Dallas Cowboys’ Kelvin Joseph is a person of interest in Dallas murder investigation

[TheMarathonContinues]

There is suspicion that he knew of the death of the victim due to social media likes.

Both the "not reporting" and hitting the likes button are going to be hard for him to explain based on when he approached the authorities.

If there was a time delay in coming forward, and there is suspicion he was aware of a homicide - I'm not a lawyer from Texas, but it doesn't look good to me.

Seems like a simple defense for not reporting earlier is "I was in fear of my life".....happens all the time.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What did the Cowboys see in this guy after interviewing him and seeing how he sounds? KJ sounds like a hood gangsta. What was Jerry thinking?

Huh? He's from Baton Rouge. He has a accent. There's nothing "hood" or "gangsta" about how he sounds....what's up with these generalizations? Al Capone was a gangster how did he sound? Or how does El Chapo sound?

 

[Cowpolk]

Huh? He's from Baton Rouge. He has a accent. There's nothing "hood" or "gangsta" about how he sounds....what's up with these generalizations? Al Capone was a gangster how did he sound? Or how does El Chapo sound?

Yep it is the Louisiana accent he sounds like the people he grew up around I have a very heavy Texas accent

 

[Pass2Run]

Who cares whose friends they were or how he knew them? That doesn't absolve him from being an accomplice to murder. The only way he gets out of this is if the other guys in the car agree in separate statements that KJ was just hitching a ride and had no idea what was happening...... or he cuts a deal to rat out the shooter......... which will probably kill his rap career.

Being an accomplice is usually reserved for cases where there's like another crime being committed. As far as we can tell, Joseph wasn't even involved in the fight, directly.

Maybe he was there. But that's not enough to slap him with assault.

Yes, I know someone will copy and paste some statute that theoretically fits your idea of how a law should be applied. But statutory law is inferior to case law, which we'd all have to be lawyers to apply and understand in this case.. and i'm not claiming to be one. I just know enough to know that statutes aren't the end-all application when it comes to the justice system.

He's done with this matter, as far as the legal system goes.

It comes down to what the league does. And I don't think they should do much to someone who cooperated to help police find the killers.

 

[Pass2Run]

There is suspicion that he knew of the death of the victim due to social media likes.

Both the "not reporting" and hitting the likes button are going to be hard for him to explain based on when he approached the authorities.

If there was a time delay in coming forward, and there is suspicion he was aware of a homicide - I'm not a lawyer from Texas, but it doesn't look good to me.

Maybe like button was a smoke signal.

You're ready to hang him. But I sense this guy has a better head on his shoulders than you're giving him credit for. He's not hateful. He's not aggressive. He's not violent. He's not disrespectful, he's not a hater..

People are just ready to hang him for being gullible enough to hang around the wrong people.

 

[Pass2Run]

Here's another video of this guy.

From 2020. He's not a bad dude. Just has the wrong people leaching on him.

He has some PTSD from watching his brother be killed. You can understand what he's been through if you take the time to look for it.

Otherwise, y'all are just judging based on speculation about someone you don't know.



I'm gonna throw one of his better music videos in here.. try listening objectively.. a novel idea, I know..

There's another title called "Gassed em Up" .. dude actually has some good music.

 

[Cowpolk]

Here's another video of this guy.

From 2020. He's not a bad dude. Just has the wrong people leaching on him.

He has some PTSD from watching his brother be killed. You can understand what he's been through if you take the time to look for it.

Otherwise, y'all are just judging based on speculation about someone you don't know.



I'm gonna throw one of his better music videos in here.. try listening objectively.. a novel idea, I know..

There's another title called "Gassed em Up" .. dude actually has some good music.

All posts in this thread are speculation except for the ones that do not speculate

 

[Motorola]

The wrong for death lawsuit is coming. He's going to lose that case.

I'm sure the "Wrong for Death" statue is passing into law at any moment.

Good catch. Even made me laugh.
Wrongful Death.

'Wrong for Death' ‐- looks like the title of a Jean-Claude Van-Damme movie.

 

[Pass2Run]

'Wrong for Death' ‐- looks like the title of a Jean-Claude Van-Damme movie.

Ooohh, lawd!

 

[Pass2Run]

Gotta admit...I dont know.

A proven troubled history(if there is one in KJ's case)...then finds himself in a moving car with multiple shooters and they do a driveby that kills someone?

Unless the kid is Deion Sanders talent wise...I might just do whats best for the kid knowing I have a chance every year to find a new talent...this kid has basically one shot.

Im not a computer program with no feelings(maybe I am but being lied to)...I get that business is business...but this kid needs some guidance

This kid is coachable, though.

Like I said, you can see he pays attention and has a decent head on his shoulders. People mistake his background for being dumb. The dude isn't dumb...He's just from poverty and lived in the segregated parts of friggin' Louisiana.. It's rough there. You can punish him, and show him the whole consequences. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he understand actions have consequences. He just happened to be in the wrong place.. sure, some of that was his fault for choosing to hang around the wrong people.. but this doesn't look like he premediated anything.. it was heat of the moment, impulsive move on the driver and person who shot.

Again, kid isn't a killer. He's just caught up with thugs who don't care about his future.. only how much they can leach from him.

I can appreciate your sentiments here, wanting to teach him something for his own good. But it's not like there's only one way to do that, and punishment of some sort is the way.. you can also reach out and show him some support other ways. And Jerry certainly has the means to do that.

I know we aren't baby sitters. But that's not the situation here anyway. We have a duty to help this guy get on the right track in life if we want him to be our best football player. We can mentor him.. We've failed with other players. But Joseph strikes me as the kind of player who would respond well to a little support from the team. He's our player. Let's back him. He's an asset.

 

[Captain-Crash]

smh, "he just happened to be in the killers SUV, with some bad guys, it wasn't his fault" yep watch the video of him when he came back, all the thugs were huddling around him. like he was the "bossman". oh, he was so scared of the hugs, he was probably hiding on the floor of the SUV when they whipped out their guns.
Any excuse to get some idiot back on the field, and "hey he looked almost good last year. We'd hate to lose another second-round pick". sorry dead guy, you couldn't play football for the Cowboys, cya.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Being an accomplice is usually reserved for cases where there's like another crime being committed. As far as we can tell, Joseph wasn't even involved in the fight, directly.

Maybe he was there. But that's not enough to slap him with assault.

Yes, I know someone will copy and paste some statute that theoretically fits your idea of how a law should be applied. But statutory law is inferior to case law, which we'd all have to be lawyers to apply and understand in this case.. and i'm not claiming to be one. I just know enough to know that statutes aren't the end-all application when it comes to the justice system.

He's done with this matter, as far as the legal system goes.

It comes down to what the league does. And I don't think they should do much to someone who cooperated to help police find the killers.

Being in the same restaurant or general vicinity is not the same as being in the same car. Do you get into cars with armed strangers ? Its an unlikely explanation.

All reports I've read , including the one on the Cowboys official web site yesterday, say the "murder investigation is ongoing." I'm not sure how you interpret that as meaning he is done with the matter. That's not clear at all. What is clear is that the Cowboys have to go into the draft with CB being a higher priority than before.

 

[Hawkeye19]

This kid is coachable, though.

Like I said, you can see he pays attention and has a decent head on his shoulders. People mistake his background for being dumb. The dude isn't dumb...He's just from poverty and lived in the segregated parts of friggin' Louisiana.. It's rough there. You can punish him, and show him the whole consequences. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he understand actions have consequences. He just happened to be in the wrong place.. sure, some of that was his fault for choosing to hang around the wrong people.. but this doesn't look like he premediated anything.. it was heat of the moment, impulsive move on the driver and person who shot.

Again, kid isn't a killer. He's just caught up with thugs who don't care about his future.. only how much they can leach from him.

I can appreciate your sentiments here, wanting to teach him something for his own good. But it's not like there's only one way to do that, and punishment of some sort is the way.. you can also reach out and show him some support other ways. And Jerry certainly has the means to do that.

I know we aren't baby sitters. But that's not the situation here anyway. We have a duty to help this guy get on the right track in life if we want him to be our best football player. We can mentor him.. We've failed with other players. But Joseph strikes me as the kind of player who would respond well to a little support from the team. He's our player. Let's back him. He's an asset.

I listened to the Player’s Lounge podcast and they mentioned reports from a source inside the organization that KJ has been immature, unreliable, and problematic.

And this is all before this latest tragic incident. Not exactly the picture of a “good dude” who is just “mixed up with the wrong people.”

 

[America's Cowboy]

How did he contribute, by just being in the car?

He didn't have a crystal ball with him, not one that told him the future, at least.

The cops did their job well in this case. That's not always the case. But it is here.

You say you happen to write about police investigations for a living?

Give it up. Just because you write about them doesn't mean you know how to properly evaluate them. Stick to writing about them, NOT opining (giving opinion as if factually correct) about them. It's clear you don't properly understand between right and wrong.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Jerry was looking at his game tape.

He might be from the hood, but he's a baller.

Stop with the high horse nonsense.




If it were up to some, the NFL would build its own prison, just to satisfy the blood lust of its fans.

Screw big hits.. someone has to be punished, industrial prison complex-style!

Shut it. These kinds of troubled players are bringing down this team and causing problems. You don't realize your way of thinking is bad and destructive. No one can be saved if they don't want to be saved.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Huh? He's from Baton Rouge. He has a accent. There's nothing "hood" or "gangsta" about how he sounds....what's up with these generalizations? Al Capone was a gangster how did he sound? Or how does El Chapo sound?

You tell me. Do you know how they sound? If you don't, don't bring it up. The point is this guy's style of speaking shows what kind of lifestyle he's a part of.

 

[LittleD]

They were only 3 people in the SUV. the two killers who kidnapped KJ.

There was no kidnapping. They were his long time buddies from the hood in Baton Rouge. KJ was their idol...Delusional!

 

[LittleD]

Seems like a simple defense for not reporting earlier is "I was in fear of my life".....happens all the time.

Fear from his long time hood buds...Realy! Maybe a defense but not likely to be believed by Texas Jury.

 

[LittleD]

I have briefly read posters talk about a "like" on social media but no one seemed to focus on it in conversation here. If you know more details and are willing to share...im interested.

I just dont think youre that awful of a person because you didnt squeal. There is a lot at stake...friendships, freedom, your hood turning on you for being a snitch...its a terrible situation to be in IF you were an innocent person in that vehicle.

I just dont know what the punishment should be for not coming forward IF innocent of pulling a trigger or egging things on.

I do...Phi Jamma Slamma. He'll fit right in that gang.

 

[terra]

I listened to the Player’s Lounge podcast and they mentioned reports from a source inside the organization that KJ has been immature, unreliable, and problematic.

And this is all before this latest tragic incident. Not exactly the picture of a “good dude” who is just “mixed up with the wrong people.”

I think this guy (pass2run) is from KJ's agent. Some truly ridiculous statements sound like things desperate agents say.