DMN Blog: Deion filets Roy (WR) Williams

[jimmy40]

Remember Deion's athletic gifts and what happened when injuries robbed him of those?

I remember when Meion got beat he was all the sudden injured.

 

[khiladi]

I think we will run more 2 TE sets this year, since we dont have a particular person we dont have to force it to this year to make him happy. That was one more good thing about his release. Witten will basically play WR this year, and Bennet will basically be the TE. And dont forget Felix, and Austin (although im still not a believer in him yet)

What were you watching? We ran two TE sets all the time and it was the only formation Garrett ever resorted to when Romo kept taking a pounding, because the sorry coach had his WRs running vertical all day. Instead of shortening passing routes and taking advantages of mis-matches he remained content with his poor game-planning. If Garrett continues to go vertical, your going to see it once again and Bennett won't be used effectively because Garrett will have him trying to block all day to give Romo time to throw the ball downfield.

 

[tyke1doe]

Wait... Deion said this?

That was my thought too.

 

[jimmy40]

why do I keep hearing that Roy is not fast? he may not be the fastest wr in the league but that doesn't mean he isn't fast. how come he's been a #1 wr ever since highschool yet now he's not a #1 wr anymore?

Because he's not TO and the TO jock sniffers just can't stand it.

 

[khiladi]

The only optimistic thing about Roy Williams being the number one receiver is that it will force Jason Garrett to game-plan differently, unless of course he is as dumb as I am beginning to think he is. If Garrett thinks that he can fit Roy Williams into the role that TO played and everything will be fine-and-dandy, look out pathetic offense. If he does change, the issue I see is that there is no way Roy Williams is anywhere near a deep threat as Owens so teams won't have to dedicate safety-help over the top to shadow Owens and they can be a more a balanced defense against the Cowboys. The loss of Owens doesn't just mean that the Cowboys can spread the ball more, it also means defenses aren't in as much of a disadvantage. Garrett is going to have to be more systematic in how he coaches this offense, which I have yet to see from him. As soon as the game is close, Garrett goes panic mode.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Yeah, that tard as you call it, is the best CB to lace it up, won 2 SBs, and could shut down any receiver on this planet.

IMO, he's dead on, and I've been preaching it all summer long, and I'll be right here to remind all of you this up coming season. Jason Witten will have a great year, because he will be thrown to thousands of times this year, and Roy "big stiff" williams will be absent a ton of games except those gimmy games where even a high school team could beat them.

Romo doesn't have the mental make up to check down, and when he does, his arm will not get it done for him. Again, no more easy scores from here out, we will be sub-500 even with that easy, last place schedule we have.

Great Post and observations. Truth hurts. Especially to the homers

 

[NeonNinja]

This entire thread including Deion is agenda driven. Go do play by play for TO and the Bills Judas.

 

[DallasDomination]

I dont know if Williams is a number one guy. Miles Austin has more #1 tools then Williams. I like Williams first step or quickness after the catch but i dont see the top end speed. He's a tricky one for me to grade. Season can't come here any faster.

 

[Idgit]

I think it's great. He's totally running with this gimmick, changed his screen name and all.:laugh1:

No one is taking him seriously, I hope.

Seriously? Judas is Clove-with-a-beard? It's just an act? Because if it is, then I feel really stupid for falling for it hook, line, sinker.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Judging from your tone, You will probably be banned by training camp from the site, at least I would put money on.

and secondly if your going to come here to root against Dallas, why not just go root for buffalo?

Why is it that if someone doesn't share your optimism of the personnel on the roster that you quickly get defensive and advise them to 'root for another team?

Just because you dont agree that someone is as good as other fans might think, does that make you less of a fan?

I like to root with realism, not with blind homerism.

 

[Concord]

Loved Deion.

Is he right about Williams?

Who knows...but until Williams proves him wrong as a Cowboy...all I remember is last year.

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[khiladi]

The funny thing is, Troy Aikman was bashing Roy Williams last year by the end of the season. He seemed to be a target for the offensive woes of the Cowboys by Aikman when the former QB was commentating for the Cowboys, especially when Garrett was starting to get bashed. So is Deion agenda driven, but Aikman isn't?

 

[Idgit]

The funny thing is, Troy Aikman was bashing Roy Williams last year by the end of the season. He seemed to be a target for the offensive woes of the Cowboys by Aikman when the former QB was commentating for the Cowboys, especially when Garrett was starting to get bashed. So is Deion agenda driven, but Aikman isn't?

It's not that Deion might not be right. It's just that it doesn't matter what he thinks because Deion is a big wet flapping douchebag.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I really don't have much issue with what he said outside of practice habits and what practice is for. Deion should not ever speak on that topic in any capacity in which he's attempting to proclaim he knows anything about practicing and working hard.

Practice and hard work are two things Deion Sanders knows absolutely nothing about.

 

[SMCowboy]

What were you watching? We ran two TE sets all the time and it was the only formation Garrett ever resorted to when Romo kept taking a pounding, because the sorry coach had his WRs running vertical all day. Instead of shortening passing routes and taking advantages of mis-matches he remained content with his poor game-planning. If Garrett continues to go vertical, your going to see it once again and Bennett won't be used effectively because Garrett will have him trying to block all day to give Romo time to throw the ball downfield.

Were you watching the games? I have typed this out once, but I will do it again for those two hard headed to listen. If you actually paid attention to why things happened, and not just assume that a guy (Jason Garrett) can go from a genius to an idiot overnight, you can see exactly what happened.

Even in 2007, TO put up almost all of his stats in the first 12 games of the season. Just take a look at the stats before and after the Detroit/Philly game. Starting with the Green Bay game and then really paying dividends in the Detroit game, and largely in the Philly game teams realized that TO could not longer beat press man coverage consistently. Very few teams ever tried to press TO man to man before, because he used to always destroy it. Even though TO got his catches against Al Harris in Green Bay, Al Harris showed that you COULD apply press coverage on TO and he couldn't consistently beat it.

Would TO still get his big plays from time to time, absolutely. One thing TO has not lost is his speed, but the quickness that he used to have is gone. Thus the plays were TO used to be able to catch the 10 yard slant and take it to the house are gone, because he is never able to get open enough to catch the ball in any sort of space over the middle anymore, even when he does get catches now, it is with guys draped over him.

The reason why Jason Garrett kept throwing the ball deep, even when teams were blitzing, is because that is all he had to go with. To try and got hot to TO was not possible, because he couldn't get open from the press man coverage on a hot route. The one way that TO still could get open was on the deep routes, why Garrett kept going with the deep balls all the time. The only other real weapon that we had on offense (Jason Witten) is also at his best in the deep seams, not running the shorter routes. Not that Witten is bad at the quicker routes, he is good at those also, but the routes that make Witten probably the best TE in football is his ability to stretch the field and the seams from the TE position.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Is Deion the first to expose RW's "weaknesses"? It's funny how some people's personal opinion of Prime blinds them from understanding that he could be correct...and judging what 11 showed us last season, he is on point! Williams has plenty to prove this season and until he does the Aikmans & Sanders of the world will continue to question him. If there is anyone who's opinion I respect as far as WRs & DBs are concerned, it's Deion, and I seriously doubt any of you disputing him are a better judge of talent! I will admit that he's reaching as far as Witten is concerned...he can ball no matter who's lined up beside him, but his numbers may drop b/c of added attention he'll probably see this upcoming season.

 

[theebs]

Why is it that if someone doesn't share your optimism of the personnel on the roster that you quickly get defensive and advise them to 'root for another team?

Just because you dont agree that someone is as good as other fans might think, does that make you less of a fan?

I like to root with realism, not with blind homerism.

so, let me get this straight your still calling me a homer?

 

[SMCowboy]

Is Deion the first to expose RW's "weaknesses"? It's funny how some people's personal opinion of Prime blinds them from understanding that he could be correct...and judging what 11 showed us last season, he is on point! Williams has plenty to prove this season and until he does the Aikmans & Sanders of the world will continue to question him. If there is anyone who's opinion I respect as far as WRs & DBs are concerned, it's Deion, and I seriously doubt any of you disputing him are a better judge of talent! I will admit that he's reaching as far as Witten is concerned...he can ball no matter who's lined up beside him, but his numbers may drop b/c of added attention he'll probably see this upcoming season.

I have no problem with Deion saying that Roy Williams runs poor routes, or doesn't practice hard. Will that change this year, I think there is certainly a chance. All indications are that the practice part at least is happening this year. Lets not forget, Leonard Davis was a completely different player after coming to Dallas as well....

But, even if it doesn't, with a "healthy" Roy Williams, you know what you are going to get. He has PROVEN in Detroit that at worst he is a 60+ - 850+ - 6 TD guy. And that is when he is the ONLY real weapon on offense. If Roy Williams only does what he did in Detroit, that is all that we need. Lets not forget, that while TO's stats are solid - 69-1,052-10, he was the 10th most targeted WR in the league last year, so that has a TON to do with his stats as well. Roy can and has put up 60-850-6 seasons with a WHOLE lot less pass targets, so that is more balls to go to Witten, Bennett, Felix Jones, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton, ect.

 

[Rampage]

Why is it that if someone doesn't share your optimism of the personnel on the roster that you quickly get defensive and advise them to 'root for another team?

Just because you dont agree that someone is as good as other fans might think, does that make you less of a fan?

I like to root with realism, not with blind homerism.

the poster that Theebs is responding to has admitted that he's just a T.O. fan not a cowboys fan. go check his posts than come back here and tell me you think he shouldn't be on a Buffalo Bills message board.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I have no problem with Deion saying that Roy Williams runs poor routes, or doesn't practice hard. Will that change this year, I think there is certainly a chance. All indications are that the practice part at least is happening this year. Lets not forget, Leonard Davis was a completely different player after coming to Dallas as well....

But, even if it doesn't, with a "healthy" Roy Williams, you know what you are going to get. He has PROVEN in Detroit that at worst he is a 60+ - 850+ - 6 TD guy. And that is when he is the ONLY real weapon on offense. If Roy Williams only does what he did in Detroit, that is all that we need. Lets not forget, that while TO's stats are solid - 69-1,052-10, he was the 10th most targeted WR in the league last year, so that has a TON to do with his stats as well. Roy can and has put up 60-850-6 seasons with a WHOLE lot less pass targets, so that is more balls to go to Witten, Bennett, Felix Jones, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton, ect.

Don't discount the fact that Roy had his best season under pass-happy Mike Martz, so his numbers may have been skewed somewhat. Personally, I think he has untapped potential and if his heart finally can match his physical talent, he will excel in Dallas...but the jury's still out on him.