFL by seasons end had anything to do with the defense being worse when Dak came back?
 

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What in the flying...

Dak has been surronded by endless talent. He's had a top tier OL majority of his career or range in the top 10, multiple 1k recievers, premier running game, vastly improved defenses bar that stupid run stopping game. Some of these he's had all in the same year or a combo of stuff. Majority of quarterbacks would kill to have this much talent around them.

Everyone with two working brain cells knew Strafford was better then Dak. Can't compare the situations at all.

Bar the bucs game Dak has done absolutely nothing in the playoffs until it was to late. Even comparing him to Romo in the post season as they have similar records is laughable and just shows who knows nothing about football besides fave value stats.

Completely different argument can be had if Dak has played average / good in the playoffs and we still lost. Then we could look at surrounding talent. But not when your QB has been a MASSIVE problem himself.

No idea how a team could go out and break the bank on someone who after 8 seasons has shown little in the postseason but hey if you're happy with 12 win seasons and stats good for you. Jerry has you sucked up into the loser country club mentality


End rant....fun to debate like this but we all know the cowboys will win nothing as long as Jerry is still in charge. That's the true problem
endless talent like Gallup? or Steele? do you think Steele is a top OL talent? do you consider Biadasz top OL talent in NFL? seriously. I am not saying the cupboard is empty, but endless talent is just being way too dramatic.

and yes, Dak has come up short. no denying that. he has had enough talent to win. he hasn't. why? because he is not mahomes, or Burrows. he is what he is. he is limited as a QB. top 10? yes. but not good enough. no denying that.

Stafford is better than Dak. he was the top talented QB coming out in the draft and an almost no miss QB. #1 over all pick.

Romo sucked in playoffs too. he choked multiple times. so both Dak and Romo are not much different. which suckee do you perfer over the other is a personal choice. results were the same. you can't deny Romo choked against Giants in playoffs having #1 seed, playing at home. scoring 17 points. but people who favor romo make excuses.

the problem is our wonderful, brilliant, once in a couple of generation GM hasn't been able to put a winning product on the field.
 

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You don’t think Dak coming back and throwing INTs at a quick enough pace to lead the NFL by seasons end had anything to do with the defense being worse when Dak came back?
wow, such a one track mind. I say Sky is blue, you say Dak likes blue, so you must be defending Dak. I say Horses, you say dak has a cowboys hat, he must like horses, you are defending Dak.

facts don't change. defense gave up 13.5 points per game. close to all time best. the defense scored (is that because Rush didn't throw interceptions!!!). and what about this year, when Dak had 9 interceptions. defense wasn't all time best. what about years before? and still yet, the offense was much better with Dak. in points and all, despite the interceptions.

btw, your logic falls apart further. Allan had 18 Interceptions this year, Bills were 4th in points against. they won 11 games.
Stafford had 21 interceptions, they won the superbowl

you are the only person (maybe two others perhaps) who think Rush is a good QB. that tells us one of two things, either you have an agenda or your football knowledge is limited.

this doesn't mean I want to keep dak, extend dak or defend dak. just the fact that dak >>>>>> rush.
 

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wow, such a one track mind. I say Sky is blue, you say Dak likes blue, so you must be defending Dak. I say Horses, you say dak has a cowboys hat, he must like horses, you are defending Dak.

facts don't change. defense gave up 13.5 points per game. close to all time best. the defense scored (is that because Rush didn't throw interceptions!!!). and what about this year, when Dak had 9 interceptions. defense wasn't all time best. what about years before? and still yet, the offense was much better with Dak. in points and all, despite the interceptions.

btw, your logic falls apart further. Allan had 18 Interceptions this year, Bills were 4th in points against. they won 11 games.
Stafford had 21 interceptions, they won the superbowl

you are the only person (maybe two others perhaps) who think Rush is a good QB. that tells us one of two things, either you have an agenda or your football knowledge is limited.

this doesn't mean I want to keep dak, extend dak or defend dak. just the fact that dak >>>>>> rush.
So INTs don’t hurt the defense is what you’re saying? Extra possessions because your QB can’t protect the ball isn’t bad for the defense is what you’re saying?
 
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