Defensive Player of the Year

[The Panch]

Couldn't we skew last year and say the same thing about Greg Ellis? After all, our defensive meltdown coincided with his absence. Somehow, Greg missed out on the hype machine that Bob Sanders has achieved for results that can't be quantified.

"What does Bob Sanders excel at?"

"Beats me, but one year his team's defense improved upon his return and people talked about that alot..."

Greg Ellis has the same qualifications...only noone talks about it alot.

Early in the year, I managed to watch alot of Colts games, and to be quite honest Nick Harper was the more impressive player.

The attention Demarcus Ware brings to the line is apart of Greg's success. Who's the attention getter responsible for Bob's success?? You're comparing two entirely different players at two entirely different positions with two entirely different purposes.

 

[theogt]

Couldn't we skew last year and say the same thing about Greg Ellis? After all, our defensive meltdown coincided with his absence. Somehow, Greg missed out on the hype machine that Bob Sanders has achieved for results that can't be quantified.

"What does Bob Sanders excel at?"

"Beats me, but one year his team's defense improved upon his return and people talked about that alot..."

Greg Ellis has the same qualifications...only noone talks about it alot.

Early in the year, I managed to watch alot of Colts games, and to be quite honest Nick Harper was the more impressive player.

It's gotta be the height thing. People see a 5'8" dude lay a hit and they go nuts. If only Dat had been on a good team.

Maybe Ware could eat a cricket. That seems to endear fans.

The attention Demarcus Ware brings to the line is apart of Greg's success. Who's the attention getter responsible for Bob's success?? You're comparing two entirely different players at two entirely different positions with two entirely different purposes.

Wow, that entire post flew right over your head.

 

[The Panch]

Wow, that entire post flew right over your head.

Sure, but you're attempt to downplay Sanders' talent by saying his look has a "Wow!" factor, didnt.

 

[superpunk]

The attention Demarcus Ware brings to the line is apart of Greg's success. Who's the attention getter responsible for Bob's success?? You're comparing two entirely different players at two entirely different positions with two entirely different purposes.

Please read post again, and respond with respect to "unquantifiable results"....if that makes any sense. I could respond to your post, but it would just frustrate me, so let's try again.



I do like the idea of Ware eating a cricket....although it doesn't seem to matter who we trot out at FB now'days.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Bob Sanders ate a railroad car full of crickets.

Or at least, he could if he wanted to.

 

[Rampage]

If he wins, it's more proof of an anti-Cowboys bias in the media. Sanders is great at his position, but DeMarcus deserves it.

not that's stupid. nobody really stands out for defensive player of the the year. also anybody find it funny how the guys trashing sanders are the biggest roy homer on the board?

 

[SultanOfSix]

not that's stupid. nobody really stands out for defensive player of the the year. also anybody find it funny how the guys trashing sanders are the biggest roy homer on the board?

I guess you didn't really understand my post.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I knew Roy would be mentioned in this thread

Rampage is so far up Roy's butt, it's not even funny

 

[Rampage]

I knew Roy would be mentioned in this thread

Rampage is so far up Roy's butt, it's not even funny

and you're trying to work your way up mine

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and you're trying to work your way up mine

w/ a broken, glass bottle

I almost want Roy to get cut just to get your juvenille arse to leave

 

[Chuck 54]

I love DWare, but I'd give it to Patrick Willis, LB above DWare...that kid deserves D rookie and player, imo.

4 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 174 tackles...wow. Compared to Ware's 14 sacks, 4 fumbles, and 84 tackles, I have to overlook the sacks from a pass rusher who is great at it and compare the 84 tackles to Willis's 174. That's quite a year.

Sanders had 96 tackles, 3.5 sacks, and 2 interceptions.

The only area that Ware stands huge in is the sacks, and he didn't lead the league, so I don't see him winning the award.

Ware's stats compare to Patrick Kearney's 14.5 sacks, 60 tackles, and 5 forced fumbles from a down lineman.

Kearney and Allen both had more sacks than Ware, and Mario Williams tied him.

But when you look at tackles, no one was even in the same world as Willis...he had 27 more solo tackles than anyone else in the league and 33 more total tackles...that's impressive to me and incredible for a rookie.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I love DWare, but I'd give it to Patrick Willis, LB above DWare...that kid deserves D rookie and player, imo.

4 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 174 tackles...wow. Compared to Ware's 14 sacks, 4 fumbles, and 84 tackles, I have to overlook the sacks from a pass rusher who is great at it and compare the 84 tackles to Willis's 174. That's quite a year.

Sanders had 96 tackles, 3.5 sacks, and 2 interceptions.

The only area that Ware stands huge in is the sacks, and he didn't lead the league, so I don't see him winning the award.

Ware's stats compare to Patrick Kearney's 14.5 sacks, 60 tackles, and 5 forced fumbles from a down lineman.

Kearney and Allen both had more sacks than Ware, and Mario Williams tied him.

But when you look at tackles, no one was even in the same world as Willis...he had 27 more solo tackles than anyone else in the league and 33 more total tackles...that's impressive to me and incredible for a rookie.

barely, and he has quite a few more tackles

Willis has double the tackles that Ware does, yet Ware has more than double the sacks that WIllis has, that will sway the voters in his favor, not to mention the pub Ware has been getting, it will be tight between Ware and Kerney

 

[Rampage]

w/ a broken, glass bottle

I almost want Roy to get cut just to get your juvenille arse to leave

:laugh2: dude your 3 years older than me.

 

[TheHerd]

I love DWare, but I'd give it to Patrick Willis, LB above DWare...that kid deserves D rookie and player, imo.

4 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and 174 tackles...wow. Compared to Ware's 14 sacks, 4 fumbles, and 84 tackles, I have to overlook the sacks from a pass rusher who is great at it and compare the 84 tackles to Willis's 174. That's quite a year.

Sanders had 96 tackles, 3.5 sacks, and 2 interceptions.

The only area that Ware stands huge in is the sacks, and he didn't lead the league, so I don't see him winning the award.

Ware's stats compare to Patrick Kearney's 14.5 sacks, 60 tackles, and 5 forced fumbles from a down lineman.

Kearney and Allen both had more sacks than Ware, and Mario Williams tied him.

But when you look at tackles, no one was even in the same world as Willis...he had 27 more solo tackles than anyone else in the league and 33 more total tackles...that's impressive to me and incredible for a rookie.

Willis had a great year for a rookie, but did you watch any of those games? He had a lot of tackles after 5+ yard runs for first downs.
The defense was on the field a LOT because they were really bad and their offense was anemic.

Doesn't the media vote for these awards? If so, how can a Patriot not win it?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

:laugh2: dude your 3 years older than me.

and more mature and better educated

 

[Rampage]

yet more mature and better educated

yeah cause you have already mentioned 2 times how you would like to hurt me. real mature

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yeah cause you have already mentioned 2 times how you would like to hurt me. real mature

aaawww, don't be scurred

 

[Rampage]

aaawww, don't be scurred

:laugh2: i'm shaking in my boots

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I remember starting a thread about this a couple of weeks ago...

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

D-Ware should win DPOY, he changes the game more than anyone regardless of defensive position because he's so versitile...