Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

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Rush could easily have done the same or better with the best surrounding cast in the league.
Rush isn't a long term NFL starter either
Meanwhile when Dak stinks they'll say Kellen Moore needs to be fired.

Ya know, the OC of the #1 offense in the NFL. Yet their defense of Dak is "#1 OFFENSE IN THE NFL!!!".

Whatever takes heat off Dak's mistakes.
 

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Neither of them are entirely responsible for their teams' lack of postseason success. One is already a scapegoat, the other may soon follow.

Scapegoats make fans feel better, but they don't address the real problems. They only perpetuate them.

Yup

The real problem is Jerry n Stephen. Starts and ends with them. They got incredibly lucky with Romo and Dak but failed to do anything with them. Romo had all the talent and knowledge to win but they failed to support him with bottom level trash tier defenses bar a year or two.

Jerry n Co think Dak is some type of elite quarterback which he's not. Above average sure. Still the issue remains with the defense as I honestly don't believe the hype or bought into the early season success
 

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I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.
DAK is here he will receive an extension on his contract in two years. Right wrong or indifferent
 

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Rush could easily have done the same or better with the best surrounding cast in the league.
Rush isn't a long term NFL starter either
Also, it's beautiful that we went 4-1 with Rush this year.

You know some were hoping that we'd go 0-5 so they could really push their "Dak is so great that only he can win with this team" narrative.

The 4-1 stretch with Cooper Rush really ruins a lot of their desperate arguments.
 

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Dak over Dallas fans only want to watch Dak play.

They couldn't care less if the Cowboys actually do anything in the post season or not.
:hammer:Yep couldn't have said it better........Sick times are here and from the looks of things they ain't changing soonest!
This is the end result of GM Jerry and Sons.
 

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I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.
No. He shouldnt.
 

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Also, it's beautiful that we went 4-1 with Rush this year.

You know some were hoping that we'd go 0-5 so they could really push their "Dak is so great that only he can win with this team" narrative.

The 4-1 stretch with Cooper Rush really ruins a lot of their desperate arguments.

You still on this idiotic take? lol No one was cheering against Rush and the Cowboys. Went 4-1 would have loved 5-0. Only person around here whining about a QB has been you whining about Dak. Seems you want Dallas to fail so you can jump up and say see I told you so.? Which I know is fact because at the start of the season you told me that, you said I would be wanting Dak gone because he would play so poorly and this team would lose. You predicted this team below 500 and out of post season. All you have done is whine about Dak. Hell You can't come to this sight without your daily hits on Dak, yet we were obsessed with Rush losing? lol Man you are a joke.
 

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You still on this idiotic take? lol No one was cheering against Rush and the Cowboys. Went 4-1 would have loved 5-0. Only person around here whining about a QB has been you whining about Dak. Seems you want Dallas to fail so you can jump up and say see I told you so.? Which I know is fact because at the start of the season you told me that, you said I would be wanting Dak gone because he would play so poorly and this team would lose. You predicted this team below 500 and out of post season. All you have done is whine about Dak. Hell You can't come to this sight without your daily hits on Dak, yet we were obsessed with Rush losing? lol Man you are a joke.
Show me where I said I want Dallas to fail. Prove it.

I can find where you would boast up Dak anytime someone said Cooper Rush was playing well though...in fact, you'll admit to it.

Maybe you was okay winning with Rush, your posts at the time most certainly didn't reflect that though.
 

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Can we stop with this QBs win by themselves nonsense? Derek Carr has had nothing but one coaching and OC change after another, and usually cursed with a bad defense. It's a team sport. Fans simplify it to just the QB for their own convenience. It's easy.

Even Tom Brady hasn't won by himself. It's no coincidence that he had coaching continuity, and a top 10 defense, for years at New England.

Exactly, and it works both ways....stop this "Dak is putting the team on his shoulders" nonsense. That's what we hear from the Pro Dak crowd. It takes a whole team. But waiting 9 years for a player is a joke..,...who do you think he is? Jason Garrett?
 

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I'm comparing him to Derek Carr who I think is in the same range as Dak talentwise he was benched and is going to be gone after this season, this is Carr's 9th season. Dak in his 7th season threw the same amount of INTs as Carr this season in 5 less games. I'm not saying get rid of Dak now but if he doesn't win this playoffs or the next two it's time to move on. He'll be 30 next summer no team really keeps a QB for 15-20 years that doesn't win it just doesn't happen. At some point you have to show you can win a Super Bowl, that is the entire point of the game not regular season wins or TDs.
so the entire team will need to be cut in 2 years, correct? because this is team game if the team doesn't get to sb, cut them ALL!! that what that means daks not the issue, go back and dissect each payoff game and show me how the rest of the team played and then prove it was on Dak.. ok Internet GM keyboard expert. show me how daks is the issue, alone or even 25% responsible? so what we going to dial up a elite qb who can overcome poor team play and all the holes and mistakes mad in those bigger games?
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its hard to find good to great qbs, daks not elite but hes good to great had top offense nearly his entire career here, you ready for the possibility like Denver, jets, Washington, ny, Cleveland many other teams that taken decade to locate a starting qb let alone a top 10 qb and then gives up and pulls trade like Wilson and Watson and got what exactly? not better then Dak that for sure. the drafts not a guarantee either lie what SF did for trey lance and then has to go back to their old qb then now on another. you better have an elite defense, awesome STs and elite coaching to try and function that way. too bad Dak, who was better than Purdy his rookie year and many other rookie qbs, had an elite defense and better coaching because he most likely win a sb his rookie year, that offense showed up in GB, where was the coaching and defense? where was thta also agiant the rams, where was the run game, OL and run d last year?

we got lucky to find Romo and Dak without giving up much but that doesn't mean we wont be back to that huge gap between Aikman and romo where we had lie what 12 bad qbs ...

fans are very unappreciative and clueless to just how hard it is to find quality franchise qb,,

leave it up to the pros
 
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Show me where I said I want Dallas to fail. Prove it.

I can find where you would boast up Dak anytime someone said Cooper Rush was playing well though...in fact, you'll admit to it.

Maybe you was okay winning with Rush, your posts at the time most certainly didn't reflect that though.

You told me at the start of the season how I would change my tune on Dak and how this team would lose. So stop your BS, no one was against Rush that made up BS you keep throwing out there alone with your Dak over Dallas non sense. You come here daily to rag on Dak only person here with an issue about QB is you. Seem you are the one who would rather see this team lose than for them to win with Dak at QB
 

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Exactly, and it works both ways....stop this "Dak is putting the team on his shoulders" nonsense. That's what we hear from the Pro Dak crowd. It takes a whole team. But waiting 9 years for a player is a joke..,...who do you think he is? Jason Garrett?

I have yet to see anyone claim Dak is putting this team on his shoulder and carrying this team. I fully agree it takes a whole team to win, lose and 1 man takes the blame for a loss Dak
 

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You told me at the start of the season how I would change my tune on Dak and how this team would lose. So stop your BS, no one was against Rush that made up BS you keep throwing out there alone with your Dak over Dallas non sense. You come here daily to rag on Dak only person here with an issue about QB is you. Seem you are the one who would rather see this team lose than for them to win with Dak at QB
I guess I thought you weren't a Dak over Dallas fan. My mistake.

After seeing how you acted when Rush was the QB and how you don't care that Dak leads the NFL in INTS despite missing 5 games I guess I judged you wrong.

Did you did you not post Dak stats while he was hurt and we were winning with Cooper Rush anytime someone suggested that Rush was playing well?
 

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I have yet to see anyone claim Dak is putting this team on his shoulder and carrying this team. I fully agree it takes a whole team to win, lose and 1 man takes the blame for a loss Dak
yup no balance around here..i say if that the standard for dak then we should in 2 years without a SB appearance, blow it up Trade and or cut everyone and i mean all of them includes Parsons. do a fire sale, lets be bad for 3-5 years instead of winning b2b 12 + win season and playoff berths, fighting that supposed to be the best team in football for the division..

fans need something to talk about, they want to be top 5 in every draft to get players they covet, they want huge trades and big news daily they want hope to get back to being a playoff contender in 3-5 years with new team if we are lucky , yup blow it up to get back to where we are so they can have their new shiny QB.
 

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It would be 9 freaking years! , no freaking thanks. It is literally now or never.

If it didn't work for / with Dak in 7 there is no reason to think it will work in the 9th year. Besides, comparing to Carr is a low bar, Carr has a SB ring just because he was warming up the bench while backing Eli M with the Giants, but he never played a single snap that season, so unless you bench Dak and make him a backup of a SB winning QB there is no point in comparing.
And some quarterbacks that people think a way better never get a ring at all .
 
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