Defense Don't Win Championships In Todays NFL

[kskboys]

I mentioned Mahomes in order for any reader to reply suggesting I was lessening his impact on the game. It is the OP's main contention that Mahomes' contribution outweighs anything that the defense did last night.

The defense did help win last night as well. Agreed, the defense scored on an easy gift turnover but it did happen. It was not a mirage. And it was neither Kansas City's offense nor Mahomes who tacked those points on the scoreboard.

It is my opinion, which may not be shared with many others, that the 'defense wins championships' analogy will always be applicable if-and-until a Super Bowl is decided by offense alone. No punts. No turnovers. No sacks. No safeties. No interceptions. No pass deflections. No tackles behind the line of scrimmage. Etc.

In other words, the phrase will remain acceptable for me if-and-until the National Football League converts to flag football. I mean, beyond the Pro Bowl that is. lol.

And to add, it takes a D to even get there. Don't forget KC's amazing D performance vs Cincy.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Due to a Defensive TD. See, D wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eagles still got a 10 point lead after that.

Stop. It.

 

[kskboys]

I agree completely.

I also think that the the old wisdom of defense wins championships has less value then it did in the good old days, when the top dogs are facing off with everything on the line.

Not a Chiefs fan on the planet wanted the Eagles to get the ball back with enough time to do something.

I would say instead of less value, simply a value w/ very different parameters.

 

[kskboys]

Eagles still got a 10 point lead after that.

Stop. It.

And couldn't stop KC in the 2nd half. D wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

And couldn't stop KC in the 2nd half. D wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol okay

 

[Nova]

We're like 2 years removed from a defense taking it to Mahomes and Co.

 

[DallasEast]

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[DallasEast]

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[Reid1boys]

Elite QBs w/ Defenses.

elite QBs with ADEQUATE defenses.... you just cant have horrible.

 

[shabazz]

It's not.

You have to have a QB that you can count on in games like last night.

The Cowboys don't.

How many times in 7 years has Dak lead the Cowboys back after being down 10 points?

Yup, even when the Eagles had early momentum and threatened to put the game out of reach, we all knew a QB like Mahomes was not gonna let that happen.

 

[shabazz]

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I’m surprised anybody would be in an ILL mood today…..the Eagles DID lose which was all we had to hang our hat on.

 

[FVSTONE]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

The rules of the game don't allow defensive games anymore and if a score get's a little lopsided it's because the other offense isn't clicking that day.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I’m surprised anybody would be in an ILL mood today…..the Eagles DID lose which was all we had to hang our hat on.

A lot of these guys are Eagles fans.....Pappy already said he was rooting for them to win. A lot of people were.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Hard to argue with you after last nights game.
Unfortunity, we dont have a QB that can take us home consistently.

It's hard to go far in the playoffs, much less even make it to the playoffs, if your QB has no weapons to throw to, no rushing attack because your Oline struggles to open any holes to run through, and horrible passing routes/concepts and playcalling.

 

[DallasEast]

I’m surprised anybody would be in an ILL mood today…..the Eagles DID lose which was all we had to hang our hat on.

It would be a dream come true for me personally if most members' ill will was focused more upon Philadelphia today but that is just my selfish thought.

 

[shabazz]

It would be a dream come true for me personally if most members' ill will was focused more upon Philadelphia today but that is just my selfish thought.

It’s natural to lash out at the people closest to us…….it happens is families too.

the good news is that we all have a genuine common goal and I would hope that the fights aren’t of a personal nature……this forum is above that stuff and that’s why its one of the best around

 

[CATCH17]

I believe CATCH17 made a similar post in the past touting a defense that was just good enough to go along in support of a QB who, if he possessed the talent, could get things done if not all personnel positions were pro bowl caliber.
Don't have that in Dallas.
Last night was a very good Eagles defense but a QB and playcaller that were just one step ahead it seemed.

For my opinion it's easy.
Dak can't beat 4 straight playoff opponents regardless of coach, scheme or personnel support.
He is an extremely poor decision maker with the ball in his hands especially in big games.
No amount of coaching, scheme or personnel support can overcome that.

Definition of a team held hostage by QB purgatory.

All my opinions are aging like a fine wine.

There hasn’t been such a thing as elite defense in the NFL for awhile.

The rules don’t allow it. You just do the best you can within those rules.

Hit the QB, cause turnovers, and keep points as low as possible. That’s all you can ask for.

 

[jsb357]

We're like 2 years removed from a defense taking it to Mahomes and Co.

 

[Risen Star]

Cool story but that’s 4 years ago…I’m dealing with the here and now. Balance for this team with this quarterback will be key. you can’t go backwards.

"What we pay Prescott now is 4 years ago."

How do you even have a halfway intelligent conversation with these people?

 

[DallasEast]

It’s natural to lash out at the people closest to us…….it happens is families too.

the good news is that we all have a genuine common goal and I would hope that the fights aren’t of a personal nature……this forum is above that stuff and that’s why its one of the best around

Lash is one thing. Lash is like a sister poking at her brother, running away giggling, with him then yelling, "WILL YOU STOP TOUCHING ME?!"

Some members here do not always poke. They use bazookas. With unlimited ammo.

Click on some threads and find blood and guts everywhere, like a scene outta Daddy Day Care:

/mini rant