Darren McFadden 'feeling good;' could return Saturday

[cowboyblue22]

I think if they take the bubble wrap of he falls apart his history is that he is injury prone so I don't expect it will change here the fo has made a huge mistake and wasted another year of the romo window and its about to shut.

 

[CATCH17]

I think if they take the bubble wrap of he falls apart his history is that he is injury prone so I don't expect it will change here the fo has made a huge mistake and wasted another year of the romo window and its about to shut.

Our roster is amazing.

No excuses about wasting another Romo year this year.

The Cowboys are locked and loaded. Even with Randle, Dunbar, and Mcfadden.

 

[Bowdown27]

@toddarcher: Darren McFadden's Cowboys' camp debut set for Aug. 15 http://t.co/LxYhgesxip

 

[darthseinfeld]

Could return Saturday. Could be reinjured

 

[Bullet22]

They are not going to rush him because he is the starter....Randle is on his last leg..One more screw up and he is gone...He is immature.. Anyone who steals underwear is unstable..

 

[Galian Beast]

They are not going to rush him because he is the starter....Randle is on his last leg..One more screw up and he is gone...He is immature.. Anyone who steals underwear is unstable..

I think Randle is pretty clearly the starter right now, and McFadden is the insurance policy. I still think you're going to see a lot of rotation in there. About 30 carries per game.

 

[Bullflop]

That is just speculation, IMO. People always want to link Jerry to Arkansas players and I think Stephen made joke about Jerry liking McFadden because he was from Arkansas. In reality the Cowboys have had very few players from Arkansas.

If they were really infatuated with players from Arkansas they would have signed Alvin Bailey a couple of years ago as a UDFA. I'm still shocked that he didn't get drafted. He was really good college player with incredible combine numbers.

My anxiety over Jerry acquiring McFadden really had nothing to do with the Arkansas thing but rather was based upon Jerry's history of making questionable decisions with respect to his talent evaluations. I think the idea of his being too fond of Arkansas players is a laughable misconception that has no basis in fact. Of course, lately, he's consented to allow Will McClay and others better suited to evaluate talent to do what they do best.

Funny you should mention Alvin Bailey, as I was very surprised over his being skipped in that draft as well. There have been too many drafts where we could have taken players from Arkansas and didn't. To think our FO is biased in their estimation of them is pure fallacy. We definitely agree on that.

 

[Bullet22]

I think Randle is pretty clearly the starter right now, and McFadden is the insurance policy. I still think you're going to see a lot of rotation in there. About 30 carries per game.

I agree with you that Randle should be the starter now, based on he has been in the system now for 2 years..but all things equal based on overall talent and health, DMC is the better talent...and that wins in the long run...

 

[Galian Beast]

My anxiety over Jerry acquiring McFadden really had nothing to do with the Arkansas thing but rather was based upon Jerry's history of making questionable decisions with respect to his talent evaluations. I think the idea of his being too fond of Arkansas players is a laughable misconception that has no basis in fact. Of course, lately, he's consented to allow Will McClay and others better suited to evaluate talent to do what they do best.

Funny you should mention Alvin Bailey, as I was very surprised over his being skipped in that draft as well. There have been too many drafts where we could have taken players from Arkansas and didn't. To think our FO is biased in their estimation of them is pure fallacy. We definitely agree on that.

I agree with you that Randle should be the starter now, based on he has been in the system now for 2 years..but all things equal based on overall talent and health, DMC is the better talent...and that wins in the long run...

I think that McFadden has some legitimate big play ability in this offense. I think Randle will get every opportunity to be the lead running back, but I don't think that designation has a ton of meaning. I think the difference between the number 1 guy and the number 2 guy is probably going to be like 5 carries per game over the course of the season.

 

[Bullet22]

I think that McFadden has some legitimate big play ability in this offense. I think Randle will get every opportunity to be the lead running back, but I don't think that designation has a ton of meaning. I think the difference between the number 1 guy and the number 2 guy is probably going to be like 5 carries per game over the course of the season.

Yes, having 2 number 1 backs will be work just fine...

 

[Galian Beast]

Yes, having 2 number 1 backs will be work just fine...

I think we can all agree that we have one of the best run blocking offensive lines in football. Definitely top 3-5.

I think there is a great example of what this offense is capable out there. It is the 2009 Saints. The Saints won the Super Bowl as a pass happy big play offense, but they also ran the ball 468 times for 2106 yards compared to us running the ball 508 times for 2354 yards. They were six in the NFL in rushing.

How were they able to accomplish this?

Well they had Pierre Thomas, Mike Bell, and Reggie Bush... It was their offensive line that paved the way. Two time pro bowler Jermon Bushrod, two time pro bowl Car Nicks, 1 time pro bowler Jonathan Goodwin, 6 time pro bowler, 4 time all pro Jari Evans, and 1 time pro bowler Jon Stinchcomb. A lot of people wonder why the Saints aren't nearly as good now as they once were, and it is in my estimation that their offensive line got old/departed.

Anyways, if you look at their running backs:

Mike Bell - 172 attempts, 654 yards rushing, 3.8 yards per attempt, and 5 touchdowns.
Pierre Thomas - 147 attempts, 793 yards rushing, 5.4 yards per attempt, 6 touchdowns.
Reggie Bush - 70 attempts, 390 yards rushing, 5.6 yards per attempt, 5 touchdowns.

As you can see there are no world beaters here.

Can McFadden and Randle out run Bell and Thomas? Can Dunbar our run Bush? I think behind this offensive line the answer is yes.

Hell our wide receivers are definitely better than the 2009 saints as well. The question then becomes can our defense be as productive (key word) as the 2009 saints, and I think the answer is yes there as well. We played the Saints in 2009, and we beat them. We were a better team than them, and I think we're a better team than our 2009 team this year. That team got exposed by Minnesota because the defense was too inconsistent and the offensive line couldn't hold up against 4 rushers. Minnesota was simply a bad match up for that team.

 

[Bullflop]

I think that McFadden has some legitimate big play ability in this offense. I think Randle will get every opportunity to be the lead running back, but I don't think that designation has a ton of meaning. I think the difference between the number 1 guy and the number 2 guy is probably going to be like 5 carries per game over the course of the season.

I'm definitely not inclined to make any number of carry per game prediction for one like McFadden. The reason I'd say that is due to the fact that there's no telling how many games he'll actually participate in or be healthy for. He may very well be capable of making a big play now and then but that remains to be seen. Conversely, his history of routinely being injury prone is well documented and simply makes his production unpredictable.

Due to that, I think it's entirely up to happenstance whether the number of yards he'll have per game would be likely to match a specific number that anyone might expect. He might ultimately be active in something like 12 games, 9 games, 6 games or who knows what?

With that being the case, his yardage total per game could readily become affected by good health, limited health and/or even total unavailability for any given game. It's also entirely possible that another as yet unnamed RB might be getting carries that were originally intended for him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

They simply have painted themselves into a corner at the position.

How? Every chance they had to address the position they willingly passed.

 

[Doomsday101]

Steven Jones stated on the radio, that they are holding him out longer to be safe..If it was up to DMC he would already be on the field.....He tested the ham yesterday and he said it feels great...Jones said they are not in a hurry...

And I have stated the same things that they were being overly cautious with his hamstring given the problems he has had in the past. I hope that is the case.

 

[Doomsday101]

The attack we're seeing by some on McFadden has to do with the fact that many weren't thrilled with the signing due to his injury history and here we are in August and he's missing part of training camp with an injury. We're getting what we expected an injury prone player and it's frustrating. Many make excuses for thugs because they've had production and all some fans/FANS care about is winning regardless a players character. McFadden hasn't averaged more than 3.4 a carry the past 3 seasons and that coupled with his injury history has everyone frustrated that he started training camp on PUP with a hamstring injury.

We'll just have to see how many games his hamstring issues or other injury issues keeps him out of. If Randle is forced to carry the majority of the load or gets injured the running game is going to take a significant hit from where it was last season. An OL can only help so much you still have to have a talented runner who can break tackles and make defenders miss if you're going to have a solid, consistent running game. A back has to show they can turn a loss into a 3-4 yard gain. They have to show they can turn what should only be a 3-4 yard gain into a 10 plus yard gain. That's all dependent on the back not the OL.

It still end up personal as if McFadden is doing this intentionally to hack people off, he is not. I have no doubt it is killing him not to be out there with his teammates. I think there are very few guys if any in the NFL who enjoy being injured and not being able to play the game they love. I get the skepticism but I do not get the personal attacks on him. Team is taking a low cost risk. I think people anger gets directed in the wrong places. Cowboys organization made this move if it works it is due to the risk they took, if it fails then again it is the risk the franchise took.

 

[mattjames2010]

Two months ago, McFadden was going to be productive and no problem to a lot of you. Now he's the joke of this forum? Crazy.

Mcfadden should have never been a consideration UNLESS we had a secure #1 RB. This hammy is going to linger all season and we'll be hearing "He's day to day" - the guy hasn't played a single game for us yet and we have to be cautious with him? If we're going to bring in a veteran, just replace McFadden with Jackson/Johnson/Thomas. I'm not saying those three are ideal RBs, but they will be on the injury report far less than McFadden.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Randle is on his last leg..One more screw up and he is gone...He is immature.. Anyone who steals underwear is unstable..

 

[Risen Star]

Our roster is amazing.

LOLOLOL

 

[Ken]

I think Randle is pretty clearly the starter right now, and McFadden is the insurance policy. I still think you're going to see a lot of rotation in there. About 30 carries per game.

I am not convinced of that yet.

Mcfadden looked great in the last mini camp and provides a great pass protector in blitz pick up.

I see a 60/40 split with Dmac as the lead dog.

 

[CATCH17]

LOLOLOL

It is.

You don't put rosters like this together in Free Agency football.


You look at what is getting to the Conference title games and Superbowls and you have to love what we're working with this season.

Top to bottom Dallas has a top 3 NFL roster.