Defense Don't Win Championships In Todays NFL

[Zman5]

Why do I feel like you wasn't saying this when we beat the Eagles a few weeks ago?

Why do I feel like you are trying to deflect after being called out on being wrong about the defenses?

 

[quickccc]

- One of the deciding factor ended up being a defensive turnover for a TD runback by the Chiefs (Nick Bolton) ....

- Eagles SB win over Pats end up being decided by a sack and fumble by DE Brandon Graham vs Brady that was decisive in the closing moments that helped preserve and
seal the victory and a SB.

- Cowboys scored 52 points over Bills for a SB victory but let's not forget the sack strips and fumble recoveries for defensive runbacks for TDs, or setting up near goal line for eventually TDs .

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Why do I feel like you are trying to deflect after being called out on being wrong about the defenses?

Yeah.

That 1 stat that you define as the end all be all means something.

 

[JonesBoys]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

We live in a vacuum so of course it looks like that's the only way however a few seasons ago a very good TB defense essentially dominated that game and the TB offense didn't have to do much of anything. It can happen but obviously you get more kicks at the can if you have an elite QB. Dallas while having Dak as their QB are going to need to take their already good defense and make it even better to have a chance. While doing that of course you always look for an elite QB but that's not always easy.

 

[Risen Star]

Our quartberack is paid 9th soon to be around 12th-13th twinkle star. 3 qbs in the league can lead a team on their own. Literally almost half of the quarterbacks in the league will be paid that money.

Will take a good defense and a good offense for us fallen star

He feels better.

Whether he's 5th, 8th or 18th highest paid that bum is accounting for roughly 1/4 of your cap and with it comes expectations. He must make players around him better. If he can't then he shouldn't have that contract.

Like it? Don't like it? Don't care.

 

[Zman5]

Yeah.

That 1 stat that you define as the end all be all means something.

That one stat will show more about how good the defense is than getting sacks. After all, stopping other teams from scoring is more important than just getting sacks.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Let’s just look at almost the last decade of super bowl winners. the game has pivoted to be very pro offense and it’s fair to say defensive importance has diminished over the years. However balance has and will always be key. The saying has been “defense wins championships” but really it’s balance wins championships and you need to be able to do both- score the ball and stop the ball.

If anything data shows that stopping the pass is incredibly important. The cowboys don’t have that top 5 qb and some say not top 10 so balance is key for us and about 26 other teams.

Opponent Completion %

2020	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	66.96%	22
2019	Kansas City Chiefs	60.98	5
2018	New England Patriots	59.31	2
2017	Philadelphia Eagles	60.08	13
2016	New England Patriots	62.18	12
2015	Denver Broncos	58.42	4
2014	New England Patriots	58.59	4
2013	Seattle Seahawks	58.71	6

Scoring defenses

2020	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	21.7	7
2019	Kansas City Chiefs	20.2	10
2018	New England Patriots	20.4	6
2017	Philadelphia Eagles	18.2	4
2016	New England Patriots	16.4	1
2015	Denver Broncos	17.9	4
2014	New England Patriots	19.5	7
2013	Seattle Seahawks	14.6	1

“The average offensive ranking of the past 20 Super Bowl champions is 8.4, with the average defensive ranking being 8.2. In order to assess the significance of this slight difference in mean offensive and defensive ranking, I conducted a t-test which resulted in a p-value of 0.45. This implies that Super Bowl winners in the past 20 years do not have a significantly higher defensive ranking than offensive ranking.”

“We were unable to find a significant difference in the offensive and defensive ranking of Super Bowl champions through the past 20 seasons. Throughout the Patriots’ reign, we did not find that they had a significantly better offense or defense in the years of their 6 Super Bowl victories.”

If you look at the offensive edge 8.4 ranking vs the 8.2 defensive ranking that basically shows you there’s not much gap for either side which correlates to balance being the key

 

[CTcowboy203]

He feels better.

Whether he's 5th, 8th or 18th highest paid that bum is accounting for roughly 1/4 of your cap and with it comes expectations. He must make players around him better. If he can't then he shouldn't have that contract.

Like it? Don't like it? Don't care.

Cool story but that’s 4 years ago…I’m dealing with the here and now. Balance for this team with this quarterback will be key. you can’t go backwards.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

You need both. The Eagles lost because their defense was Swiss cheese.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Cool story but that’s 4 years ago…I’m dealing with the here and now. Balance for this team with this quarterback will be key. you can’t go backwards.

The only way you don't go backwards is extended Dak to get even more help around him if possible.

Do you support more years for Dak?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

But before this game. lots of NFL analysts picked the Eagles to win and one of their main reasons for doing so was because they believed the Eagles had a top rated defense which would give Mahomes fits or at least limit him. They thought that the Eagles DL would pressure Mahomes and make the game uncomfortable for him. The fact that they didn't just highlights how defense is still an important factor when it comes to Super Bowl winning teams. The Eagles would have won if their defense stepped up just a couple of times to stop Mahomes in the 2nd half.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You need both. The Eagles lost because their defense was Swiss cheese.

The Eagles defense actually gave up less points than the Chiefs defense.

 

[CTcowboy203]

The only way you don't go backwards is extended Dak to get even more help around him if possible.

Do you support more years for Dak?

I wouldn’t extend him no. Not right now. However, im rationale enough to realize that’s exactly what the franchise will do and if you just look at the math….it’s what they kind of have to do based upon years of kicking the can down the road.

But furthermore dak being extended or not extended wasn’t the context of this post. Your post was “defense doesn’t win championships” but it literally may have last night and the data shows balance is key….meaning both offense AND defense.

The league is definitely slanted more offensively now but most of us now that things are cyclical and while the days of doomsday or steal curtain may be done- defensive is still imperative and incredibly important and absolutely can be a catalyst to a championship season

 

[Hardline]

Defense can still win you championships.

 

[DallasEast]

It is bad enough every interception is the quarterback's fault despite what specifically happens during a play. Now turnovers, excuse me, scoring turnovers by the defense do not factor into determining a championship game?

Eagles Jalen Hurts fumbles the ball.

Chiefs Nick Bolton scoops up the loose ball and runs it in for the score.

Turnover = 6 points.

Game's final score: 38-35

Is some people's NEW football supposed to mean how many points total scored and who does the scoring is irrelevant now? It's JUST the quarterback?

This may be the biggest diss of defense meaning anything in a Super Bowl since Malcolm Butler picked off Russell Wilson at the goal line eight years ago. And the ONLY thing some folks vomited from the mouth afterwards was, "TOM BRADY WON AGAIN!"

 

[Vtwin]

If defense won divisional round games we would have found out if defense could win conference championship games, and maybe even a SB.

But, defense couldn't win the divisional round game so I guess we'll never know.

 

[GRCowboy]

It's not.

You have to have a QB that you can count on in games like last night.

The Cowboys don't.

How many times in 7 years has Dak lead the Cowboys back after being down 10 points?

The only one I remember is the watermelon kick game which would end up being a lost season because Dak would shatter his glass leg 3 games later.

 

[Rogerthat12]

The Chiefs offline was the diff in this one!

Yes, the Chiefs being offline helped as opposed to being online…lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What a joke.

 

[Creeper]

I am willing to go as far as saying defense alone will not win a championship, but if the Eagles had a bit more defense in the 2nd half, I think they may have won. The question we need to ask is if the Eagles defense was overrated since KC score 38 and Dallas with Dak scored 40 on them.