Defense Don't Win Championships In Todays NFL

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The Chiefs offense didn't win that game last night. It was a defensive score and a special teams return to the 5 yard line.
Your ruining his "Dak " shot, because most of us didnt already know KC has a better QB than the other 31 teams in the NFL.
 

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It takes balance. The Chiefs did just enuff defensively and with Special teams 2 get a win. Teams win. Phillys achilles heel was special teams and the Head Coach being greedy 2 many times. Reid tk advantage.
 

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Your ruining his "Dak " shot, because most of us didnt already know KC has a better QB than the other 31 teams in the NFL.
Better than 1000s of past teams also.

Mahomes is playing better than 99%+ of QBs to ever play.
 

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Although Mahomes was terrific in the second half KC’s defense played a big part in them winning the game. They had a defensive score and made some critical stops in the second half.
 

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Although Mahomes was terrific in the second half KC’s defense played a big part in them winning the game. They had a defensive score and made some critical stops in the second half.
KC's defense stopped the run forcing Hurts to carry the team, the Philly RB's combined for 17 carries for 45 yds. The KC defense started getting pressure in the 2nd half and yes, did get some crucial stops. KC wasn't flashy or dominant, but they did what they needed to help get the win.
 

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KC's defense stopped the run forcing Hurts to carry the team, the Philly RB's combined for 17 carries for 45 yds. The KC defense started getting pressure in the 2nd half and yes, did get some crucial stops. KC wasn't flashy or dominant, but they did what they needed to help get the win.
He played a hell of a game. Not sure if I would say it was better, but definitely on par at worst.

What I meant is that Patrick Mahomes in 2023 is playing as well as any QB ever.
 

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"What we pay Prescott now is 4 years ago."

How do you even have a halfway intelligent conversation with these people?
We signed Prescott years ago….he’s inching toward being paid closer to the middle of the league. The team we have now is talented. It does have a good defense. crying about 4 years ago now is immaterial to the fact that a quarterback of his talent needs help around him and balance is key. It also completely ignores we have been able to put talent around him

Which brings us back to the context of this post which is “defense doesn’t win championships” Well maybe it doesn’t mean as much when you have a qb like mahomes but for a team like ours it certainly does and while It’s much easier to have a quarterback on a rookie deal we have built a more than capable roster here.

Now we need dak to lean on a defense and a running game and elevate us when he can but not ask him to do it all the time. It’s very simple twinkle twinkle just follow along. I know tweets are more your speed bc they are short and not original points of yours but I believe in you twinkle twinkle
 

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At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.
Many fans, and even owners think that too, but they are wrong. Tampa Bay and the Rams won their Superbowls in big part because they had very good defenses, not dominant defenses.

In todays NFL a DOMINANT D can still win Superbowls, even if they don’t have a pass happy offense with a 35-45 million dollar QB. I think if we really focused on adding a couple dominant pieces to our D, with Quinn as our coordinator, we could win a Superbowl as Dak as the Bus Driver!
 

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Many fans, and even owners think that too, but they are wrong. Tampa Bay and the Rams won their Superbowls in big part because they had very good defenses, not dominant defenses.

In todays NFL a DOMINANT D can still win Superbowls, even if they don’t have a pass happy offense with a 35-45 million dollar QB. I think if we really focused on adding a couple dominant pieces to our D, with Quinn as our coordinator, we could win a Superbowl as Dak as the Bus Driver!
The Bucs won their Super Bowl because the Chiefs lost all of their offensive tackles.
 

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Although Mahomes was terrific in the second half KC’s defense played a big part in them winning the game. They had a defensive score and made some critical stops in the second half.
And the difference was that the Eagles defense often benefited from a combination of their team having a lead and facing a majority of below average to subpar QBs outside of 4-5 all season long. And even if some of those games the offense for the Eagles stalled out in the 2nd half, but just were lucky that most of the QBs they faced during those games weren't good enough to be able to perform a complete come back against the Eagles.

For as good as the Eagles have been this season, their problems with stalling in the 2nd half of games continued all season and I said that it would eventually cost them against the better QBs in the NFL if they couldn't find a way to play for a complete 4th quarter. They made it to the Super Bowl by the luck of the draw of playing Daniel Jones and Josh Johnson. But even as the Eagles started off the game with an impressive drive, I mentioned how they would have to play for a full four quarters to win. And they couldn't on the defensive side of the ball and their offense stalled just enough to give Mahomes a chance to come back. Eagles fans always insisted that the Eagles slowing down in 2nd half of games was done intentionally because they had leads in this games. But it appears more likely that the Eagles just aren't a great 2nd half team a lot of the time.
 

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I think that Hurts played better than Mahomes.
He did in the first half but it was all Mahomes in the second half. Mahomes ended up having a better game. Hurts had more passing and rushing yards but that was it. Mahomes had more TDs, a higher completion percentage and finished with a better passer rating. When the game was on the line in the fourth quarter he made plays. Plus Hurts had a critical turnover that led to a defensive score. That helped cost them the game. Mahomes played mistake free football.
 

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At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.
Maybe, but they don’t hurt. With Hurts playing one of his better games, I don’t think KC defense gets enough credit. They found a way to shut down the Eagles RBs completely. They held Philly to only 11 points in the second half, giving up the one blown pass to Smith. They stopped rushing and kept Hurts in the pocket the second half…..11 points despite very good QB play. That’s impressive defense because without that defense, KC couldn’t have closed the gap.

Despite the Eagles very good defense based on their pass rush, coaching mattered. KC max protected outside all game, and not one miss, not one mistake by either RB…..0 sacks vs a QB known for holding the ball. Other than when the coverage was great, Mahommes wasn’t even rushed or hurried often. That’s amazing that they didn’t beat the OL a single time for a breakaway sack.

Clearly offense won the game, but coaching and defense played a huge part. KC took away what the Eagles love to do most…..run. With KCs suspect secondary, playing 2 rookies, I’m still shocked that Hurts wasn’t finding receivers wide open more often because Spags had that defense daring him to beat them from the pocket or running left. 17 rushes for 45 by the RBs, and despite 2 longer runs by Hurts in the first half, only a total of 32 rushes for 115 yards. KC balled both halves, and the defense all but shut down Philly in the second half.
 

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At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.
You live, eat, sleep Dak. Seek help.
 
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