Dez Bryant arrested (911 Call-Post 847) **closed**

[TellerMorrow34]

And I didn't read the entire thread...so I notice on this final page that this is possibly a situation where he hit a woman?

That changes things for me quite a bit if that's the case. i have absolutely no use for a supposed 'man' who will lay his hands on a woman in such a way.

That doesn't make you a man, or tough, or anything. It's makes you a punk. If that's the case and this wasn't just a minor screaming in each others face thing and he actually physically attacked a woman, pulling her hair and slapping her and what have you, I've got no use for him.

And I am using the word IF here because I don't know. I really hope that isn't the case but if it turns out that it is that's a real shame and something I won't over look in order to be a fan of a player on the Cowboys.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

oh so that makes it OK to slap his mother and pull her hair then....got where you're coming from...

I guess it was his mother's fault that Dez got in an altercation at the stadium last year with his girlfriend and had to be seperated by security or that police were called to a restaurant where Dez was fighting with his girlfriend...I guess it was his mother's fault that Dez got in a fight where police were called in January with lil wayne in Miami or the sagging incident at the Mall or that he was sued three times for non payment of rent and 40 pieces of Jewelry he didn't pay for that his sugar daddy jerry paid for...the same guy that doesn't show up in shape to camp, or show up for meetings or know the playbook or run the correct routes, let alone where to line up presnap..and those are just the things we do know about.....what other cowboy on the currect roster has come close to these issues......keep making excuses for this guy, and Jerry the enabler will do nothing to send a message, and thus, there's the problem!! A little tough love is need with regards to Dez, but Jerry won't do that and certainly Dez knows nothing about being a professional football player...

Crackhead. Crack Dealer. Most likely a prostitute, who has already lied to the police before.

*Sigh

 

[anj113]

Let's hear the truth......

We don't know the situation Dez was in.

And before we claim Dez should be in situations like this......think again....it's family......

We all have our issues with family.....some just refuse to associate with theirs...Dez is probably the only stable force in his.

We all knew Dez had some issues in the past.....but he has never been arrested.....

Should Dez just walked away and let someone else deal with the issue at hand? Maybe so.....but this is his Mom....and I don't agree in hitting a women let alone my own Mom.....but we don't know what happened there.......Dez Mom could of attacked Dez and he was trying to restrain her. We just don't know the whole story.[/quote


please lets stop making excuses for him.. Look I get the media making this a bigger story, but in reality DEz needs to know better. Its the bottom line.. Enough already. Be a damn man... We need him, he needs to be all in, mentally is just as important.. learnm the friggin the playbook, enough excuses please...

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

And I didn't read the entire thread...so I notice on this final page that this is possibly a situation where he hit a woman?

That changes things for me quite a bit if that's the case. i have absolutely no use for a supposed 'man' who will lay his hands on a woman in such a way.

That doesn't make you a man, or tough, or anything. It's makes you a punk. If that's the case and this wasn't just a minor screaming in each others face thing and he actually physically attacked a woman, pulling her hair and slapping her and what have you, I've got no use for him.

And I am using the word IF here because I don't know. I really hope that isn't the case but if it turns out that it is that's a real shame and something I won't over look in order to be a fan of a player on the Cowboys.

Did you read the part where she has already lied to police in the past, been jailed for 18 months for dealing crack, et cetera?

 

[GoCowboysGo]

...did you know all a "victim" has to do is make a statement and the perp will get arrested 99% of the time? In this case, the "victim" has already lied to the police in the past.

And Dez hasn't been in any trouble at all in the past? He's just as unreliable!

 

[RoyTheHammer]

...and let's not concern ourselves with the facts. Let's ignore them; let's embrace his mother here. She deserves it.

Im not referencing the situation at all.. im talking about the simple decency not to refer to a man's mother in such a way.. and we all know no one would ever refer to Dez' mom like that if they were speaking to him. Im sure if you asked him, he loves his mom, and doesn't look at her like a "crackhead, lying prostitute" who's trying to ruin his career.

If your mother, say, previously dabbled in using marijuana and also did some things that growing up, you disliked and thought she was being mean to you about.. i wouldn't reference your mother as "just a stupid, pothead *****".

 

[trickblue]

Sorry, but when it comes to family trauma, it's not that logical. I can't speak for Dez's situation, but from my experience, that phone call is made. I've seen good people goaded into bad situations because a "trusted" family member became jealous and thought to bring someone down a few pegs.

A phone call is trivial.

You got that right... I've seen it first hand with friends...

I'm not defending Dez, but his mom was pretty much non-existent in his life until he made the big time...

Money brings out the worst in people sometimes...

 

[links18]

That notion is lost on most of this board.

And just about all of society.

 

[anj113]

I agree, no man should ever ever touch a woman and should never ever touch your MOTHER.. Are you kidding me? This is disturbing to me.. get your head out of your A** DEz, its time to be a man.

 

[RS12]

Did you read the part where she has already lied to police in the past, been jailed for 18 months for dealing crack, et cetera?

You really think in a high profile case like this the only evidence is the word of his mother? You are dreaming.

 

[ethiostar]

I haven't read the entire thread and I will wait for all the facts to come in before I pass judgement. However, what Bill Parcells said his father used to tell him has always rung true for me, “Parcells, It's never your fault but you're always there".

At some point, he will have to learn to avoid situations that will result in something like this, or learn how to diffuse them, or simply walk away before they escalate.

 

[anj113]

Dez is an idiot to get himself into any kind of trouble with the law, even minor. The dude is playing in the NFL with all kinds of great stuff in front of him. To put himself into any sort of situatin, minor or not, that could get him into trouble with that profession is idiotic. There is simply no way around that.


I don't hate the kid, by any means, but I'm very disappointed in this. Regardless of how minor it might turn out to be I'm very disappointed by it.




Excellent post.

well said my friend

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Did you read the part where she has already lied to police in the past, been jailed for 18 months for dealing crack, et cetera?

So if a woman uses drugs or has lied to authorities, that makes it ok to smack her around in your opinion?

 

[GoCowboysGo]

And I didn't read the entire thread...so I notice on this final page that this is possibly a situation where he hit a woman?

That changes things for me quite a bit if that's the case. i have absolutely no use for a supposed 'man' who will lay his hands on a woman in such a way.

That doesn't make you a man, or tough, or anything. It's makes you a punk. If that's the case and this wasn't just a minor screaming in each others face thing and he actually physically attacked a woman, pulling her hair and slapping her and what have you, I've got no use for him.

And I am using the word IF here because I don't know. I really hope that isn't the case but if it turns out that it is that's a real shame and something I won't over look in order to be a fan of a player on the Cowboys.

Here's the story from the Dallas Morning News:

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...other-slapped-her-across-face-pulled-hair.ece

Sorry, he's an idiot!

 

[The Quest for Six]

Crackhead. Crack Dealer. Most likely a prostitute, who has already lied to the police before.

*Sigh

excusing one person's bad behavior by pointing to others bad behavior, heard that before... got it!!!

*sigh*

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

You really think in a high profile case like this the only evidence is the word of his mother? You are dreaming.

Do you have any other evidence?

 

[Reality]

Every time I hear of a domestic violence arrest, I think back to what happened to a friend of mine when I was younger. He and his wife got into an argument one night which in itself was not unusual for them. However, she grabbed his baseball bat and swung it at him. Another person who was there had already called the police. When she swung the bat, she missed him and slammed headfirst into a table. When the police arrived, my friend and his wife both gave the same story separately as to what happened. That said, my friend was arrested for domestic violence.

He told me he asked them why he was being arrested when he did not do anything to her and they told him that when they are called for a domestic disturbance, somebody is being arrested and that she had bruises and he didn't, so he was the one arrested. He asked what he should have done and the policeman told him, "Next time, let her hit you."

I am not defending nor siding against Dez in this situation. It the evidence comes out that he attacked his mother or his brother, then he deserves whatever punishment the courts dish out. I just know that the whole story is rarely ever published in the media (not necessarily because they intentionally avoid it, but rather not all of the facts are released or known) and just because one person is the one arrested does not mean it was their fault or they were to blame when it comes to domestic violence.

I think that presuming innocence because of the past criminal history of his mother is just as far fetched as presuming guilt simply because he was arrested and his emotion gets the best of him on the field at times.

There is nothing wrong with a good discussion or debate about innocence or guilt, but attacking those who disagree with you personally rather than the facts actually lessens the quality of your argument.

#reality

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Im not referencing the situation at all.. im talking about the simple decency not to refer to a man's mother in such a way.. and we all know no one would ever refer to Dez' mom like that if they were speaking to him. Im sure if you asked him, he loves his mom, and doesn't look at her like a "crackhead, lying prostitute" who's trying to ruin his career.

If your mother, say, previously dabbled in using marijuana and also did some things that growing up, you disliked and thought she was being mean to you about.. i wouldn't reference your mother as "just a stupid, pothead *****".

You obviously don't know me, nor my situation. But you'd be surprised by what I'd have to say about my own family after what they put me through.

Just saying.

 

[links18]

And I didn't read the entire thread...so I notice on this final page that this is possibly a situation where he hit a woman?

That changes things for me quite a bit if that's the case. i have absolutely no use for a supposed 'man' who will lay his hands on a woman in such a way.

That doesn't make you a man, or tough, or anything. It's makes you a punk. If that's the case and this wasn't just a minor screaming in each others face thing and he actually physically attacked a woman, pulling her hair and slapping her and what have you, I've got no use for him.

And I am using the word IF here because I don't know. I really hope that isn't the case but if it turns out that it is that's a real shame and something I won't over look in order to be a fan of a player on the Cowboys.

No, the allegation is he "shoved" his mother. For all we know, he could have been trying to restrain her from hurting him. Too many unknowns to pass judgement.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Every time I hear of a domestic violence arrest, I think back to what happened to a friend of mine when I was younger. He and his wife got into an argument one night which in itself was not unusual for them. However, she grabbed his baseball bat and swung it at him. Another person who was there had already called the police. When she swung the bat, she missed him and slammed headfirst into a table. When the police arrived, my friend and his wife both gave the same story separately as to what happened. That said, my friend was arrested for domestic violence.

He told me he asked them why he was being arrested when he did not do anything to her and they told him that when they are called for a domestic disturbance, somebody is being arrested and that she had bruises and he didn't, so he was the one arrested. He asked what he should have done and the policeman told him, "Next time, let her hit you."

I am not defending nor siding against Dez in this situation. It the evidence comes out that he attacked his mother or his brother, then he deserves whatever punishment the courts dish out. I just know that the whole story is rarely ever published in the media (not necessarily because they intentionally avoid it, but rather not all of the facts are released or known) and just because one person is the one arrested does not mean it was their fault or they were to blame when it comes to domestic violence.

I think that presuming innocence because of the past criminal history of his mother is just as far fetched as presuming guilt simply because he was arrested and his emotion gets the best of him on the field at times.

There is nothing wrong with a good discussion or debate about innocence or guilt, but attacking those who disagree with you personally actually lessens the quality of your argument.

#reality

I have no doubts this story is true, given I've seen the exact same thing occur.