Dez asking for 17m a year

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[MichaelWinicki]

If Dez's deal averages $17 million per year he would account for 11% of our projected total cap space(according to Overthe Cap.com) in 2016, 10% in 2017, 9.4% in 2018, 8.9% in 2018. If you're spending roughly 10% of your cap space on THE BEST offensive skill player on your entire team(not to mention possibly the entire league) and we continue to draft well in the future years w/o having to spend excess money in FA, then I think we're doing alright. I say sign the man!

The best offensive player in the NFL? Wow!

And even if he is... will he be in 3 years? Probably not.

in 5 years definitely not.

Paying him $17 mil per year 3 years from now or even worse 5 years from now is goofy.

Especially when you have your best DT and your best pass rusher coming up on free agency next year.

In addition why pay the guy $34 mil over the next two seasons when you can get him for $7 mil less than that using the franchise tag? That's not good cap management.

 

[kevm3]

As much as I like Dez, there is no way you pay 17 million a year.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

CJohnson was a fluke that won't happen again. He was one of the last players to get a rookie deal under the old terms.

His rookie deal was for 6/55m(Dez was 5/11.8m). His 2012 salary was a scheduled 14m with a 21m cap hit.

To franchise tag him it would've cost 21m for one year and 26m the next. That is 47m for 2 years.

When they signed him to an 7/113m deal with 48m guaranteed they got a relative bargain at 16m APY and 5 more years of contract rights.

Help me understand those franchise tag numbers and correct me if I'm wrong. But the franchise tag for Calvin, which would have came at the end of the 2012 season, would have been 120% of that season's base salary ($14 million) since his base salary surpasses the average of the top 5 WR's base salary ($9.4 million) for 2012. Wouldn't Calvin's franchise tag number be $15.680 million?

 

[Jenky]

In addition why pay the guy $34 mil over the next two seasons when you can get him for $7 mil less than that using the franchise tag? That's not good cap management.

Because a franchise tag tender can't be manipulated to create room for signing guys like Hardy and Crawford.

I would also find it comical if Dallas tagged Bryant again next year and signed Hardy to a lucrative long term deal.

 

[sureletsrace]

I sit Dez down and tell him he has two options.

1) Franchise tag two years in a row and then byebye
2) 5yrs/70m 30m guaranteed.

Make your decision right now.

 

[AsthmaField]

I don't think it is even true. Even if his agents are asking for it, surely nobody expects Dallas to actually pay it.

This falls under the "Much ado about nothing" category.

It is the offseason though, so we will have to put up with crap like this until camp.

What kind of pisses me off is that all the fans of the other 31 teams are eating this stuff up and I wouldn't put it past any of them to simply try to create discord in Dallas. With social media, just about anyone can start just about any rumor and it is reported all across the internet. Public opinion is so easy to sway and change that even if this is complete BS... half of the football fans out there will be saying he wanted $17M two years from now.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Because a franchise tag tender can't be manipulated to create room for signing guys like Hardy and Crawford.

I would also find it comical if Dallas tagged Bryant again next year and signed Hardy to a lucrative long term deal.

The Cowboys haven't done as much of that "manipulation" in their more recent contracts.

Why would it be comical? They franchised Spencer two years on a row and continued to sign guys to long-term deals.

I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I sit Dez down and tell him he has two options.

1) Franchise tag two years in a row and then byebye
2) 5yrs/70m 30m guaranteed.

Make your decision right now.

This type of school yard ultimatum is probably why you aren't in position to "sit Dez down."

 

[Jenky]

The Cowboys haven't done as much of that "manipulation" in their more recent contracts.

Why would it be comical? They franchised Spencer two years on a row and continued to sign guys to long-term deals.

I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

There's so many reasons and I think it sends a bad message. You'd rather workout a long term deal with someone who might only play 6 games (probably not) versus someone who you drafted, played 5 years with and is an elite talent?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

There's so many reasons and I think it sends a bad message. You'd rather workout a long term deal with someone who might only play 6 games (probably not) versus someone who drafted, played 5 years with and is an elite talent?

One has nothing to do with the other.

You're probably in the minority with the opinion that it "sends a bad message".

 

[sureletsrace]

This type of school yard ultimatum is probably why you aren't in position to "sit Dez down."

Probably. I just don't like the negotiation drama being aired out all over every media source there is.

You get used for the last 2 prime years you have and get dumped, or we give you a great contract that you and your loved ones can live your lives out on.

 

[Jenky]

One has nothing to do with the other.

You're probably in the minority with the opinion that it "sends a bad message".

Was anyone on team bummed when DeMarco left?

 

[jday]

If there is any truth to this, I'm with the Franchise for 2 years crowd and then let him get his money somewhere else...where he will never compete for a championship. Perhaps this stat is misleading, but name the team that won a Super Bowl while simultaneously paying a receiver 17 mil a year? There is no way the Cowboys can pay 1 player that amount and have a good mix of talent on both sides of the ball.

 

[joseephuss]

Franchise him for 2 years, let him walk and then sign both Josh Gordan and Justin Blackmon who may be eligible to be reinstated back into the NFL by 2017.

Dallas just needs to be patient. No way are they going to pay that much. Dez knows this. His number will come down. The Cowboys just need to wait it out or stick to the plan with the two year franchise tag.

 

[slick325]

I sit Dez down and tell him he has two options.

1) Franchise tag two years in a row and then byebye
2) 5yrs/70m 30m guaranteed.

Make your decision right now.

That's a no-brainer...I'll take the $28mil guaranteed from the tags plus more than $30mil guaranteed on the open market as a 28yr old multi-time Pro Bowl free agent that happens to be a TD machine.

 

[Picksix]

Roc Nation is not in charge of negotiating his contract. Tom Condon is his agent. Roc Nation is his marketing firm.

Yeah, you're right. I misspoke. I think it's Condon who promised him the moon. He plays hardball, too.

 

[EST_1986]

PAY THE MAN






.....Oakland

 

[DFWJC]

That's a no-brainer...I'll take the $28mil guaranteed from the tags plus more than $30mil guaranteed on the open market as a 28yr old multi-time Pro Bowl free agent that happens to be a TD machine.

He turns 27 in Nov this year.
After the 2nd tag year he'll be a player that will turn 29 during the season. But yeah, someone might overpay. But it's a pretty safe bet that from that point forward he would be out of the top 10 stats wise.

 

[Dorsett33]

He's NEGOTIATING. He's supposed to start high. He'd be crazy to start low. No team gives a player what they are asking for. Hell...it's like that in life if you've ever negotiated.