Dawn of Justice

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I did like how the sequence was done from the ground perspective. I kept trying to run the same sequence of events in MOS from Kal-El and Zod's vantage points through my mind's eye at the same time as DOJ's sequence was playing out. It wouldn't surprise me the heat vision beams that Wayne saw cut the building in half were timed and angled exactly as they happened when Zod first manifested the power in MOS. I'm thinking of doing a split screen splice of both movies' sequences after DOJ's release and see if I've guessed right.



That was discussed when the trailer was released, it's a well thought through sequence.
 

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Myself WW was ok, nothing above ordinary (her performance). Her acting wasn't notable to make me take notice. Nothing applause worthy.
 

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That was discussed when the trailer was released, it's a well thought through sequence.

Thanks. That's pretty cool. I'm taking the same thing on another step further with a split screen.
 

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I'm creating acts from my recollection of Man of Steel:

Act 1: Krypton (prologue/not really a flashback/recounts Superman's extraterrestrial birth).

Act 2: Grown Clark Kent (present day) rescues oil rig workers with superhuman abilities.

Flashback 1: Clark is in elementary school, exhibiting superhuman abilities like super hearing and heat vision that surprises him.

Flashback 2: Clark is in junior high, exhibits superhuman ability of super strength/Jonathan tells him of his
extraterrestrial birth and challenges his son to explore the world in order to discover his purpose in it.

Act 3: Clark re-appears after rescuing the oil rig workers working in a diner. He overhears a possible clue about an extraterrestrial object being studied in the Artic and heads there. Side note: Pig pisses him off and Clark decides to trash his rig before hitting the road.

Act 4: Lois Lane arrives in the artic to report on the mysterious object. She meets Clark for the first time because he arrived there and got a job before she flew in.

Act 5: Lois witnessed Clark's superhuman abilities of x-ray vision and heat vision. She didn't care much for his heat vision though. Clark leaves Lois to be rescued and he flies off in the Kryptonian ship.

Act 7: Lois makes her way back to Metropolis but her account of what happens gets stonewalled, so she slips the story to a competitor.

Act 8: Meanwhile, Clark passes all the identity verification tests that the ship puts him through and he finally discovers his Kryptonian heritage, his purpose that Jor-El wanted for him, and fully tests his superhuman abilities like flight for the first time.

Act 9: Lois starts her search to discover Clark's identity by going back to the artic, gets clues about the diner, heads there, gets clues about his job as a fisherman (e.g. customary Pulitzer Prize winning investigative work), tracks Clark back to Smallville, and asks him to let her tell his story. He starts explaining his fear based upon Jonathan's concern...

Flashback 3: Clark witnesses his human father act heroically to save others and perishes in the attempt because Jonathan loved his son so much he prevented Clark from saving him. He sees Jonathan would rather die to protect his son's secret until it was safe for the rest of the world to accept him.

Act 10: Lois accepts Clark's reasoning, returns to Metropolis and Perry, who's pissed about her leaking out the story but glad she's letting it go due to the story's implications and public reaction.

Act 11: Clark tells Martha about his Kryptonian heritage.

******

That's it. With the exception of Zod's "telepathic" explanation to Clark explaining his group's arrival on Earth and later discernment of the Codex, there aren't any other chronological interruptions in the film from Act 11 forward.

Flashbacks are an established method of continuity editing. They can be bothersome sometimes. Personally, I think Snyder's flashbacks and montages (another form of continuity editing) in DOJ were more bothersome but MOS never lacks continuity.
likely cause the pain was over.


Lol... Wrong!

Sometimes you just have to enjoy things!
 

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Scenes I loved:

The robin suit
Martha won't die
I'm with your son
First appearance of Diana prince.
WW deflecting doom fireblast

Yeah, I even liked "I thought she was with you" lol

(The messenging)
The photo doesn't belong to you. It IS you.
Where have you been all my life lol

Supes leaves Lois to defeat dooms

The very end... Bats realizes he finally has help. Build the justice league.
 

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and sometimes, you just have to make them enjoyable in order for someone to enjoy it.

I get you.


For me, spider man 2(Toby), avengers and bat v supe made me think I was watching comic book on screen. That's pretty good... For me... :)
 

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I thought it was an okay movie. Definitely better than Man of Steel, but still a lot of issues. I think the first half was kind of all over the place, and a lot of it could have been edited down. The senator and bullet subplots didn't really go anywhere, and the dream sequence probably should have been cut as well. It had some good action and might be a hint at things to come, but it really didn't fit in with the narrative of this movie at all.
 

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Scenes I loved:

The robin suit
Martha won't die
I'm with your son
First appearance of Diana prince.
WW deflecting doom fireblast

Yeah, I even liked "I thought she was with you" lol

(The messenging)
The photo doesn't belong to you. It IS you.
Where have you been all my life lol

Supes leaves Lois to defeat dooms

The very end... Bats realizes he finally has help. Build the justice league.

The Batman battle scene was the most brutal, while still somewhat realistic, superhero fight I've ever seen.

Reminded me of the hallway fight from Daredevil, although it obviously wasn't one take.
 

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I saw it earlier tonight and went in with fairly low expectations, but I thought it was pretty good. I don't think it's up to the standards of most of the Marvel movies that have come out in the last few years and watching immediately after seeing Deadpool a few weeks ago probably takes a bit of the shine off of it too. It also makes me wish for the days of Christopher Nolan's Batman, but overall?

I'd give it a 6/10.
 

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I saw it earlier tonight and went in with fairly low expectations, but I thought it was pretty good. I don't think it's up to the standards of most of the Marvel movies that have come out in the last few years and watching immediately after seeing Deadpool a few weeks ago probably takes a bit of the shine off of it too. It also makes me wish for the days of Christopher Nolan's Batman, but overall?

I'd give it a 6/10.

Marvel movies are known for their humor. Snyder's Man of Steel and this movie was grim, don't think he has any idea of what humor is or what it can add to his type of movies.
 

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Marvel movies are known for their humor. Snyder's Man of Steel and this movie was grim, don't think he has any idea of what humor is or what it can add to his type of movies.

Hell, even Christopher Nolan's Batman had more humor and those were very dark.

I'm just not a big fan of Snyder's work on these. What I'm hoping is that Batman's solo movie in this particular universe is directed by someone else. Maybe Affleck can do it? I dunno.
 

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Hell, even Christopher Nolan's Batman had more humor and those were very dark.

I'm just not a big fan of Snyder's work on these. What I'm hoping is that Batman's solo movie in this particular universe is directed by someone else. Maybe Affleck can do it? I dunno.

Love Nolan's Batman movies. Because of the humor. Can you imagine Tony Stark's Iron Man doing it without his trademark humor? Or the upcoming Civil War Trailers we've seen with no humor, but just being dark and grim. That's it. Blah.
 

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Hell, even Christopher Nolan's Batman had more humor and those were very dark.

I'm just not a big fan of Snyder's work on these. What I'm hoping is that Batman's solo movie in this particular universe is directed by someone else. Maybe Affleck can do it? I dunno.

I think he is capable of giving us a good Bats. Without too much rehash.
Would hope it's just the later years. A rewind of sorts. Maybe duel timeline like godfather 2.
 

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Saw it last night and am a little confused on how much backlash this has received. I was intrigued from start to finish and allowed myself to be entertained.

Some scenes really drove home like the interaction of Supes and Lex on the helipad.

Actually like Batfleck more than Bale. Maybe it's his stature as I always envisioned Batman as a taller guy but that kills my opinion of Keaton as the best Batman. Oh well!! Haha.


Looking forward to the Affleck directed Batman solo film.


CAUTION: MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!


When should we expect Supes back in action? End of the first Justice League or JL2?
 
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