Twitter: Details from Lewis's court appearance

[Doomsday101]

It will be interesting if a civil suite is filed in this case.

 

[Bullflop]

Seriously what was he thinking

That's hard to say. He probably should have just left the house, never to return.

 

[zrinkill]

 

[gimmesix]

If he knocked her down and choked her across the floor and she showed no bruising or the like then it's a miracle

There are multiple ways you can drag someone without it showing any bruising. You can put your hands around someone's throat forcefully without it bruising them. Both of those are intimidation techniques that fall within the range of domestic violence.

I don't think a lot of these players understand that just because they didn't punch their girlfriend/wife in the face doesn't mean they didn't abuse them. Now, the onus is on the victim in such cases to prove that the abuse occurred because without physical signs of abuse, it primarily becomes he said, she said.

I just don't want us to exonerate Lewis of abusive behavior because it was a "pillow fight." Maybe that's all it was, but I'm not assuming anything. If he did it, again he deserves whatever he gets. For our team's sake, I hope that's not much (or that he will be found not guilty). For his sake, if it did occur, I just hope he comes to understand what abuse is and keeps himself from doing that in any way.

Going back to the Greg Hardy signing (which I was in favor of), we have a tendency to either think the worst of the "victim" or make light of their claims. We could be absolutely right that these women are crazy or money-hungry or making a big deal out of nothing. Because we weren't there, we could be absolutely wrong as well. I'm not siding with the victim, but I do think we need to consider the possibility that what she is saying is the truth.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

It did say he dragged her across the floor.

Perhaps it was a magic carpet ride after the pillow fight.

 

[CooterBrown]

The prosecutor's inexperience shows in his opening statement. That bodes well for Lewis.

 

[diefree666]

There are multiple ways you can drag someone without it showing any bruising. You can put your hands around someone's throat forcefully without it bruising them. Both of those are intimidation techniques that fall within the range of domestic violence.

I don't think a lot of these players understand that just because they didn't punch their girlfriend/wife in the face doesn't mean they didn't abuse them. Now, the onus is on the victim in such cases to prove that the abuse occurred because without physical signs of abuse, it primarily becomes he said, she said.

I just don't want us to exonerate Lewis of abusive behavior because it was a "pillow fight." Maybe that's all it was, but I'm not assuming anything. If he did it, again he deserves whatever he gets. For our team's sake, I hope that's not much (or that he will be found not guilty). For his sake, if it did occur, I just hope he comes to understand what abuse is and keeps himself from doing that in any way.

Going back to the Greg Hardy signing (which I was in favor of), we have a tendency to either think the worst of the "victim" or make light of their claims. We could be absolutely right that these women are crazy or money-hungry or making a big deal out of nothing. Because we weren't there, we could be absolutely wrong as well. I'm not siding with the victim, but I do think we need to consider the possibility that what she is saying is the truth.

If he did have his hands around her throat and dragged her while doing that then there WOULD be bruising.

 

[gimmesix]

I hope this is dismissed and he's found innocent of charges, meaning he said/she said....no witnesses, no pictures of her bruised neck by his fingers.

I can tell you if a man controlled my daughter by choking her with hands on throat, I'd be going Sonny Corleon on his butt or hiring some guys. I hope none of that is true.

This is a good way of looking at it for perspective. If my daughter came to me and said her boyfriend hit her with some pillows, I'd probably laugh it off. If he told me that he dragged her across the floor and put his hands forcefully around her neck, that conversation would go differently.

I don't know if I would have her file charges, but I'd certainly want her out of that relationship immediately. By not having her file charges, though, I would feel bad because I'd be enabling him to do the same thing or worse to his next girlfriend.

 

[gimmesix]

If he did have his hands around her throat and dragged her while doing that then there WOULD be bruising.

I don't think the two were the same action. He didn't drag her by the throat as far as we know. It just says he dragged her across the floor AND forcefully put his hands around her throat before leaving.

 

[Philmonroe]

There are multiple ways you can drag someone without it showing any bruising. You can put your hands around someone's throat forcefully without it bruising them. Both of those are intimidation techniques that fall within the range of domestic violence.

I don't think a lot of these players understand that just because they didn't punch their girlfriend/wife in the face doesn't mean they didn't abuse them. Now, the onus is on the victim in such cases to prove that the abuse occurred because without physical signs of abuse, it primarily becomes he said, she said.

I just don't want us to exonerate Lewis of abusive behavior because it was a "pillow fight." Maybe that's all it was, but I'm not assuming anything. If he did it, again he deserves whatever he gets. For our team's sake, I hope that's not much (or that he will be found not guilty). For his sake, if it did occur, I just hope he comes to understand what abuse is and keeps himself from doing that in any way.

Going back to the Greg Hardy signing (which I was in favor of), we have a tendency to either think the worst of the "victim" or make light of their claims. We could be absolutely right that these women are crazy or money-hungry or making a big deal out of nothing. Because we weren't there, we could be absolutely wrong as well. I'm not siding with the victim, but I do think we need to consider the possibility that what she is saying is the truth.

Uh ok Mr Karate man on the bruising with forceful grabbing. Guess the avg person is some next level expert that can control their force that much to drag folks and not a mark come up? Smh at some of y'all trying the wildest stuff to be on the "right" side of things. Its more likely you and others are just scarred to say that maybe the woman isn't telling the truth because of how you feel you would be looked at. I understand I just wish people would say that instead of coming up with the more unlikely situations to justify some bologna.

 

[JoeKing]

Drama drama drama... GF comes home late after partying to BF Lewis sleeping and picks a fight for the lights being on. Pillow fight ensues, allegedly escalates to GF being dragged across the floor and Lewis's hands around her throat before departing the residence. No bruising or marks to indicate any violence occurred. The only evidence is the testimony of GF and Lewis.

His testimony will sink his ship quicker than hers will.

 

[Teague31]

Drama drama drama... GF comes home late after partying to BF Lewis sleeping and picks a fight for the lights being on. Pillow fight ensues, allegedly escalates to GF being dragged across the floor and Lewis's hands around her throat before departing the residence. No bruising or marks to indicate any violence occurred. The only evidence is the testimony of GF and Lewis.

His testimony will sink his ship quicker than hers will.

No way his attorney puts him on the stand if it's going to hurt the case

 

[popp1234]

This is why if i was a famous person i am not picking up girls from the clubs or parties. That's how you get set up. Problem is these dudes going to the hiphop clubs getting in bad situations. Go to a jazz club. Grown and sexy not young and dumb.

Wow!

 

[JoeKing]

No way his attorney puts him on the stand if it's going to hurt the case

Depends on the statements he's already made. There is what he said he said and then there is what he actually said and the police have made record of him saying. You can be assured her attorney will put him on the stand to answer questions.

 

[jwooten15]

It will be interesting if a civil suite is filed in this case.

Death and taxes.

 

[popp1234]

Probably the dumbest thing I've read on CZ in quite some time

To add, it's ignorant.

 

[revospeed]

Depends on the statements he's already made. There is what he said he said and then there is what he actually said and the police have made record of him saying. You can be assured her attorney will put him on the stand to answer questions.

A criminal defendant cannot be compelled to testify, and that if he exercises his right not to testify, the jury cannot use this as any evidence of guilt whatsoever. Her attorney can't put him on the stand unless Jordan agrees to it. Which he won't.

 

[JoeKing]

A criminal defendant can't be compelled to testify. Her attorney can't put him on the stand unless Jordan agrees to it. Which he won't.

Well, alrighty then. Good to know. Thank you. I hope he hasn't already said too much then.

 

[tyke1doe]

My only question is why didn't the court throw it out?

If that's what they are leading with, it sounds like a giant waste of taxpayer dollars. And, an attempt to injure a young man's reputation.

They didn't throw it out because there was a neck grab that followed.

 

[revospeed]

Well, alrighty then. Good to know. Thank you. I hope he hasn't already said too much then.

I think he said something about putting his hands on her neck in the police reports, hopefully that gets clarified.