David Helman: Dak winning league MVP isn't far-fetched

MarcusRock

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Feel like you want to feel. I think Romo didn't get the votes because of Murray's year. Rodgers had the better year in some categories, not all.

https://www.thesportster.com/football/top-10-reasons-tony-romo-should-be-mvp/#8-week-one-was-fluky

https://www.nfl.com/news/tony-romo-deserves-mvp-for-driving-dallas-cowboys-success-0ap3000000448444
So if he got Murray's votes he'd still be 3rd at 4 votes to Watt's 13 and Rodgers' 31. But I gather you're saying that Murray not looming as large would put more focus on Romo as the catalyst for that season although a strong case can be made that Murray's year is what allowed Romo to be so efficient in the first place. So Murray not looming as large might have led to less efficient stats as was the case for Romo in just about all of his other seasons. Heck, the only other time he ever led the NFL in anything before 2014 was in INTs just 2 years prior. And Rodgers had better TDs, Yards, and INTs. Those are the major categories, hence the results. It was a good campaign from Romo but MVP was not close and the votes reflected that.
 

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I'm not a big Dak guy but some of you all refer to him like he's Mark Sanchez or something. Dude is seriously not that bad.

That's because most of them have very low football IQs. Just pay attention to the weak cowards of the board when Dak plays well and/or we win.

Those few weak ones disappear until our next loss. Then those weak cowards come crawling out of their uncle's basement back on to their keyboards.
 

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In 2014 Demarco Murray set the new Cowboys single season rushing record.

Not unrelated, it was also the only season that Tony Romo was the #1 ranked QB in the league. It was the season in which Tony threw the fewest passes while playing a full season of 14 or more games.

Dak is 27-1 in games with 28 or less passing attempts for a 96.4% win rate. For all QB's in the past 10 years with 10 games of 28 or less passes, Dak is ranked #1 in winning percentage. McCarthy knows this which is why he stated that he wanted to run the ball more. It's pretty simple, the more the Cowboys run, the less Dak passes. The less Dak passes, the more they win.

This is not an indictment of Dak's abilities as a QB. The simple fact is that Dak has many great attributes as an NFL QB, enough to qualify him as one of the best. However, all QB's have differences in some respects and Dak is not one of those naturally gifted, strong armed blue chippers that get taken in the top of the 1st round.

Dak can be extremely successful when used the right way. If Garrett or Moore wanted a prolific Coryell type passing game then they chose the wrong quarterback, that just isn't Dak. However, if the Cowboys want a strong running game complemented by an opportunistic passing game with the leadership of a QB that protects the ball and keeps drives alive then Dak is their man.

Ironically, Dak could be the league MVP if the Cowboys are a balanced offense with a strong running attack.

Of course, that begs the question, why wouldn't Pollard be the MVP then? Well, when you look at the last 20 league MVP's, 18 of them have been QB's. It's a simple NFL reality that QB's get the love, especially in today's game.
The one problem is when the run game is shutdown and Dak has to pass, things seem to get out of hand. His decision making so far has faltered in big games. I am just referring to playoff games here. Some qb's thrive on pressure, some don't. I just hope that Dak has learned something from last year. Throw the ball away instead of into coverage. Don't make decisions that will hurt your team.

Don't get me wrong. I am a Dak fan and more important, a Cowboy fan. It's time for Dak to step up in the big games and stop turning the ball over.
 

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I would love the Dak fanBOOBS to put their accounts up; then we would be rid of the idiots.
They will depart when Dak is gone.
Ya, I'm pretty sure the CFL has team chat sites for them to talk about their man-crush.
P.S. Dak MVP.......:lmao:
 

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there have been some pretty random MVP's
Random? Not following that train of thought at least not in this century.

They were all elite passers with Cam mixed in back when he was a running threat & managed to be a good enough passer. Matt Ryan was always a very good QB who hit it out of the park the year he won.

Other than that it was a few RB's like Peterson who had a monster year.

I don't see much randomness about it. It's most likely going to be an elite passer on a team that does well.
 

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There have been one year wonders that got to be MVP. Mark Rypien comes to mind. If the stars align it could happen as it has in the past for others.

But thinking it likely is another thing. There is a big difference between probable and possible.

Probable is the Browns screwing up at QB again (thought that is arguable its a lot more likely)

Possible is Dak getting MVP
 

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It’s not that far fetched, considering he was having an MVP year in 2020 when he injured his ankle. He’s capable of playing great games we’ve seen it. He just needs to get his consistency back. This is going to be an important year for him with only one year remaining on his contract after this season.
He had 0 shot at winning MVP in 2020.

MVP isn’t handed out to the guy with the most yards; Drew Brees has 0 MVPs. In 2020 you struggled to beat anyone with Dak healthy due to your defense, and he was on an alarming turnover rate. He was on pace for 16 interceptions and 12 fumbles. You had gone 8-8 the year before and the new Mike Nolan system was worse. When was the last time a QB with a losing record (or fringe .500 record) won MVP?

On top of that, Aaron Rodgers was on pace for one of the most proficient seasons in NFL history, 13-3 notwithstanding. 48 TDs, 5 picks, 121 passer rating. Might be the greatest season ever. That’s the part that makes this difficult… Dak doesn’t just need to have an alltime season, he needs to prove to be a superior QB to Patrick Mahomes in 2023. And Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen, and on and on. It’s why the top guys win piles of them, because they’re consistently the top guys in the MVP voting.
 

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He had 0 shot at winning MVP in 2020.

MVP isn’t handed out to the guy with the most yards; Drew Brees has 0 MVPs. In 2020 you struggled to beat anyone with Dak healthy due to your defense, and he was on an alarming turnover rate. He was on pace for 16 interceptions and 12 fumbles.

On top of that, Aaron Rodgers was on pace for one of the most proficient seasons in NFL history, 13-3 notwithstanding. That’s the part that makes this difficult… Dak doesn’t just need to have an alltime season, he needs to prove to be a superior QB to Patrick Mahomes in 2023. And Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen, and on and on.
I'll take "along the same line" as those mentioned above. PM, JB, and JA are three of the best in the game right now. We are about to find out what Dak, (and Jalen), are made of in just a few more months.
 

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I'll take "along the same line" as those mentioned above. PM, JB, and JA are three of the best in the game right now. We are about to find out what Dak, (and Jalen), are made of in just a few more months.
Dak isn’t some second or third guy on his rookie deal though. For 7 years now he’s been consistently the same pro bowl caliber QB. We already know what he’s made of, and we could probably predict his statline for the season. It would take a huge shift in circumstances for him to suddenly be outplaying Patrick Mahomes
 

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Dak isn’t some second or third guy on his rookie deal though. For 7 years now he’s been consistently the same pro bowl caliber QB. We already know what he’s made of, and we could probably predict his statline for the season. It would take a huge shift in circumstances for him to suddenly be outplaying Patrick Mahomes
Yea, like being reborn. :laugh:Not many like Patrick.
 

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I'm not certain he'll top some of the guys in the AFC. NFC? Sure, that could happen if the team is solid.
 

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This can be true as well as what I said.
he is fair with Dak when he deserves it, but hes also “fair” with Dak when he doesn’t.
huge fanboy

Either way, hope hes right
Based on your opinion. He's not unrealistic or unfactual.
 

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He has been in teh mix - for 5 or 6 games. But given his history it is "far fetched" to think he will be in the mix by the end of the regular season. Far-fetched may be the wrong words. It would be surprising may be a better way to put it.
 

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LIke you would recognize fair if it slapped you in the face.
Naw I recognize it. I recognize saying “Dak sucks” or that Andy Dalton makes Dak expendable is stupidity not fair.

I really get a kick out of y’all being so butt hurt I give fair criticism of Dak. Y’all gotta find something else to focus your life on.
 
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