Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

[MountaineerCowboy]

So was Matthew Stafford....and he won a ring.

If Dak wins a ring then that comparison will be relevant.

Until then...

 

[CowboyFrog]

So was Matthew Stafford....and he won a ring.

I mean all they added was Stafford..lol. The comedy comming from this notion is great, now that Stafford lost the "JAGS" they also added why is he not lifting the rams to another SB?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The only "Hate" is in your social mentally challenged brain of yours.
GL with that!

Have you seen your Twitter? Talk about mentally challenged.........

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I don't care lol. I said the Buccs suck. I didn't say anything about them not beating us. Let me guess if they beat the Cowboys that must mean they are good of all sudden? They are a piss poor team and if the Cowboys lose to them they've failed.

Well they've already beaten the Cowboys this year soooooo

They've failed?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I mean all they added was Stafford..lol. The comedy comming from this notion is great, now that Stafford lost the "JAGS" they also added why is he not lifting the rams to another SB?

He stinks but he's been hurt lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well they've already beaten the Cowboys this year soooooo

They've failed?

It was the first game of the season. Cowboys stunk then. They've gotten better since then. Eagles were good so you probably forgot or wasn't paying enough attention.

 

[GoldenR]

Counterpoint, the drafted QB would be sitting for about 2 years. Additionally, Dak hasn't played a full season since 2019, and he was injured for the last two games that he played. So, he may get a few regular seasons in each of those seasons to put to practice what he has learned. This opens the door for him to develop with game activity as well. Plus, Mike has been very good with QBs. So, coaching shouldn't be an issue. Thus, we will have a legitimate way after two seasons of sitting to see if that QB can replace Dak after two years, or if we need to make any trades.

Good point. The sad thing for me is the way Our D was playing, I thought this might be the year an avg. QB such as Dak could get us a couple wins. It's the complete opposite for me now watching these guys play defense.

 

[CowboyFrog]

My theory on that is Tom is just that good and can read a D like no other. He knows EXACTLY where to go with the football. Rogers is a complete narcissist and has not been the same since the green room debacle! I don't believe he prepares anywhere close to Tom or he would have another Superbowl. Tom won many Superbowls with NUMEROUS players and personnel. Though some believe it was Belichick.

He did and with great defense, no doubt he is great, but be honest your telling me if i swap A-Rod and TB12 and nothing else..GB becomes NE of that run and NE becomes GB? I dont buy that at all sorry.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's a QB driven league whether you like it or not. Does he make plays or doesn't he. Without Rogers, Mahomes, Allen, Brady, Herbert, Burrow, and Lawrence, those teams would be bad. See Commanders, Jets, Carolina, and all those teams that can not find a QB. Going by your theory, those TEAMS should be good, right? Just stop, you lost.

My "theory" was the best teams win. So why in the hell would you use the Commanders, Jets and Carolina as "good teams"? What are you confused about?

 

[G2]

They didn't bench Carr because of some arbitrary number of int's, it's because he's had several complete meltdowns and backbreaking losses this year and they've completely lost confidence in him. Not sure why you keep comparing the int's when you could be comparing the tds (identical) and wins (more for dak/cowboys) in 5 less games. Overall premise of the thread I don't necessarily disagree with, but the Carr situation is a terrible comparison.

That's all they have. Notice the total number of INTs is mentioned, but never the realistic cause & outcome of each.

 

[GoldenR]

He did and with great defense, no doubt he is great, but be honest your telling me if i swap A-Rod and TB12 and nothing else..GB becomes NE of that run and NE becomes GB? I dont buy that at all sorry.

So quickly winning a Bowl with Bucs and playoff entries was just a fluke? And yes, I believe Tom makes the Packers a better team for the last 20 years and wins Superbowls, definitely. This will never be proven, so there's only opinions and speculation.

 

[Runwildboys]

Dak over Dallas fans only want to watch Dak play.

They couldn't care less if the Cowboys actually do anything in the post season or not.

Who are these Dak over Dallas fans of whom you speak? I've never seen anyone write that they'd rather lose with Dak than win without him, though I have actually seen the reverse.

 

[GoldenR]

My "theory" was the best teams win. So why in the hell would you use the Commanders, Jets and Carolina as "good teams"? What are you confused about?

And my theory is those QB's I mentioned COMPLETELY change those teams. They all are playoff bound! What the hell are you confused about? They are not best teams cause their is no QB fooo!

 

[Runwildboys]

I'm a liar?

In the thread "If Cooper Rush beats the Eagles" you posted:



What's the point other than to prop up Dak while we were 4-0 at the time with Cooper Rush playing?

Go on though, tell us more about how you never tried to prop up Dak while Rush was playing and how you loved that we were winning with Rush.

It is possible to be glad that the backup QB is playing well, while also nothing that the QB #1 would probably be doing better. I mean, isn't that the point of a backup QB?

 

[MyFairLady]

So quickly winning a Bowl with Bucs and playoff entries was just a fluke? And yes, I believe Tom makes the Packers a better team for the last 20 years and wins Superbowls, definitely. This will never be proven, so there's only opinions and speculation.

IMHO there is zero doubt that they are better with Brady. Brady sets the standard for the entire team. With the Tampa bay SB win Brady has proven that he is the ultimate leader and CEO for a football team. Players respect him and will bust their butts to try to meet his standards. Rogers is an uber talented egomaniac. I bet his team mates can not stand him. He elevates the team with his play but he does not elevate the other players by setting the example and holding them accountable. Brady is the undisputed GOAT. It is like comparing Michael Jordan to Allen Iverson. Both incredible players with incredible skill sets. One also happens to be the ultimate leader and absolutely needs to win. The other is the ultimate egomaniac and absolutely needs to be the center of attention.

 

[catiii]

The Cowboys failure to do much of anything in the postseason for over a quarter century isn't the fault of Dak, Romo, or any other QB during that time.

There have been two constants.

aaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Good point. The sad thing for me is the way Our D was playing, I thought this might be the year an avg. QB such as Dak could get us a couple wins. It's the complete opposite for me now watching these guys play defense.

I do think that Dak is significantly above average. I think that, overall, he's one of the better QBs (note that I said better, not best) in the league. I would say top 10-13 is fair for him. I should note that, while his interception numbers are undoubtedly high this year, I do not think a lot of them have been his fault. As an example, the pick 6 that lost the game to Jacksonville was a good ball that was mishandled by Noah Brown. If he holds onto that ball, who knows? Perhaps we do drive into FG range for the GW kick? Then, assuming the rest of the season were to take place from there as it has, then this came comes down against Washington to determine if we win home field advantage or not.

The first interception against Tennessee, which did not matter but I'm using it as another example, was another one to where I do not think Dak is to blame at all. He threw a perfect ball to Hendershot who bobbled it.

Therefore, I think that Dak does get a lot of balls that he's thrown well that are intercepted because the WR/TE mishandled the ball. There are several that are undoubtedly Dak's fault. However, if our WRs were more consistent about performing the basic function of a WR, then I think Dak would be viewed in a higher regard. As it is, we sit here with a 2% chance of winning the top seed.

 

[CowboyFrog]

So quickly winning a Bowl with Bucs and playoff entries was just a fluke? And yes, I believe Tom makes the Packers a better team for the last 20 years and wins Superbowls, definitely. This will never be proven, so there's only opinions and speculation.

Ooh for sure its opinion, and TB12 is probably worth more in the playoffs than A-rod, the question is how much though. They are not 6 SB diferent in talent though, no way, its the teams they had there really is no other way to look at it. One had a top rated defense every year and one did not. There is a reason Jimmy G is one of the tops in playoff wins, now you can tell me you think he is that much better than other QB's but you would be hard pressed to prove it with anything that shows QB play.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Two more years sound about right realistically....that will give him 9 years total. If they still can't even get to the NFC Championship Game then you have to change it up, whether it's directly his fault or not. Not sure how many starting QBs in NFL history have remained in that role for almost 10 years without at least getting to the conference championship.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Who are these Dak over Dallas fans of whom you speak? I've never seen anyone write that they'd rather lose with Dak than win without him, though I have actually seen the reverse.

You've never seen anyone say they want Dallas to fail in spite of Dak either, but I don't see you calling the posters that claim that out.