Dez tweet today

Jeffkills

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That isn't sufficient security if he goes out there and breaks his neck.

So, he's not eligable for insurance?

Most every reasonable person in the world could take $13M and create and sustain a growing financial empire.

Groaning and pissing in the media over $13M being not enough just makes him look like a me-first punk...

BTW, Dez, the Cowboys come first... It's a privilege to wear the Star, so please quit wiping your *** with it...
 

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Skipping games after the point in time where the team could sign Dez to a new deal is hardly working within the system.

It most certainly is. All he has to do is be available to play 6 games to be eligible for the tag at a higher rate next year. He can use this to force the team to agree not to tag him in 2016. That is, if they want his services for more than 6 games.

How is that working within the system again?
 

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I don't disagree with Dez. I think he should get the money he deserves... but the way he worded this tweet just sounds ridiculous. $13m/yr is enough security for any human being... he needs to chill out lol
 

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If you had a painting worth $40 million and someone offer you $10 million for it, would you say "Well that's more than what most people make in a life time" and sell it for $10 million?

I highly doubt it.
for that analogy to work, you need to also explain there is only 200 million dollars in the world (or whatever the equivalent # would be)
 

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No it isn't. If we are talking about a long term investment (like the 50-year hypothetical I was responding to) 5% is very low. The average rate of return on the stock market over long periods of time is remarkably close to 7%.
Of course he would have expenses - and he would have $390,000 per year to pay those expenses.

Yes, but many of those expenses may be up front expenses. For example, if someone has millions of dollars, it doesn't make much sense to take out a loan to buy a home - even at the current low mortgage rates.

Also, your "average rate of return" is a foolish statistic. There is a huge amount of variability in rate of return. Expecting the average is a gamble you'd lose half the time.
 

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If you had a painting worth $40 million and someone offer you $10 million for it, would you say "Well that's more than what most people make in a life time" and sell it for $10 million?

I highly doubt it.

No, but I wouldn't go cry on twitter about not being able to sell it for the whole 40 million either.

"Boo hoo, poor me, I can't have a financial future with only 10 million. Someone start a ******** for the 40 million the painting is worth."

Nope, sorry, if I was trying to sell it and tweeted something like that I'd fully expect ridicule and derision. Unless I was completely out of touch with reality or too damned dumb to know when to shut up.
 

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Before the corny comments ensue, I'd like to remind people this is a BUSINESS. Just because you'd take $13 million in a heartbeat doesn't mean Dez should. He has every right to maximize his value and financial security for his family.

I have no problem with a player wanting a big payday
This will be his only big payday if he signs a deal
Totally understand wanting the security of a long term deal
What dez has to understand is WR contracts like Johnson and Fitz got aren't coming around these days and may be a long time before they do
More and more young wr's are coming in and contributing right away in the last few years and that hurts the value of vets
Not to mention teams winning Super Bowls with a group of wr's not an elite wr
 

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He shouldn't be paid more than a QB regardless. You realize if we paid him 17, in three years we would be doomed for the next 10 don't you???? This isn't Madden...

I never said he should be paid more than Tony. I understand the QB is the main guy but Dez shouldn't be low balled either. I don't think you guys understand how much our offense will change if he's not on the field. He is one of the main guys on this team and they need to take care of him period
 

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Again I don't understand why people don't listen to the Joneses. Stephen already addressed why a new deal hadn't been agreed to. Dallas doesn't want to be paying a older wr big money. They don't want to have the Fitzgerald problems. I see Dallas franchising him for 2 yrs. Dallas is young they have a couple of older players who could be out in a couple yrs. Witten and Romo. They seem to be on a new system where they aren't going to keep players longer then they should. It's smart business by the team.
 

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5 years 65 million 35 guaranteed. Or franchise 2 years and let walk

that sounds like a really good deal for dez without crippling the cap. I don't think that's what the cowboys have on the table for him though.
 

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It most certainly is. All he has to do is be available to play 6 games to be eligible for the tag at a higher rate next year. He can use this to force the team to agree not to tag him in 2016. That is, if they want his services for more than 6 games.

How is that working within the system again?

He would lose 7.5m with that plan

And his franchise tag wouldn't go up next year because his cap hit would be 5.3m and the formula for the second tagged year is 120%of his cap hit or the WR tag, whichever is higher. The WR tag may actually go down from 12.8m next year.
 

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Yes, but many of those expenses may be up front expenses. For example, if someone has millions of dollars, it doesn't make much sense to take out a loan to buy a home - even at the current low mortgage rates.
Buying a house is not an expense. It is a transfer of assets from one form (cash) to another form (property). Your net worth has remained the same.
Also, your "average rate of return" is a foolish statistic. There is a huge amount of variability in rate of return. Expecting the average is a gamble you'd lose half the time.
Sorry, but you're mistaken. When you are talking about long term investing, predicting average rates of return is incredibly accurate. History is 100% on my side here.

I can't promise you I can do 7% in the next year, but I can safely promise you I can do an annual rate of 7% over the next 20 years.
 

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too late, your comment is corny.

I don't enjoy today's game anymore then the one from 10 years ago.

these athletes are delusional. they can be replaced by people I would enjoy watching for a fraction of the price. Running fast is worthless without people that marketed it to be something worth big money.

If you don't enjoy it, why do you watch?
 

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If you had a painting worth $40 million and someone offer you $10 million for it, would you say "Well that's more than what most people make in a life time" and sell it for $10 million?

I highly doubt it.
Here's a better analogy. You're the curator of a museum and you have a budget of $150 million. There is a painting you want and the owner is demanding $20 million. However, due to a previous contractual agreement already in place, he is obligated to sell it to you for $13 million if you so choose.

He says "pay me what the painting is worth!" Do you give him $20 million or do you give him $13 million?
 
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