Dare I say: Eli's BETTER than Romo?

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CutMeMick;2517220 said:
Unreal!
Don't you get it?
Your point is entirely MOOT!

That would be the equivalent of me saying;
" Joe Montana SHOULDA been sacked, then Dwight Clark
wouldn't have caught that pass'!
Or how about;
"Jackie Smith SHOULDA caught that pass in the endzone against
the Steelers, then we WOULDA had 6 Lombardi Trophys"!

The bottom line is, Eli Manning was under center, & directed a
Super Bowl winning drive.
Nothing you, I, or anyone else says about that....EVER,
will change that fact!
Until Romo can say somethin similiar to that, then I'm sorry-
he's NOT "better" than Eli!
Furthermore, Eli has proved to be more "clutch" when it matters
than Tony Romo! PERIOD!
Those are the facts, like it or not!
:banghead:

agreed. if no one ever missed an opportunity they wouldn't play the games.
 

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GOLDENCHILD1688;2517228 said:
who said a qb always throw the pass? show me that in my post

I think you meant to say "who said a quarterback always throws a perfect pass."

Second, I didn't say you said it. I said it.

Third, it was implied in your argument.

GOLDENCHILD said:
and even they said they should have lost that game twice to bad mistakes by eli but luckily the patriots didnt capitolize and eli eventually came through

The most prominent bad mistake on that drive was the ball Eli threw that Asante Samuel didn't intercept. Some say that was a bad throw, but judging how Eli was chewing out his receiver, it appears the receiver didn't run the right route.

That's what I was responding to, the implication that Eli threw a bad pass that was a bad mistake.

GOLDENCHILD said:
then you say i shouldnt hold eli's poor pass attempts on that entire drive that should have easily cost the giants yet you want me to overlook like it never happened. oh ok that makes sense:rolleyes:

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say you should over look it. I'm saying that despite what you want to maximize, Eli won. He led that drive down field. You can point to the "almost mistakes," but the bottom line is he won.

And I, personally, think it's silly to focus on the "almost mistakes" as if that matters in the final analysis. It doesn't. Eli won. He has a Super Bowl ring, and he was the Super Bowl MVP. Those things are more tangible than someone holding up his "almost mistakes" as reality. :rolleyes:



GOLDENCHILD said:
2nd what the hell does joe montana have to do with this lol maybe you didnt see the argument i was having with the other member. he was bragging about how good eli looked on the last drive of the patriots game. which is why i mentioned not once but twice did eli throw what should have been picks to end the game. that finally drive if anything was pure luck. down to the play where the pats idiot lb instead of wrapping eli up tried to one-arm him down for the sack by slinging him by his jersey, thus allowing ahim to sling a pass to david tyree to catch on his helmet! if hes trying to argue romo being better then eli i think thats the wrong drive to mention

This is what Joe Montana has to do with it. If you analyze any critical Super Bowl drive involving a quarterback, you're bound to find "almost mistakes."
Montana not being intercepted before he throws his game-winning TD in the second Bengals Super Bowl victory.
Terry Bradshaw tossing up a "prayer" right before he gets decked by a Cowboys defense lineman in Super Bowl 10.
The bottom line is they made the plays and they're Super Bowl heroes.

Second, what you call "luck" others call preparation. You say Eli was lucky not to get sacked. Others would say that Eli's commitment to weight training and his never-say-die attitude allowed him to elude Seymour. And so what if it was luck. Someone once said, "I'd rather be lucky than good."

Face it, Eli is a good quarterback and, right now, he is better than Romo. It's not just about stats. It's about winning. And if Jason Garrett and Wade Phillips want Romo to get into Eli's rarified status, then they will surround Romo with the same scheme Coughlin did for Eli.

Romo is a gambler. He may make a play, but he'll also cost you a game at a time when you don't need him to.

He has not proven he can lead this team to the Super Bowl. Eli has.

And there's no doubt disputing that FACT.

Check back with me when Romo is wearing a ring - and I'm not talking about one from Jessica Simpson. ;)
 

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Eli cannot make the plays Romo does. BUT Eli does not try and make plays all the time like Romo does. Romo right now NEEDS to step back and analyse his game. He needs to think about and practice taking what the D will give him MOST of the time. Now when the game is on the line and he needs to make plays then cut loose. THE REAL PROBLEM IS that Romo is almost ALWAYS cutting loose inmost games most of the time. And THAT is why he has so many picks and fumbles.
 

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I call BS on Eli LEADING that team to the SB. It was an inspired D line that led that team to the SB. Eli managed to NOT LOSE the SB. He did not WIN it.
 

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burmafrd;2517268 said:
I call BS on Eli LEADING that team to the SB. It was an inspired D line that led that team to the SB. Eli managed to NOT LOSE the SB. He did not WIN it.

Pulease, people. Eli won it AND the defense won it. We're not making an either/or with respect to who won the Super Bowl for the Giants.

We're comparing what Eli did vs. what Romo hasn't done.

And last time I checked, the Giants defense didn't score any points. That came from the offense. And last time I checked, Eli threw that game-winning pass to Plaxico Burress.
 

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tyke I call you out on that. Eli threw up a prayer and a great catch was made- the IMPORTANT pass was not a ELI play. It was ALL on the receiver. Even Brad Johnson could have made that pass to burress for the TD. He was pretty much wide open.
 

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burmafrd;2517278 said:
tyke I call you out on that. Eli threw up a prayer and a great catch was made- the IMPORTANT pass was not a ELI play. It was ALL on the receiver. Even Brad Johnson could have made that pass to burress for the TD. He was pretty much wide open.

brad johnson wouldnt have been able to even get off that pass.
 

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burmafrd;2517278 said:
tyke I call you out on that. Eli threw up a prayer and a great catch was made- the IMPORTANT pass was not a ELI play. It was ALL on the receiver. Even Brad Johnson could have made that pass to burress for the TD. He was pretty much wide open.

Yeah, Eli didn't do anything remarkable at all moving in the pocket, buying time and throwing a downfield pass with defenders draped all over him. Hell, Brad Johnson could have made that play left handed and blind folded.
 

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Has it come to this? he is just a QB... he is just a man! a man who drives a half million dollar car without tinted windows! the guy is so sad we had to call an option... what self respecting NFL QB runs an option?


Romo is the same guy who played at a Community College, He is the same guy who didnt get drafted, he is the same guy who sat the bench for 3 years! If Bledsoe wasnt so old Romo would be backing him up to this day!
 

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MONT17;2517321 said:
Has it come to this? he is just a QB... he is just a man! a man who drives a half million dollar car without tinted windows! the guy is so sad we had to call an option... what self respecting NFL QB runs an option?


Romo is the same guy who played at a Community College, He is the same guy who didnt get drafted, he is the same guy who sat the bench for 3 years! If Bledsoe wasnt so old Romo would be backing him up to this day!

You sound like some Vinny Cerrato/Dan Snyder hybrid. The only way you can be good is you're drafted high, have a famous last name or went to a major university !!!
 
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Gemini Dolly;2516916 said:
Eli does a great job of not making costly mistakes to hurt his team. Just hand it to the running backs and get out of the way.

And thats why he is better, has a ring and will win another one before Tony sniffs one.
 

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Eli Manning is a good quarterback.

Unlike the Matt Cassell/Tony Romo thread, asking if Eli Manning is better than Tony Romo is a very valid question.

Both guys are pretty good, but Eli Manning has cut down on the costly mistakes and has led his team to the Promised Land.
 

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Since last year's run when the coaches changed their offensive play calling
and reigned in Eli with a shorter field to work with,the scheme has worked
out very well and made him look better.The bottom line is better coaching
and i never thought much of Gilbride and Eli still don't look that great but he
isn't costing them games.We have so much talent on our team it really boggles
the mind how mediocre our offensive schemes really are.
 

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I have no reason to knock Eli Manning, the guy is a good QB. I also think Romo is a very good QB who is still trying to prove himself.
 

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CutMeMick;2516902 said:
I know, it's blasphemous!! But think about it.
That DOOFUS can march his team downfield for the
tying TD, & 2 pt conversion.

He's done it in the Super Bowl for gosh sakes!

We have yet to see Romo pull one out when it really matters!

Right now, Eli's playmaking in the clutch is the difference
between him & Romo!

Now excuse me, while I go throw up!!!!!!!!
:puke:





Nope. Its not Eli.


He is lucky for "Earth, Wind & Fire" = THEY won the game.
 

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thank you for stating the obvious??? He makes 1 play after they run down the field.... What did he do??? handoff???
 

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CutMeMick;2516902 said:
I know, it's blasphemous!! But think about it.
That DOOFUS can march his team downfield for the
tying TD, & 2 pt conversion.

He's done it in the Super Bowl for gosh sakes!

We have yet to see Romo pull one out when it really matters!

Right now, Eli's playmaking in the clutch is the difference
between him & Romo!

Now excuse me, while I go throw up!!!!!!!!
:puke:
You did see Ward rush for 200+ yards right? Manning threw for only 180 yds. I'm sure if MB3 runs for 200+ in a game, Wade Philips could put up 180 yds.

I'll give you a pass on Manning's desperation heaves in the Superbowl, two of which, hit defenders in the hands and should have been picked on that final drive. That was destiny.

Manning has one 300 yd game this year. One.

In fact, their running game has been so good, Eli went almost the entire month of Oct and Nov without throwing over 200 yds.

Jacobs goes down for two games and they lost both. But I'm sure that's just coincidence.

Now excuse me while I go throw up after reading that post.
 

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Ozzu;2516904 said:
I guess you missed the 4th quarter last night? Our defense makes one stop and we most likely win that game.

If they would've been able to get off the field in the 1st half. Maybe they would've had the energy to make a stop in the 4th quarter
 

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Real1st;2516926 said:
:lmao2:

Sometimes i swear there are guys breaking their back to excuse Romos poor play.


Romo has Roy11, T.O., Witten

Eli has Hixon and old *** Toomer
So last week was Romo the better QB?
 

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So, Romo has 2 4th quarter drives for TD's and the defense does not hold and that somehow makes Eli the better QB.

OK, if you say so!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

By the way, were there any passing plays in the first half that Romo did not have pressure on. I don't remember a clean pocket the whole first half!
 
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