Dean Blandino on Micah holds

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Since there has been a holding call for Micah Parsons....FORTY-TWO QUARTERS???

Maybe it’s getting attention which is a step toward fixing it. Blandino telling me "it’s not intentional" doesn't make me fell any better about it.
His excuse that it isn't intentional doesn't pass the logic test. Mere incompetence WOULD even out over the long haul. Incompetence would also mean that Parsons would get a favorable holding call once in a while even when the blockers don't hold him.

He gets no calls at all, and I've posted the recent history of Dallas getting jobbed on holding both ways which predates Parsons. It isn't because of Micah that no holds are being called. It's because he plays for the Cowboys and the league has an anti-Cowboys officiating policy.
 

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I would love to see a comparison to other players on his level (Watt, Hunter, Garrett, Bosa).
Only Myles Garrett and the Browns have even remotely close to the gripe that Parsons and the Cowboys have. While Parsons does not get any holding calls, the Cowboys sure do as they are top two in the league for both offensive and defensive holding penalties. The Browns are the only other team in the top 10 (6th and 9th) for both.
 

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What do you expect from a guy who got caught hanging out on Boogers "Fun girl" bus....the guy is an opportunistic slimeball.
 

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Incompetence and stupidity often masquerade as evil and sinister.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

That quote about never mistaking incompetence for evil was made by a guy trying to excuse evil by labeling it as incompetence and stupidity.

Stupidity and incompetence would result in some holding calls being right for Micah, an occasional favorable phantom holding call in Micah's favor, and an evening out over the long run as incompetence is neutral in it's alignment. It is incompetent for everyone.

We don't see any of that, therefor It is intentional. Occam's razor.
 

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Only Myles Garrett and the Browns have even remotely close to the gripe that Parsons and the Cowboys have. While Parsons does not get any holding calls, the Cowboys sure do as they are top two in the league for both offensive and defensive holding penalties. The Browns are the only other team in the top 10 (6th and 9th) for both.
I wonder how the calls against their opponents compare, though. I mean, Dallas has 25 offensive holding calls. Does anyone know how many offensive holding calls their opponents have been called for in their games against the Cowboys? I can live with the same calls being made or not made against both teams. It's the inconsistency I can't stand.
 

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I believe this was posted in another thread. I considered this position by Blandino. And the comments made by others who suggest this will not change. Partly because Parson's doesn't sell the hold well. Or he is such a brutal man he plays through the hold, which confuses the ref. Or the incompetency of the refs. Or the refs just aren't calling them. There were many options postulated on this subject.

I'm not so certain I agree with the outcome others proffered.

I believe now that Blandino has spoken, there could be a change in how these infractions are ruled.

However, back in the day Joe Gibbs of the Commanders sent a short video every week to the league officials pointing out issues where the refs didn't make the right call, or any call at all. If I recall correctly, that did have somewhat of an result in favor of the Commanders. Perhaps Jerry should take a cue from this and have the video team create a Parson's is held video every week and inundate the league with visual evidence Parson's and the Dallas Cowboys are being unfairly treated.

I'd like to add I used the original name of the team from Washington D.C., the one Dallas thumped yesterday. You will note the board changed it to their current name.

So I will go back to calling them the Commodores since using the name they played under for decades is verboten. Silliness abounds in these latest days.
I just really enjoyed reading this post. Liked.
 

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I wonder how the calls against their opponents compare, though. I mean, Dallas has 25 offensive holding calls. Does anyone know how many offensive holding calls their opponents have been called for in their games against the Cowboys? I can live with the same calls being made or not made against both teams. It's the inconsistency I can't stand.
Here's the Cowboys and all other playoff teams with penalties called for that team and called against opponents (declined penalties in parenthesis and negative ratio teams in red). While you're at it, check out our ratios on all other penalty types, particularly illegal contact.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/offensive-holding?year=2023

Cowboys 25 (4) for, 14 (8) against opponents
Miami 25 (1) for, 17 (5) against opponents
KC 25 (6) for, 10 (2) against opponents
Buffalo 24 (7) for, 17 (3) against opponents
Cleveland 21 (5) for, 16 (4) against opponents

Tampa Bay 20 (5) for, 20 (3) against opponents
Houston 20 (1) for, 18 (6) against opponents
Green Bay 19 (5) for, 21 (4) against opponents
Detroit 19 (3) for, 19 (6) against opponents
LA Rams 18 (4) for, 19 (7) against opponents
Baltimore 17 (2) for, 17 (3) against opponents
San Fran 16 (2) for, 11 (3) against opponents
Pittsburgh 13 (7) for, 19 (5) against opponents
Philly 7 (1) for, 17 (7) against opponents
 
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Here's the Cowboys and all other playoff teams with penalties called for that team and called against opponents (declined penalties in parenthesis and negative ratio teams in red). While you're at it, check out our ratios on all other penalty types, particularly illegal contact.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty/offensive-holding?year=2023

Cowboys 25 (4) for, 14 (8) against opponents
Miami 25 (1) for, 17 (5) against opponents
KC 25 (6) for, 10 (2) against opponents
Buffalo 24 (7) for, 17 (3) against opponents
Cleveland 21 (5) for, 16 (4) against opponents

Tampa Bay 20 (5) for, 20 (3) against opponents
Houston 20 (1) for, 18 (6) against opponents
Green Bay 19 (5) for, 21 (4) against opponents
Detroit 19 (3) for, 19 (6) against opponents
LA Rams 18 (4) for, 19 (7) against opponents
Baltimore 17 (2) for, 17 (3) against opponents
San Fran 16 (2) for, 11 (3) against opponents
Pittsburgh 13 (7) for, 19 (5) against opponents
Philly 7 (1) for, 17 (7) against opponents
Thanks. Would like to see that closer, but compared to KC (at least), we had it good.
 

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So the hold only counts if it stops him completely. Fighting through the holds is working against Parsons getting the call!
Complete BS! If they start calling holds the game would be 30 min longer.
It’s more likely they’d stop holding. The opposing coaches see what’s been allowed against our D and instructed their players accordingly.
 

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Right. If an offensive line grabs him by the collar and he's able to break free from it, that doesn't mean he wasn't impeded even if he gets a pressure since he could have possibly had a sack. I think it's a no harm, no foul type thinking that needs to change. They are inhibiting his ability to get a sack, which is harm. I would be all over the officials as often as allowed as a team to try to get them to acknowledge that those are holds and should be called.
Exactly. That’s why I’d be sending film every week to league office and priming officials every pre game. May not help but can’t hurt
 

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This is why I constantly bring up the wording of the rule. "Material restriction" implies that some restriction is fine. So if you can effectively fight off what might have been a material restriction to a mere mortal, it only looks like acceptable restriction at those speeds. So it combines with the other wording about the defender's path to the ball and if it looks like his path is not being impacted then he doesn't look like one who's being held. But that will never fly when there are "46 Quarters, OMG!" headlines out there.
"46 quarters OMG" is a valid reaction even without a deep dive. It's nearly impossible for a player of Micah's caliber to go that long, rush that frequently, and not force a penalty. Just through common sense and law of averages. That's before getting to the numerous times he's been blatantly held for all to see. I'll give you credit, you've been able to present logical arguments against some of them and present intricacies and wonky-isms of the rules, but there is still no way to hand wave away the fact he's gone so many games without a single hold called.

Also, haven't gone back to his previous seasons to compare, but against his contemporaries he's got the highest amount of pressures and pressure rates and the lowest penalties called for outside of khalil mack who has 2 holds against him and 20+ less pressures, and aaron donald who also has 2 holds and 20+ less pressures. They both also have a substantially lower pressure rate. There's just really no valid justification. And at this point since blandino is openly admitting even one instance is a hold, it completely invalidates any argument to the contrary, because that single hold > 0
 
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