News: Did this deal set the bar for Schultz?

[kskboys]

I think the Schultz'kowski long term contract supporters are looking at pure stats through rose colored glasses.

He had 2 Tds outside our division and went on a 9 game slump with only 1 TD

That's not a winning formula
I wouldn't have tagged a Jag te to begin with

And now y'all are talking about making a Jarwin'ish te a top tier paid te.

It's absurd. Imo.

I'd rather have Jesse James for 2 million and Not be locked in at the inflated price. Ha ha ha

Those rinky dink checkdown passes don't win nothing for us anyways

It just inflates the QBR.

It's not dynamic enough scoring production when it's all coming from blowout wins against a bunch of scrub division rival games.

Old man Witten could have scored 6 tds last year against the WFT, giants, and eagles rest your starters.

Wake up

Brady has won 7 super bowls w/ those rinky dink checkdown passes. Might want to rethink.

 

[J12B]

https://heavy.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/rumors-news-dalton-schultz-contract-salary/

This article is saying $64 million with $30 million guaranteed.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Franchise money going to the position of biggest need asap, and Schultz.
Thats what you have to do when left short at the position but Schultz is decent, and you have to have at least one.
He got payed the franchise tag for a very valid reason, but that reason had desperation tied to it.

(Schultz - Next TE Warm Body) <<< TE franchise tag

You need a TE. Didn't have to be Schults. Put any competent warm body at TE in this offense, particularly last year, and he delivers.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Brady has won 7 super bowls w/ those rinky dink checkdown passes. Might want to rethink.

Checkdown passes are good. Paying franchise tag money to a checkdown player is not good.

And was Brady really throwing so many checkdown passes? My impression was that relative to us at least, the Pats simply had a lot more short passes *early* in the progression. They used more of the field in time and space, while our long to short progressions are more predictable in where/when a ball goes.

 

[Typhus]

(Schultz - Next TE Warm Body) <<< TE franchise tag

You need a TE. Didn't have to be Schults. Put any competent warm body at TE in this offense, particularly last year, and he delivers.

So who do you suggest, OJ Howard?

 

[Typhus]

So who do you suggest, OJ Howard?

Im just asking here, because I dont know if we could bring Gronk out of retirement, there just arent a lot of options available.

 

[buybuydandavis]

So who do you suggest, OJ Howard?

At this point they've made their bed with Schultz.

What they *could* have done was what they've done with starter holes for a couple of decades: pick up some cheap veteran starter insurance, draft, and work value as hard as you can.

In 2018 we were going with Geoff Swaim. Then he went out and it was Schultz, Jarwin, and Rico. We've spent way too much on offense. And now Dak is the 40 Million Dollar Man. Time to start making dues with less at some positions on offense.

 

[garyv]

https://www.nfl.com/news/browns-te-david-njoku-agree-to-four-year-56-million-contract-extension

David Njoku 4 years for $56.75 million ($28 million guaranteed)

Last year Njoku caught 36 passes for 475 yards and 4 touchdowns.

Meanwhile Schultz caught 78 passes for 808 yards and 8 touchdowns.

Schultz could command 60 million and 32 million guaranteed for 4 years.

I'm betting no extension will happen and this will be Schultz's final year in Dallas.

My honest opinion is two rookie tightens look very promising especially one who could potentially replace Schultz. If either of these rookie tightens come close to Schultz production than Schultz want be getting a long term deal. Drafting and signing these guys keeps Dallas from being forced to pay Schultz. Don't be shocked if they let him walk after this season.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

(Schultz - Next TE Warm Body) <<< TE franchise tag

You need a TE. Didn't have to be Schults. Put any competent warm body at TE in this offense, particularly last year, and he delivers.

Jarwin and McKeon played, neither could do anything...you couldn't be more wrong. Schultz is not an all pro or elite, but he is under rated by the fans....just because he got tagged and made 11M this season. no other reason. if he would get a 9M deal, then all the same people would be celebrating

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

My honest opinion is two rookie tightens look very promising especially one who could potentially replace Schultz. If either of these rookie tightens come close to Schultz production than Schultz want be getting a long term deal. Drafting and signing these guys keeps Dallas from being forced to pay Schultz. Don't be shocked if they let him walk after this season.

I think that's the goal. they hope, so they can save money. they hedged their bets knowing if they can find somebody close, then they can save on the cap for the next two years for Dak's contract so to give themselves the option to extend or not to extend. this is the tell tale year in Jones' mind for Dak, if he doesn't get to playoffs and at least win one, then its the end of Dak in dallas at the end of his 4 years. the challenge becomes if neither of the TEs is able to step up and at that point what to do with Schultz

 

[kskboys]

Jarwin and McKeon played, neither could do anything...you couldn't be more wrong. Schultz is not an all pro or elite, but he is under rated by the fans....just because he got tagged and made 11M this season. no other reason. if he would get a 9M deal, then all the same people would be celebrating

The celebrating thingie aside, I am a bit flummoxed at how many don't seem to understand the skillset it takes to get open in the NFL and how difficult it is. I mean, knowledgeable posters don't even seem to get it.

 

[kskboys]

I think that's the goal. they hope, so they can save money. they hedged their bets knowing if they can find somebody close, then they can save on the cap for the next two years for Dak's contract so to give themselves the option to extend or not to extend. this is the tell tale year in Jones' mind for Dak, if he doesn't get to playoffs and at least win one, then its the end of Dak in dallas at the end of his 4 years. the challenge becomes if neither of the TEs is able to step up and at that point what to do with Schultz

Especially since Fergie is a Schultz clone.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Especially since Fergie is a Schultz clone.

hopefully

 

[kskboys]

hopefully

No, I mean his skillset and play style and such. He's the same player. Doesn't mean he'll succeed, there's never a guarantee, but he is exactly the same player.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Checkdown passes are good. Paying franchise tag money to a checkdown player is not good.

And was Brady really throwing so many checkdown passes? My impression was that relative to us at least, the Pats simply had a lot more short passes *early* in the progression. They used more of the field in time and space, while our long to short progressions are more predictable in where/when a ball goes.

If we're trading Cooper Money for the highest paid checkdown te in history I'm out. Js

I'd rather spend my pie on 2 top wrs. If he's not drawing Double teams he's not worth 15 million imo

 

[Creeper]

Schultz is not worth more than 10 million per year. I don't care what another team pays their TE. That is the worst way to assess a player's value. Cleveland overpaid Njoku, so now the rest of the league has to overpay all their TEs too? Seems like one guy jumps off a cliff and everyone else just blindly follows.

Njoku had 53 targets last season in 16 games. Clearly he is not a big part of the Browns offense. Schultz has 104 targets last year. That is more than any season Njoku has played, although Njoku has missed 16 games in the last 3 seasons.

I have not doubt the Cowboys can find another TE to do what Schultz does.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Schultz is not worth more than 10 million per year. I don't care what another team pays their TE. That is the worst way to assess a player's value. Cleveland overpaid Njoku, so now the rest of the league has to overpay all their TEs too? Seems like one guy jumps off a cliff and everyone else just blindly follows.

Njoku had 53 targets last season in 16 games. Clearly he is not a big part of the Browns offense. Schultz has 104 targets last year. That is more than any season Njoku has played, although Njoku has missed 16 games in the last 3 seasons.

I have not doubt the Cowboys can find another TE to do what Schultz does.

There's a lot of reasons teams teams overtarget an avg te.

Not any good reasons but there are reasons.

If you correct the reasons why he's catching 78 balls it will poof into 40 balls and ya might get a lil further towards winning a playoff game. Lol

Njoku looks more like he's a good QB away from being a great te than Schultz. But the stats don't lie and he was overpaid.

We couldn't beat alot of great teams with that style of te offense but we crushed all of the Sorry teams with it.

I'd rather spend the resources to have a 2 top wr combo and use a Te by comittee

 

[CowboysExchange]

Schultz is not worth more than 10 million per year. I don't care what another team pays their TE. That is the worst way to assess a player's value. Cleveland overpaid Njoku, so now the rest of the league has to overpay all their TEs too? Seems like one guy jumps off a cliff and everyone else just blindly follows.

Njoku had 53 targets last season in 16 games. Clearly he is not a big part of the Browns offense. Schultz has 104 targets last year. That is more than any season Njoku has played, although Njoku has missed 16 games in the last 3 seasons.

I have not doubt the Cowboys can find another TE to do what Schultz does.

I think we got off the Cooper train too quick imo and the value wasn't there at wr yet. Then the market shot up and the value wasn't there in the 1st round of the draft.

Then the Browns overpay Njoku like Gurley and give us the Double Whammy. Lol.

We'll get sucked in again. We'll be stuck in mediocre land just like we were with old man Witten.

I'd play this tag out and spend my pie on another skilled player who can score 8 tds right now.

I'd have Breece Hall, Jelani Woods, and Tolbert out there competing if I woulda been drafting this year J's

 

[AKATheRake]

We seem to draft good TE's in the middle rounds. Why change the wheel?

 

[CowboysExchange]

We seem to draft good TE's in the middle rounds. Why change the wheel?

Because we're normally bouncing around with 6th rounders and below and we've only had 2 decent tes at once in 15 years.

What are we waiting on. We're not gonna get the Gronk Hernandez duo looking under rocks lmao

If you're gonna play a Duo you have to have a Duo.

We got 2 many coulda woulda shouldas or hype players at te every year.

Who wants to watch Lamb pair up with Schultz versus pairing up w another top wr. Or watch Schultz pairing up w a rookie te in that 12 personnel. Lol.

We're bumming

This team is screaming for 2 playmakers on offense.