Davon Coleman waived for Pellerin

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Yes. We remember your position that players like Free and Leary and Hatcher and Crawford were 'slop' as you like to say. Prophetic.

You act like every single one of us doesn't recognize that high first round picks are better than developing players or stopgaps. This is not news to any of us.

Your MO is to complain wherever there's not a top flight talent at a position on the roster, and then to pretend everybody else is a homer for not expecting the same. Only the rest of us know you only get one first round pick per year.

Your transparent grandstanding and desperate attempts to ignore every case where you're dead wrong wears really thin when the team wins. You're in the unfortunate place where you need us to lose more for your arguments to carry emotional weight. And that's just sorta sad.

Fortunately for me, your challenged mind doesn't define what my MO is, homer.

It's all about watching a player and coming to an unbiased conclusion on if he can play. Your problem is you can't stand when I can admit the Cowboys have some real bums on the roster. You, in a desperate attempt to protect the team and your feelings, like to pretend we all must wait and see. Who knows? Maybe Phil Costa can play. Do you know more than the coaches? You should run a team!

Coleman was a JAG. Not all UDFAs are JAGs but most are. He fell in with the majority. The fact that you were optimistic that he'd be a future starter here tells me you have no idea what the heck you are talking about and try to disguise that fact by appearing patient and rational.

The Phil Costa, David Arkin, Bill Nagy stank will never leave you. Consider yourself skunked.
 

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These geniuses are actually trying to pretend I don't like late round picks and UDFAs?

LOL.

No. I just don't like some of them. Like the bad ones. The ones I don't see value in.

Whatever Coleman was going to be, future starter wasn't it. What a laughable comment that was.
 

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I can see the argument for cutting the 4th tackle. What we don't know if is one of the first three is dealing with something nagging that they're worried will become something bigger. The timing of the move makes it seem like they're trying to get him to the PS. I guess the problem I see is that Coleman hasn't been active in a while and with Brent back I'm guessing is even less likely to be active now then he was. I can see keeping the younger player on the DLine over the older on the OL. Honestly, I bet its not something to get in a twist about either direction.
 

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Fortunately for me, your challenged mind doesn't define what my MO is, homer.

It's all about watching a player and coming to an unbiased conclusion on if he can play. Your problem is you can't stand when I can admit the Cowboys have some real bums on the roster. You, in a desperate attempt to protect the team and your feelings, like to pretend we all must wait and see. Who knows? Maybe Phil Costa can play. Do you know more than the coaches? You should run a team!

Coleman was a JAG. Not all UDFAs are JAGs but most are. He fell in with the majority. The fact that you were optimistic that he'd be a future starter here tells me you have no idea what the heck you are talking about and try to disguise that fact by appearing patient and rational.

The Phil Costa, David Arkin, Bill Nagy stank will never leave you. Consider yourself skunked.

There are plenty of players on the roster that I don't happen to like, or whose potential I think is likely to never be realized. Even more guys who I think--or thought--did have potential and who never delivered. The difference between us is that I realize that's the case for every team, and that that's how the process works: you get guys you think might work out and then see if they do. I don't begrudge players for having the audacity to be on the roster when we don't draft well enough or manage resources well enough to have found someone better.

That fact that you won't appreciate it when a college free agent not only earns a roster spot, but earns playing time, and extension from the team, and then is picked up by another playoff contender to compete for a starting role on their squad, too, is only your stubbornness talking. The good news is, increasingly, I think everybody here knows that. And your other buddies are too busy off enjoying the winning season elsewhere to engage with you in your fan-baiting.
 

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Oh, then you agree that Coleman did show some good things.

Thanks for the back-up!

Some of us don't need a fan website OR what we're seeing on Sundays. It's enough to know they're low-probability players and on our rosters and we can hate them sight-unseen. If they turn out to be good, we'll acknowledge how much better they've gotten suddenly and consider that a win.
 

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Coleman was decent but 1) he has some good players ahead of him in Henry Melton, Tyrone Crawford, Terrell McClain, Nick Hayden (at least Marinelli thinks so), and now Josh Brent; 2) There are guys just like him available almost every year; and 3) Coleman may still end up on the Practice Squad.
 

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The good news is, increasingly, I think everybody here knows that. And your other buddies are too busy off enjoying the winning season elsewhere to engage with you in your fan-baiting.

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There are a lot of Coleman type players out there. No need to fret over this. He didn't have starter potential. He is depth at best, and the coaches obviously echo that sentiment.
 

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Some of us don't need a fan website OR what we're seeing on Sundays. It's enough to know they're low-probability players and on our rosters and we can hate them sight-unseen. If they turn out to be good, we'll acknowledge how much better they've gotten suddenly and consider that a win.

Oh you mean like Hitchens?
 

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There are plenty of players on the roster that I don't happen to like, or whose potential I think is likely to never be realized. Even more guys who I think--or thought--did have potential and who never delivered. The difference between us is that I realize that's the case for every team, and that that's how the process works: you get guys you think might work out and then see if they do. I don't begrudge players for having the audacity to be on the roster when we don't draft well enough or manage resources well enough to have found someone better.

That fact that you won't appreciate it when a college free agent not only earns a roster spot, but earns playing time, and extension from the team, and then is picked up by another playoff contender to compete for a starting role on their squad, too, is only your stubbornness talking. The good news is, increasingly, I think everybody here knows that. And your other buddies are too busy off enjoying the winning season elsewhere to engage with you in your fan-baiting.

Think of all the successful organizations and ventures you have ever been on or admired. How many have been led by people have been led by self-aggrandizing, backstabbing and elitist malcontents like Sam?

And to be clear, there is a difference between criticizing someone and breaking down their performance in an effort to see them improve and a blanket dismissal/rejection. It's the difference between individual coaching and going into the meeting room and crapping all over anyone who is not a pro bowler.
 

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Why all this turmoil over a guy who has basically done nothing in the real games. Maybe he will be resigned to the PS later. I'll be surprised if he is signed to anyone's 53 roster. He will end up on someone's PS...if not ours, that speaks volumes to his true value to those who watch him each day in practice. And to mention next year's need for depth? We aren't so good on the DL that we can keep a guy in hope he provides depth next season!

We have two other guys not playing his year who might do that. We are playing, working our roster, and making all decisions trying to make something of an unexpected hot start this year.
 

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Oh, then you agree that Coleman did show some good things.

Thanks for the back-up!

His first step is very,very good. The stills one second after the snap speak volumes as to his natural ability. He needs to get stronger and learn the nuances of the more complicated NFL game but he is a quality prospect with upside.

Fun thing to do with Sam is make him explain himself. Explain in detail what Coleman, Costa, or anyone else can and cannot do. He typically fails really hard and tries to make it about something else. He is bringing up players from over 2 years ago and calling people homers here because at the end of the day he cannot articulate anything other than emotional genrealizations.

I ignore that and focus on what he cannot do. It makes him mad though. He has put me on ignore because he cannot talk to me for fear of losing control and getting himself banned again.

So far his analysis is that Coleman is a JAG and he watches football so he knows this. He is better than Idjit because Idjit thought some prospects in the past had a chance and was wrong. Frankly, I think anyone who accepts that approach is a fool. Not that anyone here is mind you.
 

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His first step is very,very good. The stills one second after the snap speak volumes as to his natural ability. He needs to get stronger and learn the nuances of the more complicated NFL game but he is a quality prospect with upside.

Fun thing to do with Sam is make him explain himself. Explain in detail what Coleman, Costa, or anyone else can and cannot do. He typically fails really hard and tries to make it about something else. He is bringing up players from over 2 years ago and calling people homers here because at the end of the day he cannot articulate anything other than emotional genrealizations.

I ignore that and focus on what he cannot do. It makes him mad though. He has put me on ignore because he cannot talk to me for fear of losing control and getting himself banned again.

So far his analysis is that Coleman is a JAG and he watches football so he knows this. He is better than Idjit because Idjit thought some prospects in the past had a chance and was wrong. Frankly, I think anyone who accepts that approach is a fool. Not that anyone here is mind you.

That's the thing... everyone has seen the stills. They've seen the kid get off the snap faster than the other 3 defensive lineman (on numerous occasions). They've seen the kid use a pretty good spin move (on numerous occasions).

But yet the kid has no upside?
 

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Fortunately for me, your challenged mind doesn't define what my MO is, homer.

It's all about watching a player and coming to an unbiased conclusion on if he can play. Your problem is you can't stand when I can admit the Cowboys have some real bums on the roster. You, in a desperate attempt to protect the team and your feelings, like to pretend we all must wait and see. Who knows? Maybe Phil Costa can play. Do you know more than the coaches? You should run a team!

Coleman was a JAG. Not all UDFAs are JAGs but most are. He fell in with the majority. The fact that you were optimistic that he'd be a future starter here tells me you have no idea what the heck you are talking about and try to disguise that fact by appearing patient and rational.

The Phil Costa, David Arkin, Bill Nagy stank will never leave you. Consider yourself skunked.

It's all about watching a player and coming to an unbiased conclusion on if he can play.
was that the case with " isn't a fourth round draftee Anthony Hitchens" did you use that unbiased
conclusion then. give us a break
 
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