Dallas Cowboys’ Kelvin Joseph is a person of interest in Dallas murder investigation

[baltcowboy]

Sure, but I don't think they issue a statement about being a person of interest if he's already cooperating.
Police have enough info so this thing is going to unravel. We will get answers to most questions pretty soon would be my guess.

True. That also might be to get the other passengers to come forward as well. Joseph probably gave them everyone in the car. Detectives and DA’s office make deals. It’s like when the Cowboys tried to low ball Dak, Zeke, and Amari then Jaylon took the deal.

 

[slick325]

R.I.P. to Cameron Ray. Feel horribly for his friends and family. This incident was completely senseless. Horrible situation.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I just saw a better video of it on TMz. I could be wrong but it looked like someone was hanging out the passenger's window shooting over the top of the SUV?

https://www.tmz.com/2022/04/15/repo...ly-person-of-interest-homicide-investigation/

 

[BlueStar22]

Arrests made in this case after KJ spoke with police yesterday. If only he'd done the right thing a month ago.

 

[HungryLion]

The thing is it was a forced pick to appease their cornerback fetish. They flat out apologized for taking Micah at the day 1 press conference and told everyone they'd be taking a cornerback on Friday.

They absolutely had to have one except they didn't and it was proven when Joseph provided next to nothing as a rookie, just like their other day 2 cornerback Wright, yet the defense still took a giant leap forward with a real coordinator and pressure player.

Another wasted 2nd round pick from a front office without a clue.

Agree 100%. Corners like Brown and Lewis are more than adequate…….. if you actually have a good front 7.

 

[Ranched]

The fact that Kelvin Joseph was w/a crew that killed an innocent 20 year old kid & kept it quiet is enough for me. Weak!

The NFL needs to send a harsh message otherwise the NFL turned thug players will contine as if they're invincible!

 

[HungryLion]

Ray was NOT the aggressor, according to police.

Even if he was an aggressor of a fist fight, it’s a total punk move to then shoot the guy later.

I mean. A fist fight is one thing. Win or lose, everyone lives to fight another day.


Pulling a gun over an argument/fistfight is a total punk/scumbag move though.

 

[Reid1boys]

Texas law states that if he witnessed a murder and didn't report it, that's a Class A misdemeanor with up to a year in jail and a fine. If they can establish he was in the vehicle, they can get a warrant for his arrest. So it was in his best interest to cooperate. His lawyer just admitted that he was in the vehicle. Since his own lawyer admitted that, then it's likely the police already knew it and could establish it.

He waited weeks and didn't talk until he was a person of interest. They can charge him with at least failure to report it. So your argument might be cogent in other situations, but given the facts we know already about the case and what's been admitted, your argument is already outdated.

If you truly understand the law and how things work, you will know we can't really say much about that. Can you prove that he "witnessed," a murder? Can you prove, or do we know that he was aware someone died? You do know murder is a very specific term, yes? Is this particular case a "Murder," according to Texas law?

DETAILS matter, and we don't know details, and we don't know what his defense to any charges might be. So telling me that my "Argument," is outdated is incorrect.

I know my specificity to the details will get passed some people in here, but I went to lawschool, and there is a lot about this case we don't know. That Texas law you point to is not a slam dunk......it might be, but not off of the little bit of info released at this point.

You say he didn't talk until he was a person of interest. And your point? Maybe up till police contacted him there was nothing to talk about? Yea.....I could go that route as his attorney, and it would be up to prosecutor s to prove otherwise.

 

[Rayman70]

i doubt he would claim to be unarmed, and the gun was his lol.
There is no telling how this will turn out.

One thing I dont understand is the mindset of people who think it is ok to shoot other people, just cause they made you mad lol.
I grew up with guns, and never once even thought of shooting someone because I didnt like them or was mad at them etc.

I agree. owning a firearm is how I grew up in rural America(Texas). We were taught safety and responsibility at a young age. The gun itself is a great tool if used correctly. The gun itself isnt the issue, its the user. Its kin to blaming the car for a wreck ,when often times its the user. We live in a society where accountability is just gone. Everytime we see a shooting, everyone screams for bans etc. That wont fix it. Its dumb. What we need is better screening and we need to educate the masses on guns and how they may benefit u if used the way they were intended. KJ and his ilk is a case where the wrong guys get ahold of something they think makes them tough. Its the thug mentality. I say lets educate,especially in urban areas.I think we can lower the crime rate and these shootings. There's alot of ignorant folks out there with an agenda. Shooting another human being and leaving them for dead and staying quiet about it for a month isnt the guns fault, its the user. We all must pay a price for our mistakes in life. KJ is no different.This is bigger than FB and the DC. I pray for the Ray family and even KJ..that he can use this as a stark wake up call. I dont wish him any ill will..but sadly, I feel his NFL life is finished. Sad. Thats my rant lol

 

[Captain-Crash]

Even if he was an aggressor of a fist fight, it’s a total punk move to then shoot the guy later.

I mean. A fist fight is one thing. Win or lose, everyone lives to fight another day.


Pulling a gun over an argument/fistfight is a total punk/scumbag move though.

yep 1000 percent agree.

 

[WillieBeamen]

he ratted

 

[Rayman70]

I just hope the gun owner isnt KJ. I still wanna know who owned the get away car. It matters..even if KJ didnt pull the trigger. My gut tells me KJ is in deeper than we think.

 

[Rayman70]

he ratted

will he be next? Did he cut a deal?

 

[Captain-Crash]

he's the bossman, his "posse" didn't do this on their own. he was the one getting his butt kicked.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Sounds like he other told on them, or he really didn't do it and they admitted it. He still is a fool for being with those kind of people

 

[Pabst]

Bossman Rat.

 

[WillieBeamen]

will he be next? Did he cut a deal?

According to this guy, he isnt facing charges

 

[Runwildboys]

Too many on the board don’t respect the innocent till proven guilty message that the Justice department hinges upon. If a person cannot be proven guilty then that means Cowboys fans should go to bat for the guy and forget about this incident.

Cowboys fans should remember how hard it is to find good cover corners. Not knowing all the facts of the case means it’s best to assume the best case scenario for the player in question (especially if they play for the team you root for and especially if they were highly drafted).

I mean, even if he did the shooting but could not be proven guilty. Let bygones be bygones.

Let bygones be bygones??? Seriously?

He's already admitted to being in the car, which means he's admitted to spending roughly the past month actively helping someone get away with murder.

Are you saying that if he was the actual killer, it's okay to let him play, as long as he gets away with it?

 

[Reid1boys]

I’m just seeing this and didn’t read all 74 pages but you have poor judgement if your car friends are people who murder someone and you just shut your mouth. JMO

I'm his lawyer:

Sir did the vehicle you were in when shots were fired stop? No
Sir were you aware that those shots fired actually hit a person? No

So you were not aware someone was shot? No.
You mean you could not tell from 50 yards away in a moving vehicle late at night in the dark someone in your vehicle had just shot a man? No

Yiu did not read in the paper a man died on the same night yiu were at that club? No, I can't read so well so I avoid newspapers.

You did not see a news report about the man succumbing to his injuries as a result of being shot? No, i do not watch the news, I only watch the bachelor keeping up with the Kardashians and *******.

So you mean to tell this court that you had no idea someone had been shot and died at the club you were at on the same night? No, I had no idea anyone had been injured until the police contacted me. At which time I was 100% cooperative with police and answered all of their questions.

 

[Runwildboys]

If you truly understand the law and how things work, you will know we can't really say much about that. Can you prove that he "witnessed," a murder? Can you prove, or do we know that he was aware someone died? You do know murder is a very specific term, yes? Is this particular case a "Murder," according to Texas law?

DETAILS matter, and we don't know details, and we don't know what his defense to any charges might be. So telling me that my "Argument," is outdated is incorrect.

I know my specificity to the details will get passed some people in here, but I went to lawschool, and there is a lot about this case we don't know. That Texas law you point to is not a slam dunk......it might be, but not off of the little bit of info released at this point.

You say he didn't talk until he was a person of interest. And your point? Maybe up till police contacted him there was nothing to talk about? Yea.....I could go that route as his attorney, and it would be up to prosecutor s to prove otherwise.

Do you think any jury or judge would believe he was in the car when someone in the car shot a man, but he never knew it?