Dez Contract Speculations

[CF74]

Do you really think that's a realistic prospect?

I think it's very, very low.

Just can not see that happening.

Everything is speculation including Dez accepting the tag on their terms...

 

[big dog cowboy]

with losing murray and now dez deal and hardy suspension and other things I think maybe I would tap the brakes on playoffs and super bowl talk I think its a lot to early for that

Murray's loss is overrated, Dez will play with the tag and Hardy will be around most of the season and postseason. Coming off a 12-4 season with an improved defense there is no reason to tap the brakes.

 

[cowboyblue22]

I hope it goes that way but these nfl seasons are so different im just not so sure dez will play all the games on the tag and will he play full go or not to get hurt to many things can go wrong hope not

 

[CF74]

Murray's loss is overrated, Dez will play with the tag and Hardy will be around most of the season and postseason. Coming off a 12-4 season with an improved defense there is no reason to tap the brakes.

I hope u are right I enjoy winning...

 

[DFWJC]

I'm very interested in winning 10+ games every season as well that's why I hated the other franchise crippling contract we signed previously. The way I see it letting Both Dez and Murray walk will make that other contract all for naught. I guess one and done every year is better than going 8-8....

What franchise crippling contract are you referring to?

 

[CF74]

What franchise crippling contract are you referring to?

The one that has us scrounging for pennies brah

 

[DFWJC]

The one that has us scrounging for pennies brah

Oh, Brandon Carr.
He's not worth his pay,so I agree.

 

[Hoofbite]

The WR market is a mess right now.

All of the top contracts were dropped, traded or reduced.

The new deals for Maclin, TSmith and RCobb are in the 5/50 range.

Rookies are making a huge and instant impact.

People think that it is the players like Dez, JJones, DThomas and AJGreen holding out, but I think it is the teams that don't want to commit top dollars to the WR position like before.

I wonder if teams are willing to hold off for a year just to see what happens with Calvin next year.

It'd be awfully hard for players to seek "Calvin Money" if Detroit decided to save $12M in cap space by cutting him and his $24M cap hit.

31-years-old before October next year, and a $24M cap charge. If he doesn't have a season for the record books, it's hard to imagine Detroit would use 15% of their cap on him.

Once his contract is out of the equation, market price for the best WR drops by about 25%.

 

[erod]

Teams win Super Bowls without elite receivers all the time.

Dallas needs to stand firm here and not cave.

 

[Hoofbite]

Teams win Super Bowls without elite receivers all the time.

Dallas needs to stand firm here and not cave.

Teams win all sorts of different roster compositions.

Eli has 2 rings. Doubt anyone would trade Romo for a similar QB.

 

[CF74]

Teams win Super Bowls without elite receivers all the time.

Dallas needs to stand firm here and not cave.

It will be interesting to see how many games we can win without him but I doubt we get past the first round without him...

 

[Fredd]

I wasn't worried about Dez until recently...IMO, you pay big contracts at certain positions if you have a stud QB, a stud LT, a stud DE and the top (ish) player at their position in the league...we have done that with the first two, and could do that with DE next year with hardy (who knows?)...I would like to see something like a 7 yr/100m deal with the guarantee around $45m - $50m...Dez may be the best at his position in the league, and it is at a skill position...sound like a lot? ubetcha...who is going to shoulder the load if he is not here either physically or worse, mentally....I know we will have to start paying the OL in the next several years (other than Ty, who is already getting that)...

Serious Question: if they went 7 years, how many years of the SB are averaged out in the cap. 5 years of that?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Everything is speculation including Dez accepting the tag on their terms...

Agreed.

But it doesn't mean both deserve equal "weight" as far as what is going to happen. Two scenarios have a much greater chance of coming true than does the one where Dez boycotts part of the season.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I wonder if teams are willing to hold off for a year just to see what happens with Calvin next year.

It'd be awfully hard for players to seek "Calvin Money" if Detroit decided to save $12M in cap space by cutting him and his $24M cap hit.

31-years-old before October next year, and a $24M cap charge. If he doesn't have a season for the record books, it's hard to imagine Detroit would use 15% of their cap on him.

Once his contract is out of the equation, market price for the best WR drops by about 25%.

Exactly right.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

TO is available. Or so he says.

Bye Dez.

 

[CF74]

Agreed.

But it doesn't mean both deserve equal "weight" as far as what is going to happen. Two scenarios have a much greater chance of coming true than does the one where Dez boycotts part of the season.

Were just talking here, speculating..

 

[AbeBeta]

It's probably some of it.

With QBs having as many as 6 different players to throw the ball to on a single play, some OCs consider one single WR to less valuable (and more replaceable) than before.
It's also the one position that is fully stocked at the college level each year these days.

I'd still prefer to have at least one total stud, though it has been proven that if you have a QB that can spread it around, the total passing numbers may not drop hardly at all without one..

I don't think more receiving options has anything to do with this. Dez is the reason that many of our other options are productive. I doubt Williams or Beasley get anywhere near the number of open looks without Dez. A great #1 WR makes the 2s and 3s viable

 

[big dog cowboy]

I wonder if teams are willing to hold off for a year just to see what happens with Calvin next year.

It'd be awfully hard for players to seek "Calvin Money" if Detroit decided to save $12M in cap space by cutting him and his $24M cap hit.

31-years-old before October next year, and a $24M cap charge. If he doesn't have a season for the record books, it's hard to imagine Detroit would use 15% of their cap on him.

Once his contract is out of the equation, market price for the best WR drops by about 25%.

 

[CF74]

I wonder if teams are willing to hold off for a year just to see what happens with Calvin next year.

It'd be awfully hard for players to seek "Calvin Money" if Detroit decided to save $12M in cap space by cutting him and his $24M cap hit.

31-years-old before October next year, and a $24M cap charge. If he doesn't have a season for the record books, it's hard to imagine Detroit would use 15% of their cap on him.

Once his contract is out of the equation, market price for the best WR drops by about 25%.

No doubt football has become a shrewd business empire, one in which the league and the owners have co-conspired to keep the stars from making stupid money so that they can pocket more. Some of it is good and some of it is not..

Young guys in their prime who have worked thru the indentured servitude of a rookie contract and blossomed into a super star athlete have earned the right to get at least one blockbuster deal before they get too old and start planning for retirement and rehabilitation from the beating and abuse their bodies endured..

If I'm Dez the only way to make a real statement is to sit out the first 8 games of the season without a real contract. Let them try to win 8 games without him, preserve your body, and then showcase mad skills and hopefully help your team get over the hump and still win a Super Bowl or get real close.

One of two things will happen at that point. Either he gets a real contract from Dallas after the tag expires or they tag him again under different guidelines that allows another team to bid for him and if they don't match the offer then they get 2 first rounders as compensation or at least 1.

Pay the man or shut up...

 

[xwalker]

I guess we are just going to keep going in circles with this discussion. We don't have him till he signs something.. Over pay is a matter of perspective for some I suppose.. Either we are trying to win it all now or just continue to give the illusion we are...

He should have the max motivation while playing under the Tag.

You can't possibly believe that he is going to hold out. There is zero benefit to holding out because they can't negotiate at that point.

The holdout talk is intended by his agent to cause the fans to have an uproar and put pressure on the Cowboys. It cost him nothing to threaten the holdout at this point.