News: Demarcus Lawrence To Be Suspended For Failed Drug Test

[Zimmy Lives]

Hardy come on down

Wouldn't hurt at this point.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Laughing at us why? Because we didn't want to baby sit him too? Really don't think anyone cares whether Johnny is laughing or puking his guts out.

yea, as we have player after player test positive for drugs, the one thing I'm not thinking that will make this better is that *** clown at QB, so I couldn't care less if he's laughing at us

 

[superonyx]

I thought they changed the way this drug was classified? Orlando Scnadrick tested positive and was supposed to be suspended 4 games, then the NFLPA and the NFL reached some kind of settlement and his suspension was reduced to two games and I thought going forward it was going to be treated as a drug, not performance enhancing? Maybe this just isn't his first positive test?

I read about Richard Sherman and a few other Seahawks getting caught using it also. It said its now on the list of drugs you can use with a medical exception. This drug has become so over prescribed in our country. It's incredibly easy to get a script for it also.

I personally don't believe people should be taking it (except in severe ADHD cases). It loses effectiveness over time and needs increasing doses which can lead to heart and blood pressure issues. However, classifying this as performance enhancing like Steroids is just ignoring the real differences between the 2.

If Lawrence wants or needs this stimulant he should just get a prescription for it and stop throwing his money and career down the toilet.

 

[cowboyblue22]

well this is kinda how last season started out with every thing else I still think this is a 8 win team if they are really lucky

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I read about Richard Sherman and a few other Seahawks getting caught using it also. It said its now on the list of drugs you can use with a medical exception. This drug has become so over prescribed in our country. It's incredibly easy to get a script for it also.

I personally don't believe people should be taking it (except in severe ADHD cases). It loses effectiveness over time and needs increasing doses which can lead to heart and blood pressure issues. However, classifying this as performance enhancing like Steroids is just ignoring the real differences between the 2.

If Lawrence wants or needs this stimulant he should just get a prescription for it and stop throwing his money and career down the toilet.

That's the reason why I think he is such a nimrod as of this moment. If he needs it, he can easily get it prescribed. I hope that he comes out with some believable excuse on why he would be taking it without one, but I don't see it at the moment. Man, I'm so sour today over this.

 

[Bullflop]

This almost points to us grabbing Bosa, but then again, we may start the year with Bosa suspended too lol

The fact that Bosa saw fit to separate himself from those who might be a negative influence upon his future career should be considered as a major positive.

Most guys fail to do so and continue to stick around those friends who pose a threat. Let's not just assume he's hopeless. Anyone is entitled to one mistake.

 

[CyberB0b]

Which levels?
Caffeine is also banned by the NCAA and in the same stimulant category as Adderall.
Any sports performance gains come from stimulating the central nervous system. Just like caffeine.

Stimulant is a very broad classification. It's like classifying an 18 wheeler and a Toyota Prius as motor vehicles. Yes, that is true, but there is a huge difference between the two.

Chemically, caffeine is quite a bit different than amphetamines. They act on different parts of the brain and trigger different chemical responses. Legally, they are quite different. You can't pick up a cup of amphetamines from Starbucks or McDonald's.

The point is, one is banned while the other is different. He should know better.

 

[Plankton]

As bad as it has been with the DE situation with Gregory and Lawrence eliminating themselves for the first quarter of the season, and Hardy not buying into the team concept completely, the Cowboys cannot make their strategy based on fixing this issue with the 4th pick in a reactive manner. They will increase the likelihood of busting the pick by pigeonholing themselves.

At this point, I don't think that taking DE at 4 will be a good selection. I am not a Bosa fan. If DE was something that they want to focus on in the first, I would prefer trading down and getting Shaq Lawson if possible. It will be interesting to see what happens if Tunsil is available at the Cowboys pick, and the Titans call about a trade up.

 

[silver]

As bad as it has been with the DE situation with Gregory and Lawrence eliminating themselves for the first quarter of the season, and Hardy not buying into the team concept completely, the Cowboys cannot make their strategy based on fixing this issue with the 4th pick in a reactive manner. They will increase the likelihood of busting the pick by pigeonholing themselves.

At this point, I don't think that taking DE at 4 will be a good selection. I am not a Bosa fan. If DE was something that they want to focus on in the first, I would prefer trading down and getting Shaq Lawson if possible. It will be interesting to see what happens if Tunsil is available at the Cowboys pick, and the Titans call about a trade up.

What about a 3 tech like Buckner?

 

[superonyx]

Stimulant is a very broad classification. It's like classifying an 18 wheeler and a Toyota Prius as motor vehicles. Yes, that is true, but there is a huge difference between the two.

Chemically, caffeine is quite a bit different than amphetamines. They act on different parts of the brain and trigger different chemical responses. Legally, they are quite different. You can't pick up a cup of amphetamines from Starbucks or McDonald's.

The point is, one is banned while the other is different. He should know better.

We agree that it's banned and he should know better.
We also agree that both are stimulants and act on different parts of the brain. My point is not to downplay amphetamines as a drug to stay away from.
My point was that the league needs to stop classifying stimulants as performance enhancing drugs when they are not enhancing performance in any way that other legal, accepted stimulants enhance performance. If they were so bad and gave users such a performance advantage over everyone else then they wouldn't justify creating a medical exception for their use. Doing so would give an unfair advantage to guys who have a prescription like Richard Sherman. I don't see the league granting players exceptions for anabolic steroid or HGH use. This type of exception would give players an unfair advantage.

 

[Frosty]

well this is kinda how last season started out with every thing else I still think this is a 8 win team if they are really lucky

Sure looks like the 2015....4-12 cowboys had more issues than injuries.....its bleeding into the 2016 season and its not even started yet....good grief.

 

[guag]

Aren't there prescription based amphetamines for legitimate medicinal purposes?

Yup.

Adderall (l- & d-amphetamine salts combo), Dexedrine (d-amphetamine), and even pharmaceutical methamphetamine (Desoxyn).

Each are primarily prescribed for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder), with occasional scripts given for obesity and narcolepsy.

Source: I have ADHD

 

[gambit187]

sure, what better player for our young dopeheads to look up to?

I'm sorry but Hardy issue was he got involved with a coke head chick that knows how to float from man to man as long as that man has a certain amount of money and status. I can't fault a big dumb country boy for falling for that. If he was raised in the big cities like LA or NY he would not have fallen for her womanly ways.

If Hardy never catches another assault charge in his life against man or woman, I wonder what people will be saying. For someone that is supposed to be SO ABUSIVE he has never had that charge before and after all he has been through has managed to not put his hands on anyone or lash out in anger in public.......hummmmmmm

 

[texbumthelife]

I don't believe pain killers are amphetamines or have them in them. Pain killers are opiates in the same family as heroine. Amphetamines are stimulants like meth and Adderrall, Vyvanse ect. I read he went back to Boise St to finish his degree this offseason. Adderrall is a very popular and very available study drug used on college campuses these days to help students stay mentally sharp or focused.

My concern is that he tested positive 4 times. Once you hit that third strike and get fined 4 game checks and yet you continue to use a drug then it moves beyond just taking a study aid and into a real addiction.

You're right. As George so humbly pointed out, Adderall is this issue.

 

[Doomsday101]

As has been said before it takes a 4th failed test to get suspended, so there is no excuse that can be made for any of these players. I would warn both Gregory and Lawrence the next one and you are gone. Missing games due to injury will happen in this sport and not much you can do about it but there is something you can do about using weed or other banned substance and that is stop.

 

[fortdick]

Looks like Bosa is the pick.

And Lawrence is his connection

 

[guag]

As has been said before it takes a 4th failed test to get suspended, so there is no excuse that can be made for any of these players. I would warn both Gregory and Lawrence the next one and you are gone. Missing games due to injury will happen in this sport and not much you can do about it but there is something you can do about using weed or other banned substance and that is stop.

I thought that amphetamines were considered PEDs, which are an automatic 4-game suspension for a first offense. So this could be DLaw's first time (haven't read through the entire thread, apologies if this has already been confirmed/refuted).

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I thought that amphetamines were considered PEDs, which are an automatic 4-game suspension for a first offense. So this could be DLaw's first time (haven't read through the entire thread, apologies if this has already been confirmed/refuted).

we likely won't get confirmation until it's announced, but I'm pretty sure that an amphetamines positive test in the offseason is considered a drug, but during the season, a PED

 

[Doomsday101]

NFL grants exemptions
Players who have legitimate cause to use Adderall can gain a therapeutic-use exemption from the NFL. The league always has granted exemptions, but Birch said the policy used to allow a player to obtain one after a failed test. Within the past five years, the rule changed to require players to obtain an exemption before using Adderall.
Getting an exemption isn't as simple as getting a prescription. According to Denver-area adult ADHD specialist Dr. William Dodson, a doctor must provide an exhaustive evaluation, which then goes to the league, where it is reviewed by one or more independent specialists. It also requires a doctor who treated the player in adolescence to confirm his childhood history. The league pays for the process.
"It's a very rigorous process because we're concerned about the competitive implications of the issue, we're concerned about the health effects, and we're concerned about the message to young athletes," Birch said.
Dodson said players who need the drug don't gain any advantage from taking it; it simply brings their focus even with the rest of the players. He said few of the football players he has treated use it when they play. Most of them use it for studying playbooks and game film.
Awareness an issue
But many of last year's suspended players claimed they didn't realize the drug was banned, and the NFL wants to eliminate that excuse. Several Broncos players have noticed an increased effort to make sure all players are aware of the policy.
"I get an e-mail probably once a week or so (from the NFL) of a new drug or a new supplement that's banned," Woodyard said. "You've just got to stay on top of it. There's a lot of stuff we really don't know about, but that's why you've got to use your resources."
Broncos rookie wide receiver Tavarres King said he had teammates at Georgia who were prescribed Adderall, though he didn't know of any issues with misuse. NFL rookies are required to attend meetings that explain the drug policy.
"The biggest thing they talk about in meetings is to know what's going in your body," King said. "If somebody's doing that, they know what they're doing."
Birch said the NFL's message is clear: Before you use any drug, get it cleared with a team physician.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/c...leagues-deal-players-use-amphetamine-adderall
"The key to understanding is to make sure people know they've got to get these things checked out and approved," Birch said. "That's a message we have to say constantly. There's not much more that we can do, but you do have to be consistent with messaging."

 

[cowboyblue22]

I thought the panthers made a bold move with norman would help if the cowboys would make a bold move sometimes and cut duds from the team maybe others would think differently if there was consequences for your actions.