DMN Blog: Roy Williams on Sirius XM Radio

[Maikeru-sama]

They really are in a catch 22. I like Roy but if I had to game plan against the boys I would take my chances with Roy and single coverage instead of letting Miles and Jason get off. However, there is our running game, lol.

Yeah, I mentioned earlier that I feel Sean McDermott, the Defensive Coordinator for the Eagles is a little confused as to how to attack the Cowboys Offense.

Think about this.

According to Troy Aikman, the Eagles blitzed about 59% of the time and almost won that game against us.

But when we play the second time, McDermott is not as aggressive.

I wonder if McDermott saw something on film that scared him and he felt he needed to be less aggressive during the next meeting?

Also, this is why I laugh at people who say we should bench Roy Williams.

When teams start doubling and/or putting their best corner on Miles Austin, you really have to like the match up between Roy Williams and a lesser corner.

I believe he is going to make some big catches but I just don't know if they will be offset by drops.

 

[joseephuss]

Please. That play was all Romo -- Brown would have bitten regardless of who was there, be it Roy, Crayton, or even John Phillips, because that's what Eagles DBs do, they anticipate and jump routes, looking for the big pick six.

Unfortunately for them, Romo has been there and done that and he gives the most amazing shoulder and pump fakes in the game today.

Roy dropped more balls and ran more wrong routes this Sunday. Did you see how much action he got after changing his route, turning what was supposed to be a flag pattern into a post pattern? The only one he fooled was Romo and after that, Roy's day was done.

Who gives a flying what he says -- he is not playing sound football and until he does, his prima donna ways aren't going to fly. The Lions weren't bad in spite of him, they were bad in part because of him. No discipline, no toughness.

It looked like Romo made the wrong read on that one to me. There was no safety on Roy's side so the inside was open. It was not a flag route or a post route any way. It was a stop and go and on the go part Roy fought for the inside position, which was the correct thing to do with no safety over the top. They had a shot of Tony after that play and Tony's facial expression seemed to indicate that Roy got it right and Romo got it wrong.

 

[wileedog]

It looked like Romo made the wrong read on that one to me. There was no safety on Roy's side so the inside was open. It was not a flag route or a post route any way. It was a stop and go and on the go part Roy fought for the inside position, which was the correct thing to do with no safety over the top. They had a shot of Tony after that play and Tony's facial expression seemed to indicate that Roy got it right and Romo got it wrong.

I think it was a bit of both. Tony had to get rid of it quickly because of the rush, and I think Roy was heading to the outside when he released.

Roy made another cut to the inside though afterwords.

Just something that seems to happen with these two.

 

[Cover 2]

It looked like Romo made the wrong read on that one to me. There was no safety on Roy's side so the inside was open. It was not a flag route or a post route any way. It was a stop and go and on the go part Roy fought for the inside position, which was the correct thing to do with no safety over the top. They had a shot of Tony after that play and Tony's facial expression seemed to indicate that Roy got it right and Romo got it wrong.

Either that, or Romo was disappointed that Roy messed up again. I honestly have no idea who's fault it was, so I won't pretend like I know. But it wouldn't surprise me if Roy ran the wrong route. Romo was under a lot of pressure though when he threw it.

 

[cowboys2233]

It looked like Romo made the wrong read on that one to me. They had a shot of Tony after that play and Tony's facial expression seemed to indicate that Roy got it right and Romo got it wrong.

I saw it differently -- I saw a guy that was supposed to fake inside and turn the pattern towards the corner but checked his route off because a) the fake was so bad that the CB did not bite one bit and b) because Roy would prefer to take the path of least resistance which was to the inside because of the aforementioned godawful fake.

Yeah, I saw Romo's expression after the play but I chalk that up to Romo being a team player. He rarely shows open disgust for a teammate on the field, unlike some other quarterbacks and tried to show a level of understanding for Roy's complete ineptitude.

But the team's actions after that play tell you everything you need to know -- the only "shot" Roy got after that play was the camera shot of him standing on the sideline.

 

[adbutcher]

I saw it differently -- I saw a guy that was supposed to fake inside and turn the pattern towards the corner but checked his route off because a) the fake was so bad that the CB did not bite one bit and b) because Roy would prefer to take the path of least resistance which was to the inside because of the aforementioned godawful fake.

Yeah, I saw Romo's expression after the play but I chalk that up to Romo being a team player. He rarely shows open disgust for a teammate on the field, unlike some other quarterbacks and tried to show a level of understanding for Roy's complete ineptitude.

But the team's actions after that play tell you everything you need to know -- the only "shot" Roy got after that play was the camera shot of him standing on the sideline.

You saw all of that? You should be a WR coach.

 

[BAT]

I would like to see some 3 WR sets w/both Roy and Ogletree on the outside and Austin in the slot. I can only imagine the attention Austin will get when he runs one of those Crayton crossing patterns. Witten & Felix should have more than ample room to catch and run underneath.

 

[Hostile]

Please. That play was all Romo -- Brown would have bitten regardless of who was there, be it Roy, Crayton, or even John Phillips, because that's what Eagles DBs do, they anticipate and jump routes, looking for the big pick six.

Unfortunately for them, Romo has been there and done that and he gives the most amazing shoulder and pump fakes in the game today.

Roy dropped more balls and ran more wrong routes this Sunday. Did you see how much action he got after changing his route, turning what was supposed to be a flag pattern into a post pattern? The only one he fooled was Romo and after that, Roy's day was done.

Who gives a flying what he says -- he is not playing sound football and until he does, his prima donna ways aren't going to fly. The Lions weren't bad in spite of him, they were bad in part because of him. No discipline, no toughness.

That play was the OL, Crayton, Romo, Williams and all guys on Offense. I swear people do not understand it takes all 11 guys every play.

 

[Hostile]

No, it was the safety's fault, who was Mikell I believe. They reviewed the whole play on NFL Network. When Crayton motioned out wide, that safety was supposed to cover deep left, but Mikell stayed in the middle. When Romo saw that, he knew what he was going to do before the ball was even snapped. It was a great playcall by Garrett, and a dumb play by the safety to not follow over. It was a lose-lose situation for Sheldon Brown.

I agree on a mistake by the Safety, he bit on someone coming into the middle of the field and left Brown on 2 guys. Yet you just said earlier that Brown was stupid to buy the play fake.

Which is it?

 

[adbutcher]

That play was the OL, Crayton, Romo, Williams and all guys on Offense. I swear people do not understand it takes all 11 guys every play.

Of course they don't else some on the nonsensical posts would be left in their holsters.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Great Attitude!

 

[Maikeru-sama]

This thread serves as evidence that some see things as Black or White, there can be no grey area, a Player either sucks or he doesn't.

Until Roy Williams starts hurting the team, he shouldn't be benched this Season.

 

[BruceWayne]

I think he breaks out Saturday. Keep pushing #11

 

[Verdict]

For weeks I have tried to avoid threads about Roy even though I would love to speak my mind. This time I am. You cannot put a price on a team first player. He is respected by the entire team even if the fans and media don't. His QB loves him (I do think he lacks some confidence in him and it is Roy's fault and he acknowledges it). On Crayton's TD he played a role of drawing the defender out of the Zone. He blocks. I am sorry to all of hsi many detractors, but these things matter. He contributes to our wins. I would love to see the stats too, but I want the wins.

Hey Hos. I always respect your insight and posts. When the subject of Roy Williams comes up, it seems to be a pretty polarizing issue on this board. It seems as though most posters see no middle ground. Your post is mostly factual. It just speaks the facts. I also think it accurately reflects the facts. You have to respect someone who speaks the truth, whether it favors their own personal opinions or not.

I am still in "wait and see" mode on Roy. Last year was not a fair sample size to judge Roy Williams on. At the conclusion of this year, we should have a better idea of what we received in the RW trade and develop at least some sense of whether it was a good trade or not and whether he is worth what we are paying him.

So far, he has been good, but not great. I do not currently think he was worth what we gave up to get him (in picks or salary), but that doesn't mean that my opinion can't change. Roy Williams might not make a single catch between now and the Super Bowl, and only make one catch in that game, but it might be "The Catch" that wins the Super Bowl, in which case, everyone, including me would be saying how he was worth every penny we are paying him. You just never know. So history will jusdge Roy Williams with clarity. Right now, everything is just conjecture, really.

While I think that we gave up too much to get Roy, and don't believe that his stats and performance warrant what we are paying him, I will readily concede that if T.O. was in Roy's shoes, there would be a meltdown, crash and burn of monumental proportions going on right now and I have no doubt it would be a major distraction to the team. So, if our criterion for judging the RW trade is having T.O, here or Roy Williams here, I'll take Roy and all his drops every day. There is no comparison.

I HOPE RW rebounds and finishes up the year strong. He may be more valuable than I understand currently, as maybe he is keeping defenses honest. That is a little bit above my football IQ to be quite honest.

On the other hand, to allow Roy Willams a "free pass" because the rest of the team is hot right now and it is not as critical for him to be "The Man" is letting him off a little bit light. He is being paid to be the #1. He isn't performing like we expect a #1 to perform. Thats not saying he can't or wont. I just don't think he has SO FAR.

Austin will demand and get #1 receiver money. It will happen soon. You can't pay everyone. Some hard decisions will have to be made. Roy's salary may dictate that he stays another year, but I would rather his PLAY dictate that he remain here for an extended stay.

To clarify, Hos, I agree with your premise, but I'd sure like to see us getting more value in terms of play from a guy we are paying #1 money to. I know it doesn't really matter as long as we win, but that is really a different issue isn't it? (No sarcasm intended).

 

[dcfanatic]

We all want Roy to succeed.

We all want him to contribute and help the Cowboys win games.

We all want the Cowboys offense to keep finding ways to be successful by using the other weapons.

We all think Roy always says the right things and he's far from acting anything like Terrell Owens.

But.

The facts are what they are.

He's being paid more than Austin, Crayton, Hurd and Ogltree combined.

He's been saying all the right things about his performance not being what it should be for a year and half now.

He's been on the wrong page with Romo since day one and nothing has changed.

So while we all want the right things and Roy says all the right things the only way this situation is going to work for everyone where there aren't complaint threads anymore is for the results to finally start appearing.

The Cowboys can't possibly go into the 2010 season with the current parameters in place. Roy can't and won't be the highest paid WR on this team. Miles Austin has doubled his totals. Crayton has just about equaled his totals. And Kevin Ogletree has shown flashes that he's just as capable of doing the same things Roy does when the lights come on.

This whole situation is the most blatant case of 'it is what it is' and something has to give moving forward.

For now whatever. Get thru the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. I could care less if Roy has 0 catches for here on out or if he 35 catches. Now isn't the time to start discussing what to do with him.

Right now it's time to keep the attention on the guys who are producing and getting them the football.

 

[cowboys2233]

That play was the OL, Crayton, Romo, Williams and all guys on Offense. I swear people do not understand it takes all 11 guys every play.

I'm just saying it had nothing to do with Roy "selling" that route, it was simply an open spot that was there because it was a great call at the right time. Anyone could have filled the "Roy Williams" spot on that play -- it was all Garrett's playcalling and Romo's ability to carry out an amazing shoulder fake.

But yes, Brown jumped because Romo could have easily thrown to Roy on that play, he was certainly a viable receiver. Brown jumped, Romo saw it, Romo threw over him. And made it look easy.

 

[adbutcher]

This thread serves as evidence that some see things as Black or White, there can be no grey area, a Player either sucks or he doesn't.

Until Roy Williams starts hurting the team, he shouldn't be benched this Season.

Which make some seem so foolish when they post because football is such a nuanced sport. The level of strategies between players, schemes, and coaching is mind boggling.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

We all want Roy to succeed.

We all want him to contribute and help the Cowboys win games.

We all want the Cowboys offense to keep finding ways to be successful by using the other weapons.

We all think Roy always says the right things and he's far from acting anything like Terrell Owens.

But.

The facts are what they are.

He's being paid more than Austin, Crayton, Hurd and Ogltree combined.

He's been saying all the right things about his performance not being what it should be for a year and half now.

He's been on the wrong page with Romo since day one and nothing has changed.

So while we all want the right things and Roy says all the right things the only way this situation is going to work for everyone where there aren't complaint threads anymore is for the results to finally start appearing.

The Cowboys can't possibly go into the 2010 season with the current parameters in place. Roy can't and won't be the highest paid WR on this team. Miles Austin has doubled his totals. Crayton has just about equaled his totals. And Kevin Ogletree has shown flashes that he's just as capable of doing the same things Roy does when the lights come on.

This whole situation is the most blatant case of 'it is what it is' and something has to give moving forward.

For now whatever. Get thru the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. I could care less if Roy has 0 catches for here on out or if he 35 catches. Now isn't the time to start discussing what to do with him.

Right now it's time to keep the attention on the guys who are producing and getting them the football.

This really is the bottom line.

It would be foolish for Wade Phillips to try to address this issue in the middle of a Super Bowl Run.

After he hoists the Lombardi and gets that fat contract, he will have plenty of time to worry about Roy Williams.

 

[superpunk]

Attack?

 

[adbutcher]

This really is the bottom line.

It would be foolish for Wade Phillips to try to address this issue in the middle of a Super Bowl Run.

After he hoists the Lombardi and gets that fat contract, he will have plenty of time to worry about Roy Williams.

Nutshell.