DFW Sportsbeat - Looks like Marty B and MBIII will be traded if...

[dbair1967]

Bennett is not going to be a major factor on this team as long as Witten is Witten. Simple fact. He is not an all world blocker as some here have stated; he is very good but Phillips is not far behind. The difference between the two is not great- therefore if the oppurtunity presents itself to get a 2nd or even a high 3rd, or for him to be used to move up to get a better player that will actually get on the field more, then do it.

I guess we'd have to disagree then, because I dont see Phillips as anywhere near the blocker Bennett is, and he definitely isnt the athelete/receiving threat Bennett is. Bennett is a superb blocker.

We've been incredibly lucky with Witten. He's never had a major injury and the few minor things he's had he's alwasy been able to play through. With this offense so depedent on the TE though, you gotta have somebody capable of replacing a decent amount of that production and at least be a threat if Witten did go down. The offense would be crippled if you didnt. Phillips cannot replace Witten or come even close, nor would any teams be that concerned with him. Bennett could put up some good numbers though and defenses would still have to respect his ability.

If Bennett's traded, you can be sure we're spending a relatively high pick on another TE, a guy who can be a good receiving threat. Phillips is a nice 3rd TE, and is probably acceptable as a 2nd TE. But if he has to play a bigger role, he isnt that guy.

 

[Gaede]

I don't see how blocking makes Bennett indispensible. If we just want a guy to cover Free's ***, then let's go get some UDFA TE who is only good at blocking. I mean, ****, Dan Campbell was good at blocking but that didn't mean we had to keep him on the roster no matter what

Bennett will never never become what some people here think he will be--in Dallas. It's pointless to hold on to him when a) getting a pick for him could get us a player who can actually contribute (ie safety, guard, tackle) b) his main role is as a blocking TE (a job that could be done by alot of guys) c) it is next to impossible to break out and change this role because he is, and always will be, the #2 TE and fourth/fifth receiving option

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Id like to keep both, but I could see why we trade barber.

hopefully its for more than a 5th though... thats just a rip.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I would trade Barber before I would trade Bennett. Bennett should get one more season to mature. The kid plays behind Witten, that along affects his production as a receiver which is all some of you seem to think about.

The fact that Bennett can block DEs one on one, he has enough power to drive LBers and DEs backwards is enough for me to give the man three years. The fact that he is incredibly fast for a man his size, and go up for the ball, and has good hands just adds to it. To trade him now would be absolutely foolish unless you got the house for him.

 

[EPL0c0]

I just don't think it's time to write off Bennett just yet. I still feel that, on top of still developing, the guy just hasn't been given all the opportunities possible.

Granted, it's not entirely his fault. He plays behind Jason Witten. Bennett would have to either just become a super monster TE or Witten go down w/ an injury in order for Bennett to see significant playing time (as a pass catcher)

 

[CATCH17]

Stole this from tooHostile in another thread that he posted before Tinker said anything.

Once day 2 and the 2nd and 3rd rounds roll around there are going to be trade rumblings in Dallas. Perhaps someone looking for a TE like Bennett. Perhaps a deal for Barber or Spears could happen. It is all speculation. I think Dallas would move Bennett without much hesitation. Most likely options would be New England and Cincinnati. 2nd or 3rd rounds are where I think Dallas could add a Draft pick to the crop.

So I guess we're actually serious about making this bonehead move.

A lot of things need to be fixed in our pass protection and losing Flo, Barber, and Bennett just makes me think Kitna better be ready to play next year.

 

[JBS]

I am not down w that scenario at all

 

[Alexander]

Bennett will never never become what some people here think he will be--in Dallas. It's pointless to hold on to him when a) getting a pick for him could get us a player who can actually contribute (ie safety, guard, tackle) b) his main role is as a blocking TE (a job that could be done by alot of guys) c) it is next to impossible to break out and change this role because he is, and always will be, the #2 TE and fourth/fifth receiving option

Basically.

Look, we tried the two tight end thing really really hard. In other words, we spent two second round draft choices hoping that the pair of TEs would terrorize the league. Thanks to two players who really aren't that mentally squared away in Fasano and Bennett, the experiment failed. I would as soon recoup at least one of those premium choices we wasted.

Phillips is more than capable of stepping in as a second tight end. Is he the blocker that Bennett is? No. Is he as talented? No. But he carries out his assignments and pays attention to detail, which is exactly what you want from that role. Bennett may be a Pro Bowler in waiting, but if you can recoup what it cost to draft him, it should be an easy decision.

 

[Gaede]

A lot of things need to be fixed in our pass protection and losing Flo, Barber, and Bennett just makes me think Kitna better be ready to play next year.

Or maybe we could use the pick in a Bennett trade to draft someone who blocks better? You know, like a guard or a tackle or a center...

 

[CATCH17]

Basically.

Look, we tried the two tight end thing really really hard. In other words, we spent two second round draft choices hoping that the pair of TEs would terrorize the league. Thanks to two players who really aren't that mentally squared away in Fasano and Bennett, the experiment failed. I would as soon recoup at least one of those premium choices we wasted.

Phillips is more than capable of stepping in as a second tight end. Is he the blocker that Bennett is? No. Is he as talented? No. But he carries out his assignments and pays attention to detail, which is exactly what you want from that role. Bennett may be a Pro Bowler in waiting, but if you can recoup what it cost to draft him, it should be an easy decision.

Worst logic of all time.

 

[CATCH17]

Or maybe we could use the pick in a Bennett trade to draft someone who blocks better? You know, like a guard or a tackle or a center...

Or another early pick on a Tight End.

 

[Section446]

Stole this from tooHostile in another thread that he posted before Tinker said anything.






So I guess we're actually serious about making this bonehead move.

A lot of things need to be fixed in our pass protection and losing Flo, Barber, and Bennett just makes me think Kitna better be ready to play next year.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much of a drop off we'll ultimately have losing Adams. Don't get me wrong, there was a time when he was amongst the elite LT's in the league; but the guy has clearly fallen down hill and it was time for a change. I have little doubt that Free can at least hold down the position.

As far as Barber is concerned, do we really need to keep a guy who's making almost $8 million total this year (bonuses/salary) and doesn't offer much more than run blocking? He's basically a waste in the running game and is holding back guys like Choice who are the future of the position for us.

As far as Bennett is concerned, if you're worried about losing him as a blocker that says a lot about how worthless the guy is in the passing game. Blocking TE's are a dime-a-dozen and his blocking is easily replaced. Hell, there are TE's on the FA market that could be brought in if all you're looking for is a blocker.

 

[CATCH17]

Honestly, I'm not sure how much of a drop off we'll ultimately have losing Adams. Don't get me wrong, there was a time when he was amongst the elite LT's in the league; but the guy has clearly fallen down hill and it was time for a change. I have little doubt that Free can at least hold down the position.

As far as Barber is concerned, do we really need to keep a guy who's making almost $8 million total this year (bonuses/salary) and doesn't offer much more than run blocking? He's basically a waste in the running game and is holding back guys like Choice who are the future of the position for us.

As far as Bennett is concerned, if you're worried about losing him as a blocker that says a lot about how worthless the guy is in the passing game. Blocking TE's are a dime-a-dozen and his blocking is easily replaced. Hell, there are TE's on the FA market that could be brought in if all you're looking for is a blocker.

Lack of foresight?

Bennett is an all around Tight End. A very dynamic player. Maybe the reason he isn't catching 70 passes a year is because he has the best TE in the league in front of him.

This guy is a very rare talent. He can play like a Left Tackle and is more than athletic enough to do some big things in the passing game.

 

[CowboyChris]

I would do this deal in a heartbeat if either Berry or Spillar is there at 12. :starspin

 

[Sonny Koufax]

I would do this deal in a heartbeat if either Berry or Spillar is there at 12. :starspin

Spiller

 

[Alexander]

Worst logic of all time.

Not if you know feel strongly that "Pro Bowler" won't achieve that in Dallas.

Personally, I don't think Bennett mentally has what it takes to be what some people believe he can be. He would not be the first elite talent to be derailed by a ten cent brain.

 

[Alexander]

I would do this deal in a heartbeat if either Berry or Spillar is there at 12. :starspin

Why on earth would you take a Felix Jones clone?

 

[Section446]

Lack of foresight?

Bennett is an all around Tight End. A very dynamic player. Maybe the reason he isn't catching 70 passes a year is because he has the best TE in the league in front of him.

This guy is a very rare talent. He can play like a Left Tackle and is more than athletic enough to do some big things in the passing game.

Speaking of lack of foresight, you're the one wanting to keep a $8 million RB who offers nothing but blocking ability. By the way, you do realize that Witten isn't going anywhere until either a) his contract is up (2013) or b) he goes down with a career ending injury. Bennett's contract is up before Witten's contract is up, I guess we should pay Bennett like a starter to sit on the bench because of all of his "potential" when his contract is up right? By the way, due to the Miles Austin factor Bennett is going to be used a lot less due to the fact that we've moved away from the regular 2-TE set. If someone offers us a second round pick we'd be ******** to turn it down.

Some of you kids are too obsessed with what "might be" rather than what is. Damn this Madden generation.

 

[CowboyChris]

Why on earth would you take a Felix Jones clone?

losing Barber leaves a hole at RB, plus i would argue that Spillar is probably the best playmaker in this draft bar none. especially with 4.2 speed, can you imagine the added dimension to our special teams alone would be?

 

[Alexander]

By the way, you do realize that Witten isn't going anywhere until either a) his contract is up (2013) or b) he goes down with a career ending injury. Bennett's contract is up before Witten's contract is up, I guess we should pay Bennett like a starter to sit on the bench because of all of his "potential" when his contract is up right?

Bennett would just leave in free agency in that scenario and we would have nothing to show for it.

And we probably spent his entire rookie contract waiting for the entire package to come together and terrorize the NFL.