Dak vs Carr vs Cousins

[goshann]

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year , $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2024, Prescott will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a signing bonus of $80,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $43,382,647 and a dead cap value of $195,270,294.

Kirk Cousins signed a 4 year , $180,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including $50,000,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000. In 2024, Cousins will earn a base salary of $12,500,000 and a signing bonus of $50,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $25,000,000 and a dead cap value of $90,000,000.

Derek Carr signed a 4 year , $150,000,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including $28,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $37,500,000. In 2024, Carr will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a restructure bonus of $28,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $12,668,000 and a dead cap value of $62,800,000.

There really isn't that much of a difference between the 3 QBs in terms of overall impact but the salary difference is substantial.

What’s your definition of ‘impact’?

 

[5Stars]

Can always tell when your brain cramps up and you can't have anything else to say. It's time to break out the haters jargon. You're such an infant

You are such a "word"!

 

[erod]

Dak's contract afforded us a 4- year break from giving a crap because this team is going nowhere until he's gone.

 

[Shane612]

All three of them suck.
But Carr kicked Prescott’s arse….fo sho.
lol

 

[goshann]

What’s ur feeling on:
- Jordon Love
- Trevor Lawrence

More impact than Dak?

 

[Havic]

Dak is on the talent level of Mayfield, Carr, Cousins. Contract is awful no matter which way you look at it.

 

[darthseinfeld]

"Thise caliber guys"??


Scenario #2 is exactly what we're getting with Dak. Do you believe for even one second that Dak makes us a Super Bowl contender?

We could get as good as we're getting now for a helluva lot less and improve the team elsewhere

No. But ny point is the cheaper guys dont either. Id rather see them win, not get the same results and save money

 

[darthseinfeld]

Did he cool off last year?

He was good but not elite last year.

 

[bigE79]

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year , $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2024, Prescott will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a signing bonus of $80,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $43,382,647 and a dead cap value of $195,270,294.

Kirk Cousins signed a 4 year , $180,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including $50,000,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000. In 2024, Cousins will earn a base salary of $12,500,000 and a signing bonus of $50,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $25,000,000 and a dead cap value of $90,000,000.

Derek Carr signed a 4 year , $150,000,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including $28,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $37,500,000. In 2024, Carr will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a restructure bonus of $28,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $12,668,000 and a dead cap value of $62,800,000.

There really isn't that much of a difference between the 3 QBs in terms of overall impact but the salary difference is substantial.

Carr all day, every day.

 

[ATXSRT]

There’s context missing. Kirk Cousins got his deal coming off a AcL injury and missing most of the season and he’s 35 years old.

Derek Carr got his deal sucking in Oakland.

Dak got his as a All Pro.

You’re missing context which I’m sure is intentional.

Dak got his last contract last time coming off a total foot replacement. He still got the highest deal.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And Dak got his first deal after a bad injury. So what?

What relevance does that have to do with what we are discussing?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Completely different tiers of players. Cousins has been historically bad against good teams his career. After his injury (before that he looked like he could be elite), Carr has been a mid tier QB that hasnt been able to play at a high level with any consistency

Dak deserves his criticism, but this isnt it

Agreed and people know this but would rather be obtuse because of their bias against the guy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak got his last contract last time coming off a total foot replacement. He still got the highest deal.

What on earth does this have to do with anything? You guys don’t see the differene between a 27 year old and a 35 year old?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Does that change anything though? Sometimes its best to hang onto an assets and sometimes its better to sell high and buy low on a new one. The Cowboys made their decision, and thats fine, but its hard to argue that there is more than one way to do it when a lot of 2-0 teams are there with QBs that nobody wanted.

What do you mean does it change anything? I’m not justifying anything I’m simply giving clarification. Carr got that deal after he sucked. Cousins got his after tearing his ACL. It’s not the same. Bias’s be damned it’s not. And doing this after two weeks of football is nuts but you guys will learn lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He already won more than Dak dude.

Since when?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What’s your definition of ‘impact’?

Apparently going 2-0 lol.

 

[Kingofholland]

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year , $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2024, Prescott will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a signing bonus of $80,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $43,382,647 and a dead cap value of $195,270,294.

Kirk Cousins signed a 4 year , $180,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including $50,000,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000. In 2024, Cousins will earn a base salary of $12,500,000 and a signing bonus of $50,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $25,000,000 and a dead cap value of $90,000,000.

Derek Carr signed a 4 year , $150,000,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including $28,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $37,500,000. In 2024, Carr will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a restructure bonus of $28,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $12,668,000 and a dead cap value of $62,800,000.

There really isn't that much of a difference between the 3 QBs in terms of overall impact but the salary difference is substantial.

There's certainly more to the story than the contracts alone. The NFL is all about what have you done for me lately and Dak had a better year before his contract than Cousins and Carr did before theirs. Statistically Cousins and Dak are similar, while Carr is a bit behind. However, the biggest difference is regular season record where Dak is far better in. All this gets factored into contracts. With all that said even if one believes Dak is better is he worth 60 million more than Kirk and 90 million more than Derek? Not from what we've seen so far this season and I much rather took the chance and watched how the season played out before handing Dak a big contract. The ink has dried though and there's nothing that can be done now no matter how much you hate the contract or player. All there is to do is support the Cowboys and hope the contract works out.

Regular Season Record:

74-87
77-68
74-42

Rating

92.7
98.1
98.7

Playoffs

0-1
1-4
2-5

 

[Redline360]

Basically the same quarterback. Commanders team was a dumpster fire. Vikings OL for majority of his career was bottom tier however greatly improved his last two years. Still dont think they cracked the top 10. Besides one year they had some of the worst defenses in the nfl. Dak simply has had far superior supporting talent every year on both sides of the ball.

Cousins also willed that Vikings team into the playoffs in 2022 something Dak could never do imo.

Not sure if these stats include last year or not as I did these numbers awhile ago.

Dak: regular season career
99 passer rating
67 cmp%
5.2 TD% , 1.9 INT%
7.6 Y/A, 7.8 AY/A, 11.4 Y/C

Playoffs:
91.8 passer rating
64.5 cmp%
5.1 TD%, 2.5 INT%
7.1 Y/A, 7.0 AY/A, 11 Y/C

Cousins: regular season career
98.2 passer rating
66.9 cmp%
5.2 TD% , 2.1 INT%
7.6 Y/A, 7.7 AY/A, 11.4 Y/C

Playoffs:
93.7 passer rating
66.5 cmp%
3.2 TD%, .6 INT%
6.8 Y/A, 7.1 AY/A, 10.2 Y/C

Looking at the numbers they are vastly similar in almost all aspects with Dak being slightly better. Playoffs Cousins has better "face value stats" even with his first playoff game coming in at the end of the game and doing nothing.

Dak is nowhere near that much more then Cousins. Has put up similar numbers with terrible OLs and has had some dumpster fire defenses

Granted Cousins probably has another 2 maybe 3 years left in him imo.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

The thought of 4 more years of Dak is truly depressing....

 

[khiladi]

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year , $240,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $80,000,000 signing bonus, $231,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $60,000,000. In 2024, Prescott will earn a base salary of $1,250,000 and a signing bonus of $80,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $43,382,647 and a dead cap value of $195,270,294.

Kirk Cousins signed a 4 year , $180,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including $50,000,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $45,000,000. In 2024, Cousins will earn a base salary of $12,500,000 and a signing bonus of $50,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $25,000,000 and a dead cap value of $90,000,000.

Derek Carr signed a 4 year , $150,000,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including $28,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $37,500,000. In 2024, Carr will earn a base salary of $1,210,000 and a restructure bonus of $28,790,000, while carrying a cap hit of $12,668,000 and a dead cap value of $62,800,000.

There really isn't that much of a difference between the 3 QBs in terms of overall impact but the salary difference is substantial.

Cousins and Carr are better…