Dak wasn't that good last night **merged**

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What was impressive was Dallas last scoring drive to put the Cowboys up by 3 scores. Dak hit 5 or 6 passes moving the team down field for 89 yards eating up 8:23 seconds as Cowboys put the game away. Leaving NY with 5:45 left in the game down 20-3

that was a good drive. more of that.....even if we don't end up scoring. he was accurate. he stepped into his throws. he looked at his first and second and on one play his 3rd option and most importantly he threw with anticipation.

 

[silvrNblue]

Sigh... for all of you who don't truly delve into the numbers, read this little fact about week 2.....In week 2 of the NFL 19 quarterbacks threw for over 300 yards, but only 6 of them had victories.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

We are a different team from last season so you can't be thinking like that. If you are going to fairly evaluate this team then evaluate this version of this team meaning only what is done this season. With the exception of their first game, they are undefeated but you are calling it regression. If you don't accept that statement then you are looking for perfection. You don't just want wins, you want them to win a certain way.

there is no denying that he has regressed. everyone is making excuses for this year's team is different, but last year he was awful too. yeah yeah yeah zeke wasn't there...but we had a decent running game....then its zeke we need not Dak...and any other QB could simply accomplish the same thing.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He wasn't figured out, the read option and rpos are still live and well in the NFL, see Sunday night. He refused to run the read option in Washington. While in Washington he had one of the prettiest deep ball and a cannon. He wanted to focus on his intermediate game, but let his ego and cockiness take over, that's why he was benched.

RGIII sucked. not because of his ego, because he wasn't that talented. pretty deep balls mean nothing. there is a long list of QBs with strong arms and pretty deep balls. accuracy. reading the defense and throwing it with anticipation in tight windows. he was talented enough to be drafted 2nd over all...but he was not as good as advertised. nobody else signed him until desparate ravens.....

not benched because of his ego. there is plenty of egotistical players in the league and the coaches play them. RGIII sucked. end of story.

 

[kevm3]

he never had a defense like this and a running game like this or an OL like this, except for 2014 and we saw what he did....

so now, this gives you 10 years opportunity to come up with excuses for Dak...

What did he do, get knocked oit of the second round? Romo wasnt been any further than dak in the playoffs and that was with an 1800 yard run game, a younger pre injury dez, a younger witten and a better o line

 

[wrongway]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/19/d...vers-running-game-jason-garrett-scott-linehan

In 2016, Dak Prescott played under better conditions than any rookie QB in history, if not any QB period. His offensive line was a step beyond dominant, giving the Cowboys a commanding running game and its quarterback routinely clean pockets from which to throw. Defenses were still treating Dez Bryant like a No. 1 receiver, rolling safety help his way. That clarified Prescott's reads, presenting obvious one-on-one throws in other parts of the field. Underneath, Prescott had the ultimate security blanket in tight end Jason Witten, and a mismatch-maker in shifty slot ace Cole Beasley. On top of it all, Prescott was new, so defenses had little film on him. The young QB capitalized on these conditions, posting a 104.9 passer rating and guiding the Cowboys to a 13-3 season.

To outside observers, America’s Team had its franchise QB. But within the NFL, some of the old guard cautioned to pump the brakes. History suggested—nay, guaranteed—that those perfect conditions would not last. Prescott should only be evaluated once his circumstances normalized.

Sure enough, they have. This season, that offensive line has been less imposing without superstar center Travis Frederick, who is out indefinitely while he recovers from Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a disorder that affects the nervous system. Without Frederick, Ezekiel Elliott and the ground game has been, at least by 2016 standards, spotty. Defenses figured out last year that Bryant was washed up; they stopped rolling coverage his way, and so this offseason the Cowboys stopped employing him. He’s now out of football. So is Jason Witten, who retired to fill Jon Gruden’s vacant MNF seat. Beasley is still around, but as anyone with even a smidgen of football acumen suspected, he’s more dynamic as a third or fourth option.

These aren’t dire straits Dallas is in, they’re regular NFL “straits,” which is why the Cowboys’ record since 2016—10-8, including their 1-1 start this year—is almost perfectly average. Quarterbacks get paid to spin gold from “perfectly average.” Head coach Jason Garrett and offensive coordinator Scott Linehan must figure out how to help Prescott do that.

Any qb period? That's a stretch.I would say Bradshaw and Montana had far superior casts from owner, coach on down. Their results speak for themselves.Anyone care to tally all the hall of famers they played with? Not sure what Dak will be. Maybe just a bus driver. Time will tell.

 

[OmerV]

Any qb period? That's a stretch.I would say Bradshaw and Montana had far superior casts from owner, coach on down. Their results speak for themselves.Anyone care to tally all the hall of famers they played with? Not sure what Dak will be. Maybe just a bus driver. Time will tell.

In fairness, he said any "rookie QB".

 

[Hawkeye19]

It does get distracting.

I mean..

I have seen every QB this team has had from Jerry Rhome to DAK..

Don Meredith took 2-3 years before he clicked.

Aikman to 2-3 yeas once he beat out Steve Walsh.

Romo took 5-6 years and rode the pine for 4 years.

Staubach had to attend 4 years of TCs out of the Navy to get his shot.

None had DAKs rookie season.

And to keep comparing him to Hall of Fame players and legends is nuts.

It shows how many just care about the results and not the journey.

And they all have to take the journey.

So I want to win and I hope its with DAK.

But if not..well then..

next man up.

But I would like to see the fans just get behind him and stop the henpecking.

in the toughest sport there is..

DAK is going to do his best..

and that maybe enough.

Great speech

 

[Blackspider214]

Hmmmm, suggesting that having a #1WR and a dependable TE might be valuable is quite the epiphany. who woulda thunk it. I wonder if other teams have thought of this concept before.

So explain last year....Still had Dez and Witten.

The fact is, we miss the dominant OL we had in 2016. We can not and won't commit to the run to control the game. Dez or Witten is not changing anything.

 

[Roadtrip635]

And I wonder how many teams have a 3 headed monster team with Pro Bowl WR, QB and RB..?

Hmmm..

waiting for the answer..

nobody ?

Sort of tough to do that.

Most teams have a #1 WR, quality may be different, but they have someone a defense feels they need to roll coverage to, to take pressure off the other players and not give the defense an advantage. 3 ProBowl quality skill players is a different story. There's not one WR/TE on this team a defense respects, so they can stack the box because they don't worry Dak can beat them and he doesn't have a receiver that can beat them 1on1. That gives the defense a lot of options and doesn't force them into unfavorable matchups. We call ourselves a run first offense, but we can't run first. It's easy to say Dak, just has to make plays, but why not try to make it easier for him to make those plays by actually finding a quality WR/TE?

There are teams that have a "3-headed monster" Saints, Rams, Chiefs, Steelers, Chargers, Falcons. And there are a few borderline big 3 offenses, where having a quality RB and WR/TE is a big help to their QBs like Bengals and Jags. You don't expect an offense to get better without providing quality weapons. It was foolish to think that our passing game would improve going with the jag WR and nobody TE approach. Why would any team do that, especially with a young QB?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

At this point, can we just agree that Dak is who he is and just drop it?

Alex Smith and Blake Bortles struggled for a long time before putting it all together. 2018 is eight quarters old. The national media needs to give it a rest with this Prescott stuff.

As I said, he is who he is. He's Dak, not Patrick Mahomes. Who, I might add, still has plenty of time left to fall on his face, too.

 

[OmerV]

So explain last year....Still had Dez and Witten.

The fact is, we miss the dominant OL we had in 2016. We can not and won't commit to the run to control the game. Dez or Witten is not changing anything.

He said a #1 WR and a dependable TE would be valuable - he didn't say they are the only thing. As for Dez and Witten, both were well beyond their peak years last year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Man, can we cool it with the new Dak threads?

Romo was bashed on here mercilously. Dak will be even worse. Romo was in his prime and balling.

If some of these laughers dont have Tom Brady they cry. Yet the same clownies support Garrett or think Jeff Heath is a stud. Funny stuff.

 

[Cap12]

sure thing.... Aikman a HOF QB....was not really that good. it was all emmitt. OK, Aikman was a bus driver...go ahead and believe that...I tend to take Jimmy Johnson's words over an internet troll.... but I am sure you think Johnson was just an average coach....you are entitled to your opinion...even if you are a very small minority that thinks that way...you and Commanders fans.

Aikman was excellent and certainly a HOFmer based on his statistics and Postseason success. I don't think he was a bus driver. Some people have that opinion though and some of the facts that they used to base their opinions on have merit. I believe that Emmitt and the Oline drove those teams though. The Cowboys were 0-2 without Emmitt in '93. I know its a small sample, but at least for those two games, the team was not very good without him. Aikman could be simply brilliant in stretches and that is why I never felt he was a bus driver, but he usually did not carry the team the way that Staubach, White or Romo did at various times in their tenures.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

What is everyone's obsession with Dez? Does not having Dez perform like a #1WR for the last couple seasons mean we should never try to find another #1WR again? Like the article implies, while Dez didn't perform like a #1, teams still treated him as one which actually helps this or any offense really. Dez is gone man, let the hate go already.

Lol, it's hilariously ironic that the second posters with hurt feelings over Dak threads are the same incessantly complainers that were creating Dez thread after Dez thread.

 

[erod]

So explain last year....Still had Dez and Witten.

The fact is, we miss the dominant OL we had in 2016. We can not and won't commit to the run to control the game. Dez or Witten is not changing anything.

Easy. Teams figured out they didn't have to roll a safety to Dez. They figured out they could get away with loading up on the run.

That was the writer's entire point. It's been ugly offense here since.

 

[erod]

Man, can we cool it with the new Dak threads?

This is a national story by Sports Illustrated. This is the objective narrative on Dak now. That's telling.

 

[Roadtrip635]

So explain last year....Still had Dez and Witten.

The fact is, we miss the dominant OL we had in 2016. We can not and won't commit to the run to control the game. Dez or Witten is not changing anything.

The dominant OL is definitely missing, 2016 caught people by surprise and defenses started to adjust, but we didn't. Following that season, we largely stood pat and shuffled that OL around after losing a quality lineman. Witt is a warrior but his skills were diminishing, no attempt to get find or train a successor, defenses started to realize Dez wasn't what he once was and no longer needed the extra attention, we could have tried to upgrade TWill, but decided he was good enough.

Rams is an example, there's a reason they went after Cooks and didn't want to keep Sammy. Sammy is vastly overrated and doesn't warrant the same kind of attention a guy like Cooks does. Cooks improves their offense a way that Sammy couldn't. Granted, their coaching is much better, but, they also realized, they were good but there's always room to improve. They also sought to improve their already good defense. In the modern NFL, windows to a true championship run are much shorter than they used to be. You build your core through the draft, but to truly compete, sometimes you have to be willing to make other moves as well.

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

Neither Romo or Dak was an "Aikman type player". Both were better playmakers than Troy, but Troy was way more accurate than Dak and was more careful with the ball than Romo. Troy was arguably a bus driver with a big, accurate arm. In his hay day, he could make plays when neccessary, but for a while, he drove such an amazing bus that all he had to do was hand off to 22 and throw to 88 and 84 most of the time and good things would happen. With the line he had, nobody would touch him. When chinks started to appear in the "Great Wall" OL,, Aikman's lack of playmaking and his inability to stay healthy ended his career prematurely.

This is laughable .

Aikman is HOF . Aikman was a warrior .

Romo : Injury riddled , Bad Luck ( Dez No catch Catch ) : But Romo was a warrior.

Dak : Dak can't be compared to either above .

Dak is analogous to RG!!! or Tebow : Dak blows

 

[Roadtrip635]

At this point, can we just agree that Dak is who he is and just drop it?

Alex Smith and Blake Bortles struggled for a long time before putting it all together. 2018 is eight quarters old. The national media needs to give it a rest with this Prescott stuff.

As I said, he is who he is. He's Dak, not Patrick Mahomes. Who, I might add, still has plenty of time left to fall on his face, too.

How well would Mahomes be playing without Hunt, Hill, Kelce or Reid as his coach. Give him Linehan and take away Hill, Watkins and Kelce and it's doubtful he would have near the success he's currently enjoying.