Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

[Risen Star]

This could back fire so bad for you lol

One of those "chumps" was the Cowboys.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Yet, you keep him in your mouth 24/7. That's the irony of the Dak haters. Y'all complain about him but talk about him 24/7.

The only "Hate" is in your social mentally challenged brain of yours.
GL with that!

 

[CowboyFrog]

sure it takes a team, but the team is mostly in place and is still avg as avg can be. Hell, In cincy they were the worst. Burrow shows up and bam in the SB and currently one of the best teams in the NFL.

Colst were the worst team, got Peyton Manning and bam, SB contender for his entire career.
Bucs had missed the playoffs for 11 years, Brady Shows up and Bam, wins a SB.

Those are FACTS, has little to do with convenience.

The Bengals have added more than Just Burrow, an upgrade at QB for sure no question, but last year showed that if you ignore your OL it will eventually get you bounced. He has a legit defense and legit weapons all over the field.....

 

[GoldenR]

Teams win rings. If you think Pollard and Zeke can average 3 yards a carry like they have been and we will win? Well good luck with that. Y'all are caught up on game scripts. Maybe its because BSPN tells y'all we have to follow a script to win.

The best team wins. Cowboys need their best players to show up. Nobody has the pass. They need Dak to show up, Parsons, Pollard, Zeke....they need their best players to show up on the big stage.

It's a QB driven league whether you like it or not. Does he make plays or doesn't he. Without Rogers, Mahomes, Allen, Brady, Herbert, Burrow, and Lawrence, those teams would be bad. See Commanders, Jets, Carolina, and all those teams that can not find a QB. Going by your theory, those TEAMS should be good, right? Just stop, you lost.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

All the teams you named are not in the playoffs, so they would even take K. Cousins! Most on here are saying it's been 8 years! Time to go in a different direction after one playoff win.

The problem is that 1. We can't let Dak go yet because of his contract and 2. There's not a QB where we would be picking this year that could start immediately. I do think that drafting a QB by round 3 is a good idea because it gives us time to develop one. However, we cannot move Dak for two more years even if we wanted to do so. So, what I think is perhaps we draft one in round 2-3, and develop that QB for a season or two. Then, decide if we are keeping Dak beyond that or not. That way, we can determine if we are trading that QB. Naturally, there will be teams swooping in for a QB, and we could get an extra first round pick or two for said QB.

 

[Risen Star]

It already seems like he's been the QB for 15 years.

 

[diamonddelts]

I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.

The entire point of the game is to make money. It's a business.

 

[buddahjoe445]

Technically Dak only count for 6 full seasons because of the broken ankle. With that said Dak has the same amount of playoff success in 6 seasons as Drew Brees.... one playoff win in that time. Hell, it took Matt Stafford until his 11th, 12th season to get his first playoff win and he's a first round drafted quarterback.

With that said, I would give Dak one more season on this roster. Dak has to lead us deeper into the playoffs to get more time in Dallas IMO.

However, I would like to see Dak in an offense WITHOUT Kellen Moore running it. Dak has played well despite being handicapped by the dumbest offensive coordinator in all of football.

Maybe Moore has been handicapped by Dak. I'd like to see Moore with a better QB.

 

[GoldenR]

The problem is that 1. We can't let Dak go yet because of his contract and 2. There's not a QB where we would be picking this year that could start immediately. I do think that drafting a QB by round 3 is a good idea because it gives us time to develop one. However, we cannot move Dak for two more years even if we wanted to do so. So, what I think is perhaps we draft one in round 2-3, and develop that QB for a season or two. Then, decide if we are keeping Dak beyond that or not. That way, we can determine if we are trading that QB. Naturally, there will be teams swooping in for a QB, and we could get an extra first round pick or two for said QB.

AGREE! If we get bounced round 1, Jerry will defininely look QB in later rounds or at best bring in competition. The only problem with your post, which I agree with, our key players will be much older and now your talkin 5 years down the road we start competing for superbowls? Martin, Smith, d-Law, both safeties and many others are long gone.

 

[morat1959]

It already seems like he's been the QB for 15 years.

I feel your pain. I’m rolling!

 

[Proof]

Derek Carr never played for the Giants that was his brother David Carr. Derek Carr has been with the Raiders his entire career but will be gone after this season they already benched him due to 14 INTs, the same amount Dak has in 5 less games.

I'm just trying to be fair to Dak, I really would probably want 1 more season. But also getting rid of a QB does not guarantee another one will just come in and win. See how that's worked out for the Dolphins since Dan Marino left for example.

They didn't bench Carr because of some arbitrary number of int's, it's because he's had several complete meltdowns and backbreaking losses this year and they've completely lost confidence in him. Not sure why you keep comparing the int's when you could be comparing the tds (identical) and wins (more for dak/cowboys) in 5 less games. Overall premise of the thread I don't necessarily disagree with, but the Carr situation is a terrible comparison.

 

[shabazz]

Only 2?……..id give him at least 7

 

[CowboyFrog]

It's a QB driven league whether you like it or not. Does he make plays or doesn't he. Without Rogers, Mahomes, Allen, Brady, Herbert, Burrow, and Lawrence, those teams would be bad. See Commanders, Jets, Carolina, and all those teams that can not find a QB. Going by your theory, those TEAMS should be good, right? Just stop, you lost.

Are we talking playoff wins or just who is deemed a good team or bad team based on wins/ loss? Serious question, again take it back 10 years and I'm going to tell you A-Rod will not win another SB... would you say its because he is that much worse of a QB than TB12 or because they had diferent teams so the results were much diferent?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Rush could easily have done the same or better with the best surrounding cast in the league.
Rush isn't a long term NFL starter either

total fabrication of reality on your part. Rush didn't lead the offense to be tops in the NFL. in fact the offense was 27th in the league in almost all relevant categories specially scoring.

so no, Rush couldn't do the same, he wasn't even close.

and rush is barely a back up in the league...but I can see why you want to hold on to fools gold.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

AGREE! If we get bounced round 1, Jerry will defininely look QB in later rounds or at best bring in competition. The only problem with your post, which I agree with, our key players will be much older and now your talkin 5 years down the road we start competing for superbowls? Martin, Smith, d-Law, both safeties and many others are long gone.

Counterpoint, the drafted QB would be sitting for about 2 years. Additionally, Dak hasn't played a full season since 2019, and he was injured for the last two games that he played. So, he may get a few regular seasons in each of those seasons to put to practice what he has learned. This opens the door for him to develop with game activity as well. Plus, Mike has been very good with QBs. So, coaching shouldn't be an issue. Thus, we will have a legitimate way after two seasons of sitting to see if that QB can replace Dak after two years, or if we need to make any trades.

 

[bigE79]

I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.

Right or wrong, QBs and head coaches are judged by wins and losses in the playoffs.
This team is by far the best team we've had since 14, probably a little better because of the defense,so with that being said,there is no excuse for not getting to at least the championship game, anything else will be deemed a failure.I look at it this way, Joe burrow had one of the very worst ol in football last year and still made it to the SB,and people on here have the nerve to complain about our line.Like I said,no more excuses,get it done,show us your not an accident waiting to happen.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Right or wrong, QBs and head coaches are judged by wins and losses in the playoffs.
This team is by far the best team we've had since 14, probably a little better because of the defense,so with that being said,there is no excuse for not getting to at least the championship game, anything else will be deemed a failure.I look at it this way, Joe burrow had one of the very worst ol in football last year and still made it to the SB,and people on here have the nerve to complain about our line.Like I said,no more excuses,get it done,show us your not an accident waiting to happen.

after you cut your QB for losing playoff games, what are you going to do to a defense thats averaging 250 yards rushing against in the playoffs? I may like your plan i just need more information.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He's one of the best at throwing INTs.

That's for sure.

So was Matthew Stafford....and he won a ring.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This could back fire so bad for you lol

I don't care lol. I said the Buccs suck. I didn't say anything about them not beating us. Let me guess if they beat the Cowboys that must mean they are good of all sudden? They are a piss poor team and if the Cowboys lose to them they've failed.

 

[GoldenR]

Are we talking playoff wins or just who is deemed a good team or bad team based on wins/ loss? Serious question, again take it back 10 years and I'm going to tell you A-Rod will not win another SB... would you say its because he is that much worse of a QB than TB12 or because they had diferent teams so the results were much diferent?

My theory on that is Tom is just that good and can read a D like no other. He knows EXACTLY where to go with the football. Rogers is a complete narcissist and has not been the same since the green room debacle! I don't believe he prepares anywhere close to Tom or he would have another Superbowl. Tom won many Superbowls with NUMEROUS players and personnel. Though some believe it was Belichick.