Dez may hold out multiple games-Tom Condon

[USMarineVet]

Well let's see how many of those same fans that are saying they are giving up on Dez, start cheering and making new threads, the day he actually plays and lights it up.

Hopefully they stand strong, and continue to not support him.

Agreed Frozen.

I'm not saying they (Or I) won't root for him and be excited when he scores after all of this. They (And I) will. I'm hoping this whole thing ends tomorrow. But wouldn't you admit that it's frustrating to hear him talking like this? We're already in limbo on what's gonna happen with Hardy and now we're in limbo with Dez. Hardy's case is out of his control. Dez's isn't. I've read quite a few posts not only on this board but on other sites that are pretty annoyed with Dez right now.

But I agree with you 100% once the air clears, everyone will be rooting form him. That goes without saying.

 

[KJJ]

I don't think Romo is good enough to get through 16 games with Average-Bum *** WR's. Which is what we have behind Dez.

Plus an average group of RB's. With Dez not on the field the Cowboys won't have a receiver Romo can throw the ball up for grabs to who can make contested catches unless the team believes TWill can high point the ball with his chest and snatch them into his body which appears to be made out of Kevlar at times. Romo will be back to having to carry the offense with more than more than 500 passing attempts which would increase his chance of injury.

 

[Jstopper]

This makes zero sense. It was a good year that surpassed everyone's expectations including yours no doubt so lets not tell those with legit points to "zip it".

Didn't surpass my expectations

 

[USMarineVet]

According to some here, it appears Dez should work for less than what he is actually able to get. That would be like me accepting $25.00/hour when I know I can easily get $28.00-30.00/hour.

True. But who gets fired so you can get the extra 3 bucks an hour?

 

[Sandyf]

If true, then his agent is an idiot and does not know the rule of a franchised player. Sure Bryant could sit any number of games, but it also means that he will not be paid for those games. Bryant could also refuse to sign the tag until later in the season before he plays and it means he gets only the prorated amount of the tag (per game cost is the $12+ million divided by 16 games). For Bryant to acrue an year of service in the league he must sign and be on the team with at least 6 games left of the regular season or the Cowboys could tag him again next year as if it is the first tag time not the second. Also if there is not contract by July 15th then the Cowboys and Bryant cannot strike a deal until after the NFL year which ends after the Super Bowl. Condon knows this and is just trying to rile the fans hoping to put pressure on the Cowboys. It never has worked and won't this time, just a media headline.

 

[USMarineVet]

The franchise tag becomes FULLY GUARANTEED whenever the player signs it. The franchised player has until week 10 to sign it and will receive the FULL amount of the tag. The only exceptions exist where a team rescinds the franchise tag making the player an unrestricted free agent or if the player is deemed to not maintain himself in excellent condition physically.

Dez will earn $13mil if he signs the tag whether he plays 16 games, 15 games, 10 games or 6 games. That will impact the team in wins and losses hence why he is threatening to holdout. The only way he can lose 750k game checks is if he signs the tender THEN decides to holdout. No way Condon allows that to occur.

Thanks Slick, for the education.

I did not know that. That certainly puts things in a different perspective. I was under the assumption that he started losing his game checks right away.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah if you have a guy like Brady, or Wilson. With their skills.

I don't think Romo is good enough to get through 16 games with Average-Bum *** WR's. Which is what we have behind Dez.

Romo is good enough.. I just don't think the coaching is.

You can be basic and super talented like we are and get it done but you cant be basic and lacking talent and only get by with a QB.


With that said OUR OL is so good that we could probably still impose our will on teams with Dez.

 

[John813]

Too bad Josh Gordon cant put the pipe down or Jerry could have threatened to trade Dez to Cleveland. That might give Dez's camp something to think about.

If Cleveland would be willing to pay him what he wants, I bet Tom Condon would love a trade to the Browns.

 

[Frozen700]

Agreed Frozen.

I'm not saying they (Or I) won't root for him and be excited when he scores after all of this. They (And I) will. I'm hoping this whole thing ends tomorrow. But wouldn't you admit that it's frustrating to hear him talking like this? We're already in limbo on what's gonna happen with Hardy and now we're in limbo with Dez. Hardy's case is out of his control. Dez's isn't. I've read quite a few posts not only on this board but on other sites that are pretty annoyed with Dez right now.

But I agree with you 100% once the air clears, everyone will be rooting form him. That goes without saying.

Agreed.

No, it's very annoying indeed. I would rather this all go away, and get cleared up asap. It does not look that way, but there is a ton of time left.

 

[Risen Star]

I wonder if we can possibly shift Geoff Swaim to WR?

Could be why we're so nonchalant about this Dez extension.

 

[rynochop]

The franchise tag becomes FULLY GUARANTEED whenever the player signs it. The franchised player has until week 10 to sign it and will receive the FULL amount of the tag. The only exceptions exist where a team rescinds the franchise tag making the player an unrestricted free agent or if the player is deemed to not maintain himself in excellent condition physically.

Dez will earn $13mil if he signs the tag whether he plays 16 games, 15 games, 10 games or 6 games. That will impact the team in wins and losses hence why he is threatening to holdout. The only way he can lose 750k game checks is if he signs the tender THEN decides to holdout. No way Condon allows that to occur.

Im not doubting you, but why have i never heard of a player using that tactic? Since they all hate the tag?

 

[gmoney112]

Im not doubting you, but why have i never heard of a player using that tactic? Since they all hate the tag?

Because it's going to make all your teammates hate you as soon as you walk in the door.

 

[USMarineVet]

If Cleveland would be willing to pay him what he wants, I bet Tom Condon would love a trade to the Browns.

Sure he would. He gets a percentage of the deal. Condon wants Dez to go to the highest bidder. Question is, Does Dez want to be a Cowboy for less?

 

[Frozen700]

Plus an average group of RB's. With Dez not on the field the Cowboys won't have a receiver Romo can throw the ball up for grabs to who can make contested catches unless the team believes TWill can high point the ball with his chest and snatch them into his body which appears to be made out of Kevlar at times. Romo will be back to having to carry the offense with more than more than 500 passing attempts which would increase his chance of injury.

If Dez does indeed miss time, this is true.

Williams is not high pointing anything as you suggested. He won't even make 50% of his contested catches. Some guys on here think he's good enough,they might soon see how true their statements really are.

It will basically be a nightmare. We need Dez. Cole B is our only other consistent WR, but let's be real, he's not carrying us, or commanding double teams.

Like you said, Romo will get caught up trying to do to much, and possibly get hurt.

 

[Doomsday101]

Sure he would. He gets a percentage of the deal. Condon wants Dez to go to the highest bidder. Question is, Does Dez want to be a Cowboy for less?

1st off that is a big assumption that Cleveland would pay 17 mill

 

[Frozen700]

Romo is good enough.. I just don't think the coaching is.

You can be basic and super talented like we are and get it done but you cant be basic and lacking talent and only get by with a QB.


With that said OUR OL is so good that we could probably still impose our will on teams with Dez.

This I agree with. Out O-Line is the only reason I have any type of hope.

 

[Nightman]

Im not doubting you, but why have i never heard of a player using that tactic? Since they all hate the tag?

He doesn't get the full amount if he holds out. It gets pro-rated.

 

[Frozen700]

I wonder if we can possibly shift Geoff Swaim to WR?

Could be why we're so nonchalant about this Dez extension.

 

[CATCH17]

He's right though, you didn't have confidence In the team last year even with Murray and Dez on the team so why should we expect any different from you now?

No reason to have confidence before the season in last years team. If you had it you were pretty much just a homer because no way on earth would anyone predict that a team that is perennially towards the bottom of attempted runs with the football would actually run the ball.

 

[KJJ]

He's right though, you didn't have confidence In the team last year even with Murray and Dez on the team so why should we expect any different from you now?

Show me posts from anyone on this board including you, him or a quote from an expert who did have confidence in the team heading into last season? Everyone is acting like I'm the only one who got it wrong last season when everyone got it wrong. You're asking why everyone should expect anything different from me now? Are you serious just look at this team compared to this time last season....duh! Things are different from me and everyone else heading into this season due to a number of reasons including how well the team performed in 2014. At this time last season the Cowboys were coming off their 3rd straight 8-8 season and had lost several key members from a defense that was the 3rd worst statistically in NFL history in 2013.

The Cowboys had lost 2 key players to free agency and Sean Lee for the season to injury plus Romo was coming off back surgery and was very limited. Heading into the 2015 season instead of losing key players on defense the team has added some key players like Hardy and had what appears to be a very solid draft. Romo isn't having to rehab his back heading into this upcoming season he's had a full offseason of work with no limitations so naturally things look a lot brighter for the team heading into 2015.