Dez asking for 17m a year

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I think $1 million a game for a wide receiver is crazy. Fitzgerald and Calvin are different because they have long been the faces of their franchise. And Dez probably doesn't qualify as that for the Cowboys.
 

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however this turns out its not good for the team or the players this kind of stuff can really hurt a team big time but I agree dallas is not going to pay that kind of money to dez, im not sure with his of the field stuff if any team would.
 
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Good point. Up until this point, I've been teetering towards the "just pay the man" side. But if this number is accurate, and Dez & company are unwilling to budge much from there, that changes the game for me. Even something like 14 million is way up there to me, but I could live with it since it's Dez. But 17 million is a deal breaker, and apparently the Cowboys feel the same way. I thought that perhaps the Cowboys have been pinching pennies regarding these Dez negotiations, but it seems that's not the case.

Detroit,,, right now there isn't a single freaking thing I like about that place or its football team. Now they and RocNation have poisoned the mind of our highly suggestible WR,,, $16 mil/yr,,, what were they thinking?
 

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I love the timing of this report. We went several weeks or more without any real information of what's happening. A few days ago, Bryant launches a negotiating tactic across the bow with his "I'm taking my toys and going home, at least for Week 1" stunt.

Now this, which I'm guessing is a leak from the team. I'd also guess it isn't Bryant's real position, but probably their first offer they made long ago. So the team could leak it, and while it has some kernel of truth to it, it isn't really the whole story. Despite that, Dez gets some bad press for wanting so much more money than he's really worth which pushes him closer to the table in negotiations.

Fun stuff, if that's all how it's actually going down.
 

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Pay the man and move on. this team is not going to win games with no Murray. and having T. Williams as it's number one WR. PAY THIS MAN AND MOVE ON.
 

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This is a classic NFL version of what we call padding in the business world. For example, if I know I need 2 new billets for the upcoming year, and I also know the budgeting cyle is traditionally tight, I might as for 4. Once the various rinse cycles transpire, I will ultimately end up with the two I truly needed.

This is no different IMO. Like someone else said, ask for the galaxy and get the moon. Pure negotiation tactics.
 

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after losing murry if we lose dez it may be a long season. boy does this throw cold water on your hopes
 

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Franchising him twice might be the smartest move anyway. Dez might be a top 5 receiver *now*, and even for the next 2-4 yearrs, but paying more than the franchise tag per year just isn't good value for a WR that'll be in his 30s on the backend. Outside of positions that see little contact/don't rely on speed, post-30 is just asking for trouble in the NFL, and contract negotiations need to reflect that.
 

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Pay the man and move on. this team is not going to win games with no Murray. and having T. Williams as it's number one WR. PAY THIS MAN AND MOVE ON.

Who says T. Williams is going to be the #1?

Either Dez plays for the Cowboys the next 2 years or he doesn't play.

And if he doesn't play he has no income and his marketing agreement is worth cat-pooh.

That shouldn't be that hard to understand.
 

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Franchising him twice might be the smartest move anyway. Dez might be a top 5 receiver *now*, and even for the next 2-4 yearrs, but paying more than the franchise tag per year just isn't good value for a WR that'll be in his 30s on the backend. Outside of positions that see little contact/don't rely on speed, post-30 is just asking for trouble in the NFL, and contract negotiations need to reflect that.

If he doesn't agree to a reasonable offer you bet it is.

And the Cowboys would select another WR early in the draft next year.

Let him go and let the Cowboys get a prime comp pick for him.
 

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One of the most dynamic WRs I've seen but you can't cripple the team for a QB-not.
 

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if this is true, Dez's days in Dallas are numbered. I hope this is trial ballon from Condon.
 

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Pay the man and move on. this team is not going to win games with no Murray. and having T. Williams as it's number one WR. PAY THIS MAN AND MOVE ON.

Weren't you emphatic that the team wouldn't sign Hardy because Jerry was being cheap, and you'll believe it when you see it? Is this your new thing, to come in every Dez thread and say the same things repetitively? Why in the world would a "cheap" team turn around and pay 17m/yr to a WR? Or for that matter even 15m/yr?
 

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With the cap starting to increase every year, there's more money available to spend and player's salaries should increase. 17 million might seem like a lot now, but look at the deal the San Diego Chargers just gave to Corey Liuget a 3-4 DE that's never gotten more than 7 sacks a year. His deal averages about $10 million per year and he's a 3-4 freakin DE!

If Dez's deal averages $17 million per year he would account for 11% of our projected total cap space(according to Overthe Cap.com) in 2016, 10% in 2017, 9.4% in 2018, 8.9% in 2018. If you're spending roughly 10% of your cap space on THE BEST offensive skill player on your entire team(not to mention possibly the entire league) and we continue to draft well in the future years w/o having to spend excess money in FA, then I think we're doing alright. I say sign the man!
 

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Yes, it is all aimed at getting the fans to over react and put pressure on the team.

Any fans that are over reacting to the Dez contract issue are therefore part of the problem.
I love the timing of this report. We went several weeks or more without any real information of what's happening. A few days ago, Bryant launches a negotiating tactic across the bow with his "I'm taking my toys and going home, at least for Week 1" stunt.

Now this, which I'm guessing is a leak from the team. I'd also guess it isn't Bryant's real position, but probably their first offer they made long ago. So the team could leak it, and while it has some kernel of truth to it, it isn't really the whole story. Despite that, Dez gets some bad press for wanting so much more money than he's really worth which pushes him closer to the table in negotiations.

Fun stuff, if that's all how it's actually going down.


This is my point earlier. It's all part of the negotiation dance.
 
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