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Wood;4624166 said:um ok...Dez is innocent again
Wasn't he always? Innocent until proven guilty right?
Wood;4624166 said:um ok...Dez is innocent again
Only thing people know with any certainty is that an incident occurred...and somehow she sustained visible bruises.punchnjudy;4624170 said:Anyone who thinks they know what happened right now---whether he hit (or otherwise assaulted) her or not---is living in an alternate reality.
Dez's mother is obviously nuts. There's no credibility there. The witness may very well have more loyalty to his superstar brother who represents the family meal ticket than to his crack w**** mother who undoubtedly traumatized all of them to varying degrees. We have no idea what that situation is like and it's delusional to try and figure it out from a computer. Odds are we'll never know with any real certainty if anything happened.
However, I don't really see how the cops could build a case from this though. It would be nice to hear from a defense attorney or prosecutor on this. If there's no conviction, there shouldn't be a punishment from the league IMO. Only message that would send is that if you have a crazy relative who accuses you, you're assumed guilty.
What bothers me the most here is that Irvin--who knows him from the real world--wasn't more surprised by the allegations. That doesn't mean he's guilty...it just means that Irvin recognizes him as being very troubled. That's not something I just dismiss.
http://i4.***BLOCKED***/albums/y103/extremeskins/ols.gif...Well, I could point out about 83 posts on this thread from Cowboys fans who have said things FAR more negative and defamatory against Dez than I anthing I've posted lol...But, yeah, I just assume that people here know I'm a Skins fan.Cajuncowboy;4624168 said:Well you are posting like a Commander or Eagles fan but you are from Cali so I have no idea.
What the again for?Wood;4624166 said:um ok...Dez is innocent again
Wood;4624156 said:Its not about draft pics or trades...its about setting a tone for what behavior will be tolerated going forward. You don't wait for middle of the season after Dez has few "nice games" because you disrupt the team too much. You make the move now and let team adjust before the season. I would call every team in football and go to highest bidder even if it meant you got a back up snapper in return.
anava;4624172 said:Well then there is Irvin...He isnt saying lets wait for the facts....He is quick to say it not about football, lets get Dez some help. These guys have to be hearing more facts than us.
And that Dez is remorseful for his part in the whole shibang...WoodysGirl;4624174 said:Only thing people know with any certainty is that an incident occurred...and somehow she sustained visible bruises.
Cowboys22;4624158 said:Says the only witness that has spoken as well as her supposed injured wrists and hands. You don't those injuries by being hit on, you get them by doing the hitting and then being restrained.
WoodysGirl;4624169 said:Actually, it's absolutely about draft picks or trades. NFL is a business and while it's easy to suggest the team should "send a message" or "set the tone" if it in some way hurts the team's ability to field a competitive team or hamstrings them in anyway, they're not cutting anyone unless the offense is too egregious.
Short of him committing a Rae Carruth-like crime, this isn't a cuttable offense. It's strike one on the list of cuttable offenses...IF this turns out to be true.
Wood;4624166 said:um ok...Dez is innocent again
Califan007;4624175 said:http://i4.***BLOCKED***/albums/y103/extremeskins/ols.gif...Well, I could point out about 83 posts on this thread from Cowboys fans who have said things FAR more negative and defamatory against Dez than I anthing I've posted lol...But, yeah, I just assume that people here know I'm a Skins fan.
Cajuncowboy;4624165 said:Well the getting worse part would bother me as well. But that may just be ESPN sensationalism though.
Wood;4624166 said:um ok...Dez is innocent again
Califan007;4624179 said:And that Dez is remorseful for his part in the whole shibang...
Notice I mentioned of the personal conduct policy. The mall altercation doesn't fall under that.Wood;4624182 said:Strike one? It's his third run in with the police in a year.
Cajuncowboy;4624178 said:IF I am reading these guys right the help they are talking about is getting him the hell away from the people who are trying to drag him down. He hasn't had drug problems and he hasn't had DUIs or weapons charges so at the end of the day I think it's more about getting him around people who can help him mature a bit. It's obvious his mother hasn't matured at all.
Cowboys22;4624185 said:If anyone in the media had any info damaging to Dez, does anyone really believe they would be sitting on it? They couldn't get on TV fast enough to spill the news. If anything, it's getting better for Dez with each hour that passes.
Wood;4624191 said:Say it again - It's his third run in with the police in a year. That not just smoke anymore.